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Scottish Independence Referendum 2


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  1. 1. Should Scotland be an independent country?

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5 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

 

About 20 years ago when the internet was still young, me and a mate found this site and clicked on "man in bra and panties". It was not a breach of the trades description regulations, there was this guy dressed thus, he started playing with himself gently and was getting worked up. He was talking to us (presumably thinking there was only one voyeur - he had a mic, we had only a keyboard) and then was asking what I wanted him to do. My mate typed "stick a finger up yer arse" and when he reached round and started pumping, we fucking lost it and laffed our heads off so much we were incapable of any further interaction. I was literally ROTFLMAO. That was an eye-opener, that cunts do it for free.

You should've clicked on 'woman in bra and panties'. instead. 

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1 hour ago, For Fecks Sake said:

Alex Salmond starting to play his hand....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-55593864

This is going to get interesting.

It very much looks to me like he's been screwed over. Sturgeon has been caught in a lie & so has her husband. 

I doubt we'll ever see Salmond back in politics though, no matter how much he clears his name. Mud sticks and his reputation will never recover unfortunately. 

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26 minutes ago, Parklife said:

It very much looks to me like he's been screwed over. Sturgeon has been caught in a lie & so has her husband. 

I doubt we'll ever see Salmond back in politics though, no matter how much he clears his name. Mud sticks and his reputation will never recover unfortunately. 

Its very clear they tried to fuck him ("returning the favour" - BOOM BOOM! </basil brush>).  Feminista Sturgeon will always stick by her gal pals ("truth" is not even a thing for these Godless pigs).  As will other public sector plebs who owe their prominence and 6-figure salaries to Sturgeon's favour, their feminist credentials and the lies and schemes which forever bind them.

Its been really sinister, this from a politician of a party with a tendency toward authoritarianism.

Although I am a Unionist, I have always liked Alex Salmond - a capable politician, good orator, good leader, seemed a decent / likeable guy etc.  (Of course, I'd still see him dead in a ditch, the separatist cunt).

Sturgeon is great at PR, but she couldn't lick his shoes when it comes to the substance of being a politician.

Given his talent, I would be very glad to see him not return to separatist politics, however - given he was vindicated by a court, and we know sturgeon is a lying cow - I don't agree that he could not return if he wanted.  If he choses not to, it will be because he fears splitting the separatist vote (a unionist when it suits him), though hopefully others will*. 

(*surely we are long due a public resurgence from the bourgeois bolshevik, the protesting proletarian, the champagne socialist shagger, Tommy Sheridan?  NB Sheridan came back after various scandals, inc sexual ones)

Homosexual predator Derek MacKay (Sturgeons mate, whom she protected for his financial benefit, at our cost) - now there's a man who could never return to politics.  The nae richter.

This bitter SNP in-fighting is brilliant, I hope it rumbles on right into election time (postponed or not).  We unionists will sit back and ponder our strategy, depending upon whom wins. 

Divide and conquer - that's the British way ?

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16 minutes ago, Parklife said:

It very much looks to me like he's been screwed over. Sturgeon has been caught in a lie & so has her husband. 

I doubt we'll ever see Salmond back in politics though, no matter how much he clears his name. Mud sticks and his reputation will never recover unfortunately. 

Mud sticks, true. Same goes for Sturgeon, I think this'll end her career.

If she's complicit in a smear campaign she's fucked. If she's playing the no knowledge of events angle she'll be labelled as not in control if the party. I don't swallow the no know knowledge angle for one second.

Its open war in the SNP now either way.

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4 minutes ago, frankie_mac's_4 said:

Mud sticks, true. Same goes for Sturgeon, I think this'll end her career.

I agree there is a decent chance of that, though she will hang on to the bitter end.

It will be a perfect opportunity for humourless cunt Humza Yousef, or sinister nancy-boy Alyn Smith, to take the reigns and completely alienate the public for many generations.

Back of the net!

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Just as many of us were saying for some time, the FM and her slimeball husband of convenience are up to their neck in this. I tend not to believe she's a sleeper agent, more a career politician who was corrupted by power and greed. 

What I will say as well though, is that she's the most despicable kind of hypocrite, not least in her virtue signalling against Americans who "don't respect democracy", while she squandered 3 and a half years trying to keep England and Wales in the EU against their will... then piped down with barely a whimper as Scotland was indeed "dragged out against its will". Her tough talk amounted to fuck all other than "pretty please Mr. Johnson, can we have a Section 30 order?" and winking at the happy clappers "please plebs, can we have some more (mandates)?"

I also feel for the genuine victims of sexual assault who find it harder to be taken seriously, because of cowards and despicable liars who perpetuate false accusations. It's even more despicable when such perpetrators call themselves "feminists", when in fact they set women back years.

If they have any dignity or integrity left, the Poundshop Ceaucescus will fuck off now.

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Look at the alternative in Scotland:

In the Blue corner, the thick as fuck linesman.

In the red corner, the guffy moaning cunt Leonard.

In the yellow corner, Willie “Mummy’s Boy” Rennie.

 

Is that the best of the Unionists? Fucking hell, those cunts are unelectable. SNP and Sturgeon will be in power a while yet lads.

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59 minutes ago, caledonia said:

Salmond was stitched up and there is a lot more to come out of this but unfortunately injunctions etc are stopping things at this point.

How sick do you have to be to try and stitch up someone for rape 

Are you implying Sturgeon is behind, or at least a player, in attempting to stitch Salmond up?

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7 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

Salmond should have been happy about the favourable ruling in his favour and just slope off. He's not doing his dreams of Independence any good now (assuming they are genuine)

I think he still harbours dreams of being the first First Minister (or whatever they choose to call it in the event we do get independence). But he knows he has to ensure that Sturgeon is totally out of the picture before he can even start to think of making another run for the SNP leadership.

Sturgeon's idiot husband has presented Salmond with a half open goal and it looks like Sturgeon has possibly widened it by lying to back her husband in an act of severely misguided solidarity. If she has, there's no doubt she has to resign and not just the leadership, but also her seat as an MSP.  Career over and job done for Salmond.

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31 minutes ago, Ohjimmyjimmy said:

Look at the alternative in Scotland:

In the Blue corner, the thick as fuck linesman.

In the red corner, the guffy moaning cunt Leonard.

In the yellow corner, Willie “Mummy’s Boy” Rennie.

 

Is that the best of the Unionists? Fucking hell, those cunts are unelectable. SNP and Sturgeon will be in power a while yet lads.

I've nae doubt SNP will be in power for a while Jimmy. Nae so sure aboot sturgeon being around though. The whole episode's a symptom of SNP internal strife. I suspect she's tied her own noose here.

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For those interested, the entire Salmond submission has been reproduced on Wings. Regardless of Rev Campbell's motives, the content from Salmond is damning and surely must be the end of the Sturrell Mafia now. 

For a more nuanced take on things, I highly recommend Grouse Beater's blog entries.

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Where things end up in the Sturgeon and Salmond saga is still unclear, but at this point it is absolutely clear that one of them is lying. There is simply no two ways about it. Given the balance of probabilities, I'd say it's Sturgeon and/or Murrell, given they have obstructed the enquiry until now and have been proven to have lied and mislead.

I just don't see how Sturgeon or Murrell can survive this, though I have suggested she may survive a vote of no confidence in parliament, due to farsighted unionist MSP's who see her as the 'safest' option for preserving the union.

It's just too bad the Alphabet Sisters are allowed to remain anonymous, even after the female-majority jury and female judge (in Scotland's most unionist city, no less) threw out their accusations and the evidence showed they were lying and in some cases weren't even present at Bute House on the days in question.

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On 1/5/2021 at 1:33 AM, Clydeside_Sheep said:

Check out this article by Jill Stephenson,

LOL

She in an alcohol addled fruit loop with all the intellectual authority of a deceased toad freshly run over by an 18 wheeler.

 

On 1/5/2021 at 6:35 AM, maryhilldon said:

Fucking pathetic to argue we couldn't thrive on our own

Anyone that argues against this is clearly fucking retarded.

 

On 1/6/2021 at 1:28 PM, Redforever86 said:

Fuck knows. 

If the bird hasn't done the sensible thing and binned me she could probably get a decent job and entry for us into plenty places.

I quite fancy Denmark, Canada, Portugal, Ireland, Spain, USA, Delft.

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Erz mi

 

23 hours ago, NEM said:

Lock her up ?

Correct answer.

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If Salmond came back into the fold, got rid of the boot and moved the SNP to the centre (and ditched the far left woke nonsense) I’d be far more inclined to vote for the SNP and/or independence. 
 

Absolutely no chance under the fruit loops currently leading the charge 

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2 hours ago, rocket_scientist said:

It's ugly and it's going to get really hideous.

What is playing out could have been predicted. The closer we got to the prospect of independence, it was inevitable that dark forces would want to cause division and break the SNP.

Meanwhile in the patent world, the Tories (useless Eustace) have just approved the Neonicotinoid pesticides banned by the EU because they kill bees. I'm no ecologist or biologist but I know not to fuck with the bees.

As the boy says in Chewin the Fat, mon the bees ?  ?

If the bees die out humans won’t be far behind 

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