sooth_stander Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 8 hours ago, Tord31 said: Anderson stays by default. Loan him out in August if we get the strikers we want. The rest should really all be moved on. McGinn if he is now on Ross County / Hamilton wages for his other offers then it might be interesting for us to make that offer. Everyone else GOODBYE Why would you loan Anderson out? He’s 21/22, he’s either good enough to be in our squad, or he should be binned. I’d personally go with the latter but fuck giving him another contract and another loan period. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, sooth_stander said: Why would you loan Anderson out? He’s 21/22, he’s either good enough to be in our squad, or he should be binned. I’d personally go with the latter but fuck giving him another contract and another loan period. 23 in September. Loaning him out for another year would make him almost 24 by the time he comes back. How old is he going to be before he is deemed ready? All indications are that he's going to miss the boat here. I think it's best for both parties to start afresh as there will be expectation here for bigger names up front after this year's attacking shit show (failed to score in 15 league games!!) Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Did Virtonen get a new contract? If not, him and Ethan Ross are tatties, if they are not getting game time during this evaluation period. Not sure how long a contract we gave Mark Gallagher but would suggest he find a new club too. We’re going to be stuck with Hayes, McGeough, Kennedy, maybe even Ojo, cos of the dough they will be on. People talk about the days of Eddie Turnbull and his axe but the manager had all the power in them days. Cheers, Derek Link to comment
Sheepo Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 40 minutes ago, sooth_stander said: Did Virtonen get a new contract? If not, him and Ethan Ross are tatties, if they are not getting game time during this evaluation period. Not sure how long a contract we gave Mark Gallagher but would suggest he find a new club too. We’re going to be stuck with Hayes, McGeough, Kennedy, maybe even Ojo, cos of the dough they will be on. People talk about the days of Eddie Turnbull and his axe but the manager had all the power in them days. Cheers, Derek Virtonen got another year bizarrely and has been injured ever since Link to comment
Tord31 Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 3 hours ago, sooth_stander said: Why would you loan Anderson out? He’s 21/22, he’s either good enough to be in our squad, or he should be binned. I’d personally go with the latter but fuck giving him another contract and another loan period. 1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said: 23 in September. Loaning him out for another year would make him almost 24 by the time he comes back. How old is he going to be before he is deemed ready? All indications are that he's going to miss the boat here. I think it's best for both parties to start afresh as there will be expectation here for bigger names up front after this year's attacking shit show (failed to score in 15 league games!!) Anderson gets a contract by default. The best scenario is a club wants to sign him for a nominal transfer fee but he needs the contract on the table so we can protect that position. The arguement to sign him (and loan him out in August) is 1) to protect that potential nominal transfer fee and 2) cover a place in the squad as it may be 2 to 3 months until we have our 3 strikers all in place. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Tord31 said: Anderson gets a contract by default. The best scenario is a club wants to sign him for a nominal transfer fee but he needs the contract on the table so we can protect that position. The arguement to sign him (and loan him out in August) is 1) to protect that potential nominal transfer fee and 2) cover a place in the squad as it may be 2 to 3 months until we have our 3 strikers all in place. Yeah that's fair enough. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Tord31 said: Anderson gets a contract by default. The best scenario is a club wants to sign him for a nominal transfer fee but he needs the contract on the table so we can protect that position. The arguement to sign him (and loan him out in August) is 1) to protect that potential nominal transfer fee and 2) cover a place in the squad as it may be 2 to 3 months until we have our 3 strikers all in place. 1) If he's 23 in September, there will be no development fee applicable for him next summer. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 6 hours ago, Sheepo said: Virtonen got another year bizarrely and has been injured ever since Strange one that. A defensive midfielder is the “day job” and we have enough of them. He’ll be loaned out again so seems a pointless re-signing really. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, afc1903mad said: 1) If he's 23 in September, there will be no development fee applicable for him next summer. No goals in his last 10 games for Accies. There won’t be a queue of clubs willing to pay £200k. We’ll re-sign him & he’ll probably leave next summer. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Retard claiming ( in the same story as the reported Sunderland interest in McCrorie) that Hoban has been told on Sunday that he is surplus to requirements Link to comment
DelMonte Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Thank fuck Hoban has been punted. Link to comment
RUL Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Just now, Millertime said: Agreed, but quite the turnaround When he first played it looked like a coup! We played to his strengths and he got a rest, as we were concerned about him getting injured. He looks totally uncomfortable now and he's probably knackered with all the football he's been playing. Link to comment
RUL Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Millertime said: Can it be as simple as that, just needing a break? Surely if that's the case we would just rest him every few games! Who would we have played instead? Link to comment
ABERDEENROWIE1903 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, Millertime said: Agreed, but quite the turnaround When he first played it looked like a coup! I liked him but this season he seemed to lost his confidence Very strange how things pan out, agree very impressed when he turned up Good luck to him decent guy Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Any ideas when the club will make a formal announcement on the out of contract players? Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 42 minutes ago, Millertime said: Agreed, but quite the turnaround When he first played it looked like a coup! Went from a coup to a coo. Link to comment
Granite95 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 41 minutes ago, Sonoftherock said: Any ideas when the club will make a formal announcement on the out of contract players? The 18/19 season we annouced it about a week after the last game of the season. I reckon we'll know within a week or so Link to comment
Tord31 Posted May 17, 2021 Author Share Posted May 17, 2021 No glory taken at all but I started the Hoban out campaign months ago. 1 Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 I think he looked decent with McKenna next to him, possibly got confidence as he was there. Then Scott left and the pressure was on him, with the injuries he then started to have to play every game and he crumbled big style! Going to be an issue for any club going forward who gives him a contract, I would suggest he’s waiting for Dels next gig Link to comment
Guest Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Millertime said: Can it be as simple as that, just needing a break? Surely if that's the case we would just rest him every few games! I always laugh when I hear folk say or write, a player is burnt out, played too much, needs a break. You see these guys in the cycling Tours complaining? You know how much energy gets expended not just on a 3 week lap of France, but all the training and prep that goes into it? Marathon/Ultra Marathon runners, out training all the time... the list of pro-sportsmen and woman goes on and on. Our lot - train for what, 4 mornings a week and then on average one game of 90 mins on a weekend? I could understand if we were talking about guys in their 40's or 50's, but mid to late 20's or whatever Hoban is? Come on... give me a break. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tinyweelad said: I always laugh when I hear folk say or write, a player is burnt out, played too much, needs a break. You see these guys in the cycling Tours complaining? You know how much energy gets expended not just on a 3 week lap of France, but all the training and prep that goes into it? Marathon/Ultra Marathon runners, out training all the time... the list of pro-sportsmen and woman goes on and on. Our lot - train for what, 4 mornings a week and then on average one game of 90 mins on a weekend? I could understand if we were talking about guys in their 40's or 50's, but mid to late 20's or whatever Hoban is? Come on... give me a break. But guys cycling aren't getting their shins booted/toes stamped on etc Might only cause a bit of bruising but takes it's toll when you can't get rested for a game or two every now and again. Not to mention the problems he's had with his knees. Hopefully he gets himself fixed up with a team in the EFL but I wouldn't be at all surprised if his next stop is non-league football Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 4th best defensive record in the league. So for all we slate Taylor, Considine and Hoban - that really was the least of our worries. Just looking at the state of our 12 team league in Scotland.... 9 teams conceded more goals than they scored!!! Jesus Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said: 4th best defensive record in the league. So for all we slate Taylor, Considine and Hoban - that really was the least of our worries. Just looking at the state of our 12 team league in Scotland.... 9 teams conceded more goals than they scored!!! Jesus Back to the bad old days when two teams rack up massive point and goal differences and the rest are lucky if they have any sort of positive goal difference at all. It's what the sky viewers want apparently. Link to comment
Guest Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: But guys cycling aren't getting their shins booted/toes stamped on etc Might only cause a bit of bruising but takes it's toll when you can't get rested for a game or two every now and again. Not to mention the problems he's had with his knees. Hopefully he gets himself fixed up with a team in the EFL but I wouldn't be at all surprised if his next stop is non-league football Aye, I do know how football works.... you pick up injuries, but that is nothing to do with being tired from playing too much. Plenty players go through season after season and hardly miss any mins. Logan I think played a really high percentage of games. His knee was either fixed or it wasn't. You don't play chicken with these injuries (look at VVD as an example). Other sportsmen and woman pick up injuries - quite a lot of the time through training. Swimmers, runners, cyclists. You don't hear their fans saying.... christ, Chris Froome is blowing out of his arse - probably needs a day off tomorrow. Blowing out of his arse as had a near career ending injury and lacked the prep to compete at the highest level. Our lot are playing at a level way below those at elite level. You see the amount of running/miles the likes of Bayern, Man City, Barca do during a game - they are miles fitter than our lads. I think that much was alluded to by Anderson and co and hopefully something Glass recognised early doors if you are to playing a high tempo, high press game. Like others, I saw a player in Hoban but he was at right back when he joined and I don't think he has the composure to handle the pressure of being a centre back. Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Back to the bad old days when two teams rack up massive point and goal differences and the rest are lucky if they have any sort of positive goal difference at all. It's what the sky viewers want apparently. Its really deflating isn't it. Crowds were up at all grounds. You could see the other clubs could not only survive by only playing one set of games against "them", but thrive. A bigger league would make Scottish football so much better overall in the long term. But they are too thick to see that picture and just focus on the 2 sides constantly playing each other, while the overall quality of the league (including them) gets worse every decade Link to comment
GeorgeStreetReds Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 When do player contracts run out? is it June 1st? So should be some announcements very soon. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said: Its really deflating isn't it. Crowds were up at all grounds. You could see the other clubs could not only survive by only playing one set of games against "them", but thrive. A bigger league would make Scottish football so much better overall in the long term. But they are too thick to see that picture and just focus on the 2 sides constantly playing each other, while the overall quality of the league (including them) gets worse every decade Aye. We should really be playing each other twice. They should just create a two legged Glasgow Cup final and throw that in as part of the deal if they really need 4 games against each other Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, GeorgeStreetReds said: When do player contracts run out? is it June 1st? So should be some announcements very soon. A lot of them are 30th June.....they're entitled to a shitload of paid annual leave making up for playing theoretically continually from the start of August until mid May Link to comment
NEM Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Aye. We should really be playing each other twice. They should just create a two legged Glasgow Cup final and throw that in as part of the deal if they really need 4 games against each other Better still resign from the league en mass and leave them to play each other 38 times a season Link to comment
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