Lets all laugh at Hearts

[BonnieDon]

10 hours ago, Durrant Dived said:

Just had a look and Hearts fans seem to think it's all about attendances or the last 25 years, conveniently when you are better than us for both. Aberdeen has a population of just over 200k whilst edinburgh is nearly at 500k, albeit with the 2 teams; the edinburgh sides are obviously going to attract more fans with an extra 50k each. If you look at it trophy wise it's pretty similar however 6 or so were before we were even formed. 

Edinburgh has a huge Rugby following and even holds the national Stadium for Rugby. Not everyone there follows football.

Look at the geographical location of the capital. Not too far from Glasgow, Dunfermline, Livingston etc. There is a huge OF following and a large Aberdeen fanbase in Edinburgh.

Hearts, Hibs, Dundee Utd etc along with most teams apart from the OF barely bring a travelling support to Pittodrie yet we have one of the biggest travelling supports in Scotland. Certainly larger then both Edinburgh sides. Edinburgh is considerably easier to commute to for most away supports however Aberdeen not so. That will certainly make a difference between the average attendances of Aberdeen and Hearts.

Remember for years Aberdeen only reported those in attendance whereas Hearts reported all tickets sold. Again it skews the average attendances.

There was 43k in attendance for the league cup final and the club even put in a request for 50k tickets due to demand which was ultimately rejected. When have either Edinburgh side done that. We have a much larger presence on social media then both our Edinburgh sides and sell (heres a fact for you) 20-30k replica shirts more then both Edinburgh sides every season. We sell more replica shirts then some EPL sides such as Burnley. Our club shop sells more merchandise then both Edinburgh sides too. All indicates we have at least as large a fanbase. 

Hearts were punished for spending way beyond their means. If they hadn't, they wouldn't have been relegated however they also wouldn't have won two Scottish cups the previous decade nor finished 2nd that one season.

Aberdeen are historically the 3rd most successful side in Scotland and have the 3rd highest annual turnover. We've never been relegated unlike 5 times Hearts. They'll always be in our shadow.

[NEM]

4 minutes ago, BonnieDon said:

Edinburgh has a huge Rugby following and even holds the national Stadium for Rugby. Not everyone there follows football.

Look at the geographical location of the capital. Not too far from Glasgow, Dunfermline, Livingston etc. There is a huge OF following and a large Aberdeen fanbase in Edinburgh.

Hearts, Hibs, Dundee Utd etc along with most teams apart from the OF barely bring a travelling support to Pittodrie yet we have one of the biggest travelling supports in Scotland. Certainly larger then both Edinburgh sides. Edinburgh is considerably easier to commute to for most away supports however Aberdeen not so. That will certainly make a difference between the average attendances of Aberdeen and Hearts.

Remember for years Aberdeen only reported those in attendance whereas Hearts reported all tickets sold. Again it skews the average attendances.

There was 43k in attendance for the league cup final and the club even put in a request for 50k tickets due to demand which was ultimately rejected. When have either Edinburgh side done that. We have a much larger presence on social media then both our Edinburgh sides and sell (heres a fact for you) 20-30k replica shirts more then both Edinburgh sides every season. We sell more replica shirts then some EPL sides such as Burnley. Our club shop sells more merchandise then both Edinburgh sides too. All indicates we have at least as large a fanbase. 

Hearts were punished for spending way beyond their means. If they hadn't, they wouldn't have been relegated however they also wouldn't have won two Scottish cups the previous decade nor finished 2nd that one season.

Aberdeen are historically the 3rd most successful side in Scotland and have the 3rd highest annual turnover. We've never been relegated unlike 5 times Hearts. They'll always be in our shadow.

Great post apart from the bit in bold which is pish.  They'd have went down anyway - it's what they do as evidenced last season when they had no point deduction or punishment.  A tinpot yo-yo outfit ?

[Shinniesta]

11 hours ago, Durrant Dived said:

Just had a look and Hearts fans seem to think it's all about attendances or the last 25 years, conveniently when you are better than us for both. Aberdeen has a population of just over 200k whilst edinburgh is nearly at 500k, albeit with the 2 teams; the edinburgh sides are obviously going to attract more fans with an extra 50k each. If you look at it trophy wise it's pretty similar however 6 or so were before we were even formed. 

I always find the "who is bigger" debates a bit pointless especially when discussing Scottish clubs. Let's be brutally honest here there are two huge clubs in the country the rest are massively in their shadow. An example of that would be Celtic winning 12 major domestic trophies in the last 4 years yet their fans were calling for their managers head after a few dodgy results a couple of months ago. By comparison Hearts have won 3 major trophies since 1962 so even if they are (as their fans claim) the third biggest club in the country what does it actually mean? It obviously means fuck all in Scottish football terms if being the 3rd biggest lands you 3 trophies in 60 years and no league championships in that time.
 

All I know is that Aberdeen have been far more successful than Hearts since I started watching football. I can remember Aberdeen winning 14 major trophies which is over double of Hearts and Hibs combined in the same period. Each of those clubs have had their ups and downs in that time and I accept that Aberdeen being the more success is not the case for much younger Aberdeen fans (although we've now finished above them in the league for 9 seasons in a row and have won a major trophy more recently) . But regardless Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs are so far behind the big Glasgow two it's frightening...the who is bigger debate is like 3 drunk guys fighting over the fattest ugliest bird in the pub while the two studs at the bar walk out with models on their arms pissing themselves at them as they breeze past.

But at least Aberdeen fans of around my age know what it's like to be the best team in the country and know what it feels like to win european trophies and league championships (back to back titles at that). Hearts fans will never experience that. Their biggest day in my time watching football was probably a cup final victory over Hibernian. Ours was winning a European final against the world's greatest and most successful ever club side in Real Madrid (a tournament in which Diego Maradona also played in that season for Barca). There is the big difference. We may or may not be bigger than Hearts like I said it's really a pointless debate in Scottish football terms. But their fans will NEVER experience the highs I have as a Dons fan or see them win at the level I have seen Aberdeen win at. Never. I'll take that all day long.

[NEM]

4 minutes ago, Shinniesta said:

I always find the "who is bigger" debates a bit pointless especially when discussing Scottish clubs. Let's be brutally honest here there are two huge clubs in the country the rest are massively in their shadow. An example of that would be Celtic winning 12 major domestic trophies in the last 4 years yet their fans were calling for their managers head after a few dodgy results a couple of months ago. By comparison Hearts have won 3 major trophies since 1962 so even if they are (as their fans claim) the third biggest club in the country what does it actually mean? It obviously means fuck all in Scottish football terms if being the 3rd biggest lands you 3 trophies in 60 years and no league championships in that time.
 

All I know is that Aberdeen have been far more successful than Hearts since I started watching football. I can remember Aberdeen winning 14 major trophies which is over double of Hearts and Hibs combined in the same period. Each of those clubs have had their ups and downs in that time and I accept that Aberdeen being the more success is not the case for much younger Aberdeen fans (although we've now finished above them in the league for 9 seasons in a row and have won a major trophy more recently) . But regardless Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs are so far behind the big Glasgow two it's frightening...the who is bigger debate is like 3 drunk guys fighting over the fattest ugliest bird in the pub while the two studs at the bar walk out with models on their arms pissing themselves at them as they breeze past.

But at least Aberdeen fans of around my age know what it's like to be the best team in the country and know what it feels like to win european trophies and league championships (back to back titles at that). Hearts fans will never experience that. Their biggest day in my time watching football was probably a cup final victory over Hibernian. Ours was winning a European final against the world's greatest and most successful ever club side in Real Madrid (a tournament in which Diego Maradona also played in that season for Barca). There is the big difference. We may or may not be bigger than Hearts like I said it's really a pointless debate in Scottish football terms. But their fans will NEVER experience the highs I have as a Dons fan or see them win at the level I have seen Aberdeen win at. Never. I'll take that all day long.

Well put.  Fuck hearts!

[aberdeen1970]

Why the fuck do Hearts have a thread on who is the third biggest team in Scotland when they're still trying to get out of the championship? 

My take on Hearts fans is that they are always getting ahead of themselves far too early. 

We're going to do this and we're going to do that after a couple of games or 5 minutes after their latest signing comes in. 

And just about every time it comes back to bite them on the arse. 

 

[donswin1983]

And Hearts have no decent celebrity fans, unlike the Dons...Joe Biden, Beyonce, Dolly Parton and Paul Lawrie being a few that spring to mind...

The Jambo forum should be considering whether they are a bigger club than Livingston, or at a push, Hibs. Not in the same league as AFC, literally..

[afc1903mad]

12 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Why the fuck do Hearts have a thread on who is the third biggest team in Scotland when they're still trying to get out of the championship? 

My take on Hearts fans is that they are always getting ahead of themselves far too early. 

We're going to do this and we're going to do that after a couple of games or 5 minutes after their latest signing comes in. 

And just about every time it comes back to bite them on the arse. 

 

Absolutely, nailed on the head.

You would have thought they would have learned by now.

Yes, they have potential, but in reality, they are a YoYo tinpot club

[Wester Hailes Skins]

2 hours ago, rocket_scientist said:

Complaining? I said I found it amusing. It was you Hearts fans who were going mental. I took the opportunity to stick some fuel on the fire given the footballer in question, one of the most despicable humans ever to play for the most despicable clubs. Many people on this planet are losers and/ or fucking idiots. That proportion increases dramatically for folk who pay to watch fitba every week. Given that fact, I was surprised that McCoist made it so personal, targeting a few of the frothing jam tarts personally and fixing eye contact on 3 or 4 of them. We were less than 10 yards from each other through the fence. I was fishing to see if you'd heard of a jam tart who had walloped him one. Obviously not but I wasn't seeking a moral debate on the rights of footballers to give some back. Who gives a fuck? 

I know a Hearts fan ran on the park to get to him in a Scottish Cup game in Glasgow. Trying to remember. Pretty sure it was the final at Parkhead. 

I'm no McCoist defender. But there's been far worse players than him in Scottish football for behaviour on and off the park. 

[Betty Swallicks]

3 minutes ago, Wester Hailes Skins said:

I know a Hearts fan ran on the park to get to him in a Scottish Cup game in Glasgow. Trying to remember. Pretty sure it was the final at Parkhead. 

I'm no McCoist defender. But there's been far worse players than him in Scottish football for behaviour on and off the park. 

huns are ok really eh?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

fuck off!

[afc1903mad]

1 minute ago, rocket_scientist said:

Where are you going with this? Far worse behaviour? What are you even talking about here?

I have two that springs to mind, but interesting to see who WHS comes back with

[Wester Hailes Skins]

The who's bigger debate is well worn. It's hard as size isn't down to trophies. Newcastle being a prime example.

Nottingham Forest and Derby can site the same successes as Aberdeen. But are mid sized championship yoyo clubs.

Size is fan base. Commercial appeal. Structure. Location and potential. Crowds. Turnover. 

And as someone put it on Kickback. If a billionaire bought Hearts, or Aberdeen. Hearts could be turned into a huge club, with the appeal of Edinburgh for players and additional fans as Chelsea and Man City have seen. We'd grow exponentially beyond our size now. Aberdeen wouldn't. That's the difference in size. Not trophies from the 80s.

But it's a bit rich bringing up trophies anyway when it's been over 3 decades since your last one of note. League or SC. You've come closer to relegation in that time. 

[Shinniesta]

Ally McCoist is a cunt. A wolf in sheep's clothing. Scotland's version of Ryan Giggs in that he is a media darling but deep down he's a cunt of a human being. I know people who used to witness some of his behaviour off the park away from the cameras every week. He's always been a cunt. But hey he has a cheeky smile and the media love him.Good old lovable Ally.

[The Cockney Don]

11 minutes ago, donswin1983 said:

And Hearts have no decent celebrity fans, unlike the Dons...Joe Biden, Beyonce, Dolly Parton and Paul Lawrie being a few that spring to mind...

The Jambo forum should be considering whether they are a bigger club than Livingston, or at a push, Hibs. Not in the same league as AFC, literally..

Don't forget those two great Londoners, Frank Bruno and The Cockney Don. 

[donswin1983]

Just now, The Cockney Don said:

Don't forget those two great Londoners, Frank Bruno and The Cockney Don. 

The list grows longer and more distinguished ?

[aberdeen1970]

5 minutes ago, Wester Hailes Skins said:

The who's bigger debate is well worn. It's hard as size isn't down to trophies. Newcastle being a prime example.

Nottingham Forest and Derby can site the same successes as Aberdeen. But are mid sized championship yoyo clubs.

Size is fan base. Commercial appeal. Structure. Location and potential. Crowds. Turnover. 

And as someone put it on Kickback. If a billionaire bought Hearts, or Aberdeen. Hearts could be turned into a huge club, with the appeal of Edinburgh for players and additional fans as Chelsea and Man City have seen. We'd grow exponentially beyond our size now. Aberdeen wouldn't. That's the difference in size. Not trophies from the 80s.

But it's a bit rich bringing up trophies anyway when it's been over 3 decades since your last one of note. League or SC. You've come closer to relegation in that time. 

Funny how it's never about which division you are in though whs? I think you boys at Hearts are trying too hard to try and claim something that's worth fuck all. 

[afc1903mad]

4 minutes ago, Wester Hailes Skins said:

But are mid sized championship yoyo clubs.

As are Hearts ?

 

5 minutes ago, Wester Hailes Skins said:

 

Size is fan base. Commercial appeal. Structure. Location and potential. Crowds. Turnover. 

 

As the clubs are essentially a business, a business is measured as a commercial value. In that sense, we’ve outperformed Hearts for years

[Wester Hailes Skins]

4 minutes ago, afc1903mad said:

I have two that springs to mind, but interesting to see who WHS comes back with

Again. I'm not putting McCoist on a pedestal. I'm just saying to someone calling him the most dispicable player in Scottish football, that's not right if you're talking morals and behaviours. Look at Hibs alone. Riordan. Griffiths. O'Connor.

I'd even accept you suggesting Lafferty for example cos there's things you can site. Even his Ibrox dive for that non head butt. Or Brown for his antics. 

But I don't get McCoist. Other than he got loads of goals. 

 

[afc1903mad]

20 minutes ago, donswin1983 said:

And Hearts have no decent celebrity fans, unlike the Dons...Joe Biden, Beyonce, Dolly Parton and Paul Lawrie being a few that spring to mind...

The Jambo forum should be considering whether they are a bigger club than Livingston, or at a push, Hibs. Not in the same league as AFC, literally..

Even Hibs have the Proclaimer brothers ?

Hearts are just mini-Huns, sub servant to the zombie club along the road. Essentially Huns without the bus fares.

[Henry]

14 hours ago, Crashnyploshnit said:

I remember Calgary Don telling me about his visit to Barcelona FC museum along with several Hearts and Hibs supporting pals. They were upset when there was mention and acknowledgment of Aberdeen’s European exploits, etc but no mention whatsoever of Hearts of Hibs. 

That’s unbelievable!

Calgary Don has friends? 

[Shinniesta]

3 minutes ago, Wester Hailes Skins said:

The who's bigger debate is well worn. It's hard as size isn't down to trophies. Newcastle being a prime example.

Nottingham Forest and Derby can site the same successes as Aberdeen. But are mid sized championship yoyo clubs.

Size is fan base. Commercial appeal. Structure. Location and potential. Crowds. Turnover. 

And as someone put it on Kickback. If a billionaire bought Hearts, or Aberdeen. Hearts could be turned into a huge club, with the appeal of Edinburgh for players and additional fans as Chelsea and Man City have seen. We'd grow exponentially beyond our size now. Aberdeen wouldn't. That's the difference in size. Not trophies from the 80s.

But it's a bit rich bringing up trophies anyway when it's been over 3 decades since your last one of note. League or SC. You've come closer to relegation in that time. 

You're talking pie in the sky stuff skins. Here's a newsflash for you it's Scottish football so a billionaire isn't going to buy Aberdeen or Hearts and splash hundreds of millions on them. It's never going to happen so what is the point in mentioning it? It's pie in the sky bullshit. Although who knows you might get another Romanov to spend millions you didn't have and then walk away from a near £30m debt again. 

Hearts can't use attendance as any sort of arguement because they can't fill their 20k capacity stadium as it is now so it's pie in the sky stuff from you. Again. Plus you have no idea how Aberdeen would prosper were they to be bought by a billionaire. Over a period of time they could attract fans from all over Scotland just like the old firm have as well as reigniting interest in fans fed up with the old firm duopoly. Aberdeen took 43k supporters to a cup final a few years ago and had the football authorities released the 9k spare seats above the ICT fans the waiting list for tickets mean every single one of those tickets would have been snapped up. So Aberdeen do have potential. But in general a lot of people are just tired of old firm dominance in this country and are indifferent about football now.
 

it's not rich at all bringing up that Aberdeen are a more successful club than Hearts. It's a stone cold fact. There are Dons fans on here who have experienced highs that you as a Hearts fan never have and never will. That's just reality. It's a bit rich for you to mention trophies when Hearts have won only 3 in close to 60 years. Even in the years since Fergie left the club Aberdeen have won more trophies than that.

And yes we did come close to relegation a couple of times but we survived. But Hearts were actually relegated. Twice in the last 6 years actually (2014 & 2020). So again a bit rich for you to mention the relegation word.

 

 

 

[Ten Caat]

27 minutes ago, The Cockney Don said:

Don't forget those two great Londoners, Frank Bruno and The Cockney Don. 

He said celebrity fans, not schizophrenic ones

[Durrant Dived]

9 minutes ago, Shinniesta said:

You're talking pie in the sky stuff skins. Here's a newsflash for you it's Scottish football so a billionaire isn't going to buy Aberdeen or Hearts and splash hundreds of millions on them. It's never going to happen so what is the point in mentioning it? It's pie in the sky bullshit. Although who knows you might get another Romanov to spend millions you didn't have and then walk away from a near £30m debt again. 

Hearts can't use attendance as any sort of arguement because they can't fill their 20k capacity stadium as it is now so it's pie in the sky stuff from you. Again. Plus you have no idea how Aberdeen would prosper were they to be bought by a billionaire. Over a period of time they could attract fans from all over Scotland just like the old firm have as well as reigniting interest in fans fed up with the old firm duopoly. Aberdeen took 43k supporters to a cup final a few years ago and had the football authorities released the 9k spare seats above the ICT fans the waiting list for tickets mean every single one of those tickets would have been snapped up. So Aberdeen do have potential. But in general a lot of people are just tired of old firm dominance in this country and are indifferent about football now.
 

it's not rich at all bringing up that Aberdeen are a more successful club than Hearts. It's a stone cold fact. There are Dons fans on here who have experienced highs that you as a Hearts fan never have and never will. That's just reality. It's a bit rich for you to mention trophies when Hearts have won only 3 in close to 60 years. Even in the years since Fergie left the club Aberdeen have won more trophies than that.

And yes we did come close to relegation a couple of times but we survived. But Hearts were actually relegated. Twice in the last 6 years actually (2014 & 2020). So again a bit rich for you to mention the relegation word.

 

 

 

Well said. Hearts fans just bring up the points to suit their argument ie location/fan base/last 25 years(where they think a few scottish cups outweigh being relegated TWICE). Scotlands 3rd biggest team should never be relegated.

[Dons79]

11 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

Spot on. He is bigotry personified, a disgusting human being. Yes he was a very good finisher, his instinct for positioning on the pitch being exceptional but there's no excuse for loving himself this much. The weegie mentality (except kafflicks) loves him.

His latest manifestation on Soccer Saturday is particularly cringe. Putting aside the pelters I'll get from we-know-who for daring to watch it most Saturdays of the last year, his arselicking of Jeff and his "banter" is ingratiating himself to an astonishing degree. He's begging for a full time gig basically.

The other disgusting hun, Kris Boyd, is identically ingratiating himself to the show. In his case, it's "Merse" who's cock he's sucking and it's so sickening to witness. Both hate AFC of course but it's what they stand for and how they go about "bettering" themselves that is offensive and galling. Typical of weegie sheisters, these two are admired in the west of Scotland.

 

Not admired by me that’s for sure!, the most odious, cringeworthy, self centred arseholes our country has ever produced IMO, Boyd deserves an absolute hiding after the shinnie comments alone, the masks going about are vomit enducing.

really hope the worst on Boyd! Sub human scum 

[Shinniesta]

McCoist was also not exactly the best husband or father. I know a woman who used to regularly drink in the same establishment as him in the south side of Glasgow in the 80's and 90's. I also currently work with the niece of Tommy Burns who knows all about McCoist's antics and prejudices. Let's just say it wasn't just Patsy Kensit that Ally fucked about with as a married man and father of 3. She was just the tip of the iceberg. And as RS said he's undoubtedly a bigot he just hides it when the cameras are rolling. 

[donswin1983]

21 minutes ago, Wester Hailes Skins said:

Again. I'm not putting McCoist on a pedestal. I'm just saying to someone calling him the most dispicable player in Scottish football, that's not right if you're talking morals and behaviours. Look at Hibs alone. Riordan. Griffiths. O'Connor.

I'd even accept you suggesting Lafferty for example cos there's things you can site. Even his Ibrox dive for that non head butt. Or Brown for his antics. 

But I don't get McCoist. Other than he got loads of goals. 

 

McCoist is a roaster and utter hypocrisy of a man. I can well imagine him in the blue room, singing the sash and doing the no hands conga with all the other serpents that play/played there. 
the former hibs players you mention are just fucking idiots...

on the footballing front I hate him for the Snelders challenge and for diving and getting a pen, when backing into Willie Miller in the league cup final...the goat molesting ref couldn’t point to the spot fast enough...

[NEM]

39 minutes ago, Wester Hailes Skins said:

The who's bigger debate is well worn. It's hard as size isn't down to trophies. Newcastle being a prime example.

Nottingham Forest and Derby can site the same successes as Aberdeen. But are mid sized championship yoyo clubs.

Size is fan base. Commercial appeal. Structure. Location and potential. Crowds. Turnover. 

And as someone put it on Kickback. If a billionaire bought Hearts, or Aberdeen. Hearts could be turned into a huge club, with the appeal of Edinburgh for players and additional fans as Chelsea and Man City have seen. We'd grow exponentially beyond our size now. Aberdeen wouldn't. That's the difference in size. Not trophies from the 80s.

But it's a bit rich bringing up trophies anyway when it's been over 3 decades since your last one of note. League or SC. You've come closer to relegation in that time. 

"Hearts could be a big club if a billionaire bought us"

Staggering insight there.  There's one nagging question though - why the fuck would a billionaire be interested in a tinpot, joke outfit like Hearts?  

[Shinniesta]

13 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

I have no problem with men shagging women, married or not. For many other reasons, McCoist is a total knob and Patsy kens it. 

I have no real problem with it either but at least be up front that you like that lifestyle in the way say the likes of McAvennie did. He never hid that was what he was. But McCoist was a con man he revealed in his his public persona of romantic family man and devoted father. When the reality was the exact opposite. That's McCoist all over playing up to the golden boy image when in reality he was a womanising bigoted cunt.

But yes you are right there are many other reasons other than being unfaithful to his wife why McCoist is a knob.

[don corleone]

7 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

 

He thought he was so great he could have all the cakes and eat them all. 

The fat cunt sure looks like he's had a fair crack at it. 

[Shinniesta]

4 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

You've just made an interesting distinction which nails it.

Being "up front" is not something a married man can be, if he isn't dead and is happy having sex with only one woman for the rest of his life.

Him loving himself, believing the hype, thinking of himself as "golden" i.e. his narcissism was/is the problem. Unlike other married men who are discreet in additional pussy acquisitions, he thought he wiz Erchie. From what I heard, he was pretty shocked and devastated when his wife left him when he really should've seen it coming cos he was taking the piss.

He thought he was so great he could have all the cakes and eat them all. 

True. He was definitely taking the piss and as you say from what I heard from people who regularly witnessed his antics with their own eyes he was far from discreet with it and basically on his own doorstep too. He'd never have gotten away with it these days.

He's undoubtedly a narcissistic knob jockey but people like that always find work in the media the likes of Boyd, Barton etc.

[Shinniesta]

Just now, don corleone said:

The fat cunt sure looks like he's had a fair crack at it. 

He really is a permanently red faced fat mess these days. You'd think being on tv regularly would inspire him to go on some sort of diet. He should stick to the radio these days.