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10 hours ago, Tord31 said:

AFC do well to keep things under wraps. I see the local Nottingham press saying Forest have bid 3 - 4 transfer windows in a row.

On sports sound Craig Levein was claiming that Steve Bruce told him, first hand, he'd had a 6M bid turned down on the last day of the transfer window the other year, when he was at Aston Villa... 

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15 minutes ago, Sonoftherock said:

On sports sound Craig Levein was claiming that Steve Bruce told him, first hand, he'd had a 6M bid turned down on the last day of the transfer window the other year, when he was at Aston Villa... 

That was common knowledge was it not. It was a loan for 6 months as they couldn’t buy anyone then pay up in winter transfer window. If they put the bid in the week before aberdeen would of snapped their hand of but bid went in 6 or 12 hours before window shut so they said no thanks as they would of been left short in defence for 6 months 

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4 minutes ago, thurso said:

That was common knowledge was it not. It was a loan for 6 months as they couldn’t buy anyone then pay up in winter transfer window. If they put the bid in the week before aberdeen would of snapped their hand of but bid went in 6 or 12 hours before window shut so they said no thanks as they would of been left short in defence for 6 months 

I heard about the loan, with an option to buy, offer....  however, Craig Levein was intimating this was a straight up offer.  Said we rejected it as it arrived a couple of hours before the deadline and we didn't have a chance to source a replacement.  

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2 minutes ago, Sonoftherock said:

I heard about the loan, with an option to buy, offer....  however, Craig Levein was intimating this was a straight up offer.  Said we rejected it as it arrived a couple of hours before the deadline and we didn't have a chance to source a replacement.  

More likely it came hours before a big european match. All suitors were told days before this that if they wanted him get your bids in before we left for a big european game. No way McInness wouldn't have had even a short term loan deal lined up and ready to go.

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3 minutes ago, Tord31 said:

I think the loan thing about McKenna has been never cleared up but as I understood it it was a loan with an obligation to buy later as per our deal for McCrorie. The price was £6M the following season.

Loan for 6 months. Buy in the January. 

As others have said, it came in too late for us to organise a replacement

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1 minute ago, Ten Caat said:

Loan for 6 months. Buy in the January. 

As others have said, it came in too late for us to organise a replacement

That's an example of McInnes having too much say in the Boardroom. An offer like that should have been accepted without hesitation.

It's up to McInnes to sign a Jason Kerr, Cedric Kipre with 2 minutes notice or a free agent after the deadline

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1 minute ago, Chester Don said:

I would not at all be surprised if we don’t have a Middlesbrough, Stoke, villa or a Burnley, looking now the Forest bid is out there for all to see.  If Burnley let that Tacouwski lad (excuse the spelling) go then can see them sniffing.  Would love a Liam Lindsay plus cash our way deal?  Is he still at Stoke. 

Burnley are signing Joe Worrall......from Notts Forest. McKenna is his replacement

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1 hour ago, Tord31 said:

That's an example of McInnes having too much say in the Boardroom. An offer like that should have been accepted without hesitation.

It's up to McInnes to sign a Jason Kerr, Cedric Kipre with 2 minutes notice or a free agent after the deadline

Maybe I’m wrong but was it not they wanted to loan him first with an option (not an obligation) to buy?

I could be completely wrong but I seem to remember some club tried that? 

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2 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

Maybe I’m wrong but was it not they wanted to loan him first with an option (not an obligation) to buy?

I could be completely wrong but I seem to remember some club tried that? 

It's never been clarified.

A loan with an option to buy is not even worth anything. 

 

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4 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

Maybe I’m wrong but was it not they wanted to loan him first with an option (not an obligation) to buy?

I could be completely wrong but I seem to remember some club tried that? 

I'm sure I read it as 6.5 option to buy and not an obligation too. Essentially try him for 6 months and make up your mind then. It was rightly rejected at the time if it was a loan and not upfront.

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4 minutes ago, Durrant Dived said:

I'm sure I read it as 6.5 option to buy and not an obligation too. Essentially try him for 6 months and make up your mind then. It was rightly rejected at the time if it was a loan and not upfront.

This, plus it was relatively last minute meaning we were struggling for a replacement if memory serves.  Certainly don't remember it being anywhere near the no brainer category despite the headline figure.

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44 minutes ago, Durrant Dived said:

I'm sure I read it as 6.5 option to buy and not an obligation too. Essentially try him for 6 months and make up your mind then. It was rightly rejected at the time if it was a loan and not upfront.

Aye that’s what I thought.

The club were right to tell them to fuck off then, if there was no obligation.

And the bid (despite Aberdeen publicly saying not to) was made the day of the transfer deadline and whilst we were in Croatia 
 

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3 minutes ago, Durrant Dived said:

I'm sure I read it as 6.5 option to buy and not an obligation too. Essentially try him for 6 months and make up your mind then. It was rightly rejected at the time if it was a loan and not upfront.

Can’t see any club at all doing this with what is (was) their biggest asset at the time & as such I strongly doubt any club would have the audacity to attempt it in reality. Why would a club risk losing a valuable player with no guarantees & risk another club injuring him.

no chance it was a loan with ‘option’ it was simply a case that they weren’t allowed to pay up front & we couldn’t replace at such short notice

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12 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Can’t see any club at all doing this with what is (was) their biggest asset at the time & as such I strongly doubt any club would have the audacity to attempt it in reality. Why would a club risk losing a valuable player with no guarantees & risk another club injuring him.

no chance it was a loan with ‘option’ it was simply a case that they weren’t allowed to pay up front & we couldn’t replace at such short notice

That's the best guess and it has never been clarified. It suits AFC to leave the story out there as option to buy.

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Just now, Tord31 said:

That's the best guess and it has never been clarified. It suits AFC to leave the story out there as option to buy.

True but being logical about it. 
Do you really believe that was the offer?

Fair enough for a fringe player not in a club’s future plans in playing or asset value but for a clubs main asset?

No chance a club would be that ridiculous with an offer, they would be publicly ridiculed by ‘selling’ club & club would happily justify their reason for refusing the deal

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