DD1903 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Tord31 said: Robinson on a free then. Some dandies would happily take him now. Yeah. We best swoop in now so as not to miss out! Link to comment
Tord31 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 20 minutes ago, DD1903 said: Yeah. We best swoop in now so as not to miss out! Swoop Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Aye he did a good job there. Knew when his time was up as well. He'll get another gig Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, Grays Babylon 1875 said: I'm happy not to give a fuck.... Happy New Year... Happy new year to you when it comes as well. When did Hibs last finish in the top 4? Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: Happy new year to you when it comes as well. When did Hibs last finish in the top 4? The year we pipped the Huns for second? When they had McGeouch, Allan and McGinn in midfield Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: The year we pipped the Huns for second? When they had McGeouch, Allan and McGinn in midfield Not as far back as I thought then. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 17 minutes ago, Millertime said: Robinson presided over them going debt free and developed some brilliant players, finished 3rd and got into Europe Fair play to him 10 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Aye he did a good job there. Knew when his time was up as well. He'll get another gig really, when you look at his record, how good is it? 7th 8th 3rd (curtailed season and form had already gone out the window) 10th (currently) Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, afc1903mad said: really, when you look at his record, how good is it? 7th 8th 3rd (curtailed season and form had already gone out the window) 10th (currently) Aye but he had to change his team constantly. And managed to bring through good youngsters at the same time. I think it was a decent effort. Certainly gave us plenty of problems as well. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Aye but he had to change his team constantly. And managed to bring through good youngsters at the same time. I think it was a decent effort. Certainly gave us plenty of problems as well. I don’t doubt he did a decent job over the period for Motherwell, but is it enough to warrant significant praise. ‘He would have been lucky with the timing of the youngsters (Campbell, Turner, who else). ‘He did not have a great record at Oldham and the true test would have been to see if he could have turned round Motherwell. The form of the last year puts that in question Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: I don’t doubt he did a decent job over the period for Motherwell, but is it enough to warrant significant praise. ‘He would have been lucky with the timing of the youngsters (Campbell, Turner, who else). ‘He did not have a great record at Oldham and the true test would have been to see if he could have turned round Motherwell. The form of the last year puts that in question Lucky or not he gave the youngsters their chance and he deserves the credit for that. Made them a decent amount of cash too, Turnbull in particular. I'm not recommending him for the Aberdeen job BTW. But he'd get another spl job no problem at all. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, aberdeen1970 said: Lucky or not he gave the youngsters their chance and he deserves the credit for that. Made them a decent amount of cash too, Turnbull in particular. I'm not recommending him for the Aberdeen job BTW. But he'd get another spl job no problem at all. Playing youngsters would have been imposed on him. ‘when Motherwell went into fan ownership (before Robinsons time), the previous owners had already invested interest free loans to be repaid on player sales. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, afc1903mad said: Playing youngsters would have been imposed on him. ‘when Motherwell went into fan ownership (before Robinsons time), the previous owners had already invested interest free loans to be repaid on player sales. Yeah but he still managed to get a tune out of the youngsters. I get it. You don't think he deserves any credit. Let's agree to disagree. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, aberdeen1970 said: Yeah but he still managed to get a tune out of the youngsters. I get it. You don't think he deserves any credit. Let's agree to disagree. I already said he did an ok job, but nothing to warrant the praise that he gets. looking at the cold facts, it looks like he was extremely fortunate in timing and has not shown he can turn around a team Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 39 minutes ago, Millertime said: Robinson presided over them going debt free and developed some brilliant players, finished 3rd and got into Europe Fair play to him You said that last season didn't count. Unable to keep up with your own lies you thick hun cunt. 1 Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, afc1903mad said: I already said he did an ok job, but nothing to warrant the praise that he gets. looking at the cold facts, it looks like he was extremely fortunate in timing and has not shown he can turn around a team Maybe some people just have a different view of what success looks like for a Motherwell manager. I think bringing through youngsters and selling them for a profit and picking up good signings on a free from down south while maintaining a mid table position for the most part is a decent job for that club. Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 35 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Aye he did a good job there. Knew when his time was up as well. He'll get another gig That (and 17k a week) is the difference between him and McInnes. Link to comment
frankie_mac's_4 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Aye but he had to change his team constantly. And managed to bring through good youngsters at the same time. I think it was a decent effort. Certainly gave us plenty of problems as well. Misplaced praise this I always think - 1st team managers getting credit for young players breaking through. The vast majority of credit goes to youth scouts and coaches getting them to that standard. Credit to 1st team managers who don't completely fuck up young players careers, but most of the credit goes to the scouting and coaching before they're at senior level. Equal credit to the boys for putting in the graft, their parents and a huge slice of luck in how things pan oot. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, frankie_mac's_4 said: Misplaced praise this I always think - 1st team managers getting credit for young players breaking through. The vast majority of credit goes to youth scouts and coaches getting them to that standard. Credit to 1st team managers who don't completely fuck up young players careers, but most of the credit goes to the scouting and coaching before they're at senior level. Equal credit to the boys for putting in the graft, their parents and a huge slice of luck in how things pan oot. True. But the manager should also get a share of the credit for establishing them as first team players. Link to comment
Ernie McCracken Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, perthshirered said: Im not entirely sure where this Hibs myth comes from. They have largely been a joke team for the entirety of my life and during the same period they have been left trailing in the wake of the likes of St Johnstone on a frequent basis. They are simply a more cosmopolitan version of Motherwell or Hamilton. Yet they've been more successful than us this century. Link to comment
Andy_123 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 5 hours ago, For Fecks Sake said: And the fact the other 2 teams above us each pay north of £50m a year in players wages resulting in, on average, a better standard and quality of player than us but let's not bring facts into the argument eh lads. As always the same weak argument regularly seen from any McInnes fanboy. ”Celtic and Rangers have more money so we’ll never catch them.” ”Well Aberdeen have more money than everyone else in the league, so why can the other teams catch us?” ”Errr...McInnes won a cup once 7 years ago... who could do better... remember McGhee etc etc.” Loser mentality Link to comment
NEM Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 17 minutes ago, Ernie McCracken said: Yet they've been more successful than us this century. Depends how you measure it really. Aye they've won one more cup than us but they've been relegated about 3 times and mostly finished well below us in the league. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, NEM said: Depends how you measure it really. Aye they've won one more cup than us but they've been relegated about 3 times and mostly finished well below us in the league. You make a good point and I agree, but many would take 20 years of poor league placing and relegations to win the Scottish Cup. They had a very fortunate run back in 2006 as well and even their 2016 cup win over NewCo had a lot of luck along the way Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 29 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: I already said he did an ok job, but nothing to warrant the praise that he gets. looking at the cold facts, it looks like he was extremely fortunate in timing and has not shown he can turn around a team Same could be said of McInnes Boring as he was, Craig Brown built the foundations for McInnes & then the jammy cunt sailed into the fortunate timing of Huns (big & little) Utd & even Hibs massive capitulations & even death. Which was basically foreplay for the McInnes wankfest The modern day Aberdeen fans equivalent of a 12 year old boy discovering pornhub Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: Same could be said of McInnes Once again you’re talking Bollox. Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said: Aye he did a good job there. Knew when his time was up as well. He'll get another gig Anyone starting to see a pattern here? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: Once again you’re talking Bollox. No I’m not. McInnes was extremely fortunate in the timing of managing at the highest level he ever will now. He couldn’t fail to keep a club like Aberdeen in& around the top of the table given the complete lack of any kind of decent & sustained competition. The good fortune has seen his budget increases year in year (before COVID but still more than most) yet he’s failed to be any kind of stand out since the level of competition has improved (slightly) Mcinnes is given for more praise then he’s earned by a lot of fans that basically accept his negativity & ignorance of how EASY a time he’s had of it in his tenure. Boys a charlatan. 1 1 Link to comment
Torry Tosser Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Derek Adams for Motherwell maybe? Would surely see them as a step up from Morecambe & was popular there as a player. And what a job he doing at Morecambe...They only get about 1500 in there when allowed. No budget,where are they 5th four points off top and game in hand.Did a good job at Plymouth as well. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Torry Tosser said: And what a job he doing at Morecambe...They only get about 1500 in there when allowed. No budget,where are they 5th four points off top and game in hand.Did a good job at Plymouth as well. As much as he’s a bit of a knob, he does have a good track record. Link to comment
Ramandu Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: No I’m not. McInnes was extremely fortunate in the timing of managing at the highest level he ever will now. He couldn’t fail to keep a club like Aberdeen in& around the top of the table given the complete lack of any kind of decent & sustained competition. The good fortune has seen his budget increases year in year (before COVID but still more than most) yet he’s failed to be any kind of stand out since the level of competition has improved (slightly) Mcinnes is given for more praise then he’s earned by a lot of fans that basically accept his negativity & ignorance of how EASY a time he’s had of it in his tenure. Boys a charlatan. Pretty much every manager in my lifetime has failed to do just that. 2 1 Link to comment
Matt Armstrong's Dog Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: No I’m not. McInnes was extremely fortunate in the timing of managing at the highest level he ever will now. He couldn’t fail to keep a club like Aberdeen in& around the top of the table given the complete lack of any kind of decent & sustained competition. The good fortune has seen his budget increases year in year (before COVID but still more than most) yet he’s failed to be any kind of stand out since the level of competition has improved (slightly) Mcinnes is given for more praise then he’s earned by a lot of fans that basically accept his negativity & ignorance of how EASY a time he’s had of it in his tenure. Boys a charlatan. Bide aff the recreational doobs min. What a load of horse manure. Derek McInnes's tenure in relation to the results and performances of the likes of Alex Miller, Steve Paterson, and Mark McGhee et al. is night and day. 2 1 Link to comment
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