Ronald Hernández

[The Gee Man]

6 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Hugh?

David

 

[Tord31]

Anyways we digress...

Bought for £800k plays 6 games in one year and them sold on for presumably the same price (hopefully more)

its certainly up there with some of the strangest things weve ever done

I'm not convinced he's shit.

[The Gee Man]

10 minutes ago, Tord31 said:

wright £1.5m

i thought i'd remembered robertson was lower but completely forgot about the existence of wright

Incredibly shit management how we got so little for windass and hignett who both went for millions multiple times

Yes of courses, S Wright to Huns! 

Very topical just now 

[Ten Caat]

55 minutes ago, The Gee Man said:

And I think Archibald was about 1million which in today’s money is about £20 million 

£800k I'm sure

[The Gee Man]

Corrected myself further up⬆️

[aberdeen1970]

Aye, Archie was 800k which was a huge sum then. 

It was only a couple of years after Trevor Francis became the first £1m signing for a UK club. 

[RUL]

8 hours ago, The Gee Man said:

And I think Archibald was about 1million which in today’s money is about £20 million 

Its about 3m.

[RUL]

9 hours ago, Tord31 said:

Seen that and although I didnt realise he was a right back I was clocking thats an additional foreign player space.

So if we sell Hernandez for £1M where is he on the record list?

£1M Anderson - aye fuckin right

£1.3M Hayes - aye fuckin right, again

£1.75M Jess

£2M Cosgrove

£3M McKenna

Windass and Hignett are under a million and we cant really count Dodds. Am I forgetting anyone? 

Interesting to note atlanta have only loaned escobar out, much to annoyance of their fans who think he's decent. 

[Zeus]

9 hours ago, The Gee Man said:

David

 

His name should be banished. 

[The Gee Man]

1 hour ago, RUL said:

Its about 3m.

£4.3 according to google, but in today’s market he would be a £20+million player IMO 

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

9 hours ago, rocket_scientist said:

Archibald was a superb footballer, an inspired piece of scouting and recruitment. The fact he spent the next eight years at two clubs like Spurs and Barcelona was testament to his quality.

Football has changed a LOT since then but the principles of identifying good talent and developing their skills hasn't, functions that AFC have been very poor at for far too long.

Will always remember him at Celtic Park ripping them to bits. Beautiful man. 

Don't know if it was him that identified and scouted Stevie Archibald, but if only we had someone of the ilk and class of Bobby Calder on our recruitment staff just now. 

What a man for identifying talent. 

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

7 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Surely its obvious why it isn't as easy for us to secure young talent like that now?

Because the huge clubs throw millions at scouting and are hoovering up youngsters ?

You don't have much clue about recruitment do you, big man? 

Identifying and scouting youngsters starts well before money is thrown about attracting the best of the next generation of footballer. 

I played with a few lads who were scouted by well known clubs, not clubs who spend millions on attracting youngsters to play for them. 

[Byrne Baby Byrne]

2 hours ago, RUL said:

Its about 3m.

Not in "football" money!

[Byrne Baby Byrne]

Just now, Matt Armstrong's Dog said:

You don't have much clue about recruitment do you, big man? 

Identifying and scouting youngsters starts well before money is thrown about attracting the best of the next generation of footballer. 

I played with a few lads who were scouted by well known clubs, not clubs who spend millions on attracting youngsters to play for them. 

Pish min. King MillerTime makes a sensible point. 

Back in the day you didn't have teams like Chelsea & Man City having massive youth squads with young players from all around the world. The idea of signing youngsters just to sell them all for relatively good fees didn't exist until the last 15-20 years or so.... or not that I was aware of it. Even if you do manage to get a good youth player in your squad there is still a very good chance one of those teams will pinch him for £500k then sell him for £5million with further clauses! Pricks

[G31DON]

11 minutes ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said:

You don't have much clue about recruitment do you, big man? 

Identifying and scouting youngsters starts well before money is thrown about attracting the best of the next generation of footballer. 

I played with a few lads who were scouted by well known clubs, not clubs who spend millions on attracting youngsters to play for them. 

City and Chelsea are spending big money filing their academies. 

 

[G31DON]

A player like Gilmour that Chelsea took from the huns, its the sort of player they could have built a team around in the old days. Now he's off at 16 and it's getting impossible to hold on to top prospects. 

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

1 minute ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

Pish min. King MillerTime makes a sensible point. 

Back in the day you didn't have teams like Chelsea & Man City having massive youth squads with young players from all around the world. The idea of signing youngsters just to sell them all for relatively good fees didn't exist until the last 15-20 years or so.... or not that I was aware of it. Even if you do manage to get a good youth player in your squad there is still a very good chance one of those teams will pinch him for £500k then sell him for £5million with further clauses! Pricks

You make a good point min in respect in the change of culture in respect of selling on youngsters for a healthy profit over the last, say, 20 years or so. 

However, the concept of the recruitment of young footballers from the age of 7 onwards remains the same.

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

18 minutes ago, G31DON said:

City and Chelsea are spending big money filing their academies. 

 

Aye, fair enough min, they do. However, what they are doing is pure money laundering, disguising the criminal source of illegimately gained money by transferring money into, what is allegedly deemed to be, a legitimate enterprise, such as a football club.

Messrs Abramovich and Mansour are very clever individuals who cover their tracks extremely well. 

Even the context of the article casts doubt on why Manchester City, a previously well-run, honest community club, felt the need to give Southend United far more than the market value for a 13 year old footballer. 

[StandFree1982]

Is he gone yet?! 

[strachanmcgheegoal]

1 hour ago, Millertime said:

Surely its obvious why it isn't as easy for us to secure young talent like that now?

Because the huge clubs throw millions at scouting and are hoovering up youngsters ?

And yet you thought the cheeks underwriting League 1 and 2 ticket numbers for their colt teams was a good idea?

Dont get me wrong, in principle it is a good idea, but this is one of the flip sides of it and why overall, Im  dead set against it.  Im also concerned that the colt team would then quickly be filled with our better players - Scott Wright being a perfect example - leaving us stymied and the young players still in the same bottleneck they were before only much more concentrated.

  

[Granite95]

11 hours ago, Tord31 said:

Anyways we digress...

Bought for £800k plays 6 games in one year and them sold on for presumably the same price (hopefully more)

its certainly up there with some of the strangest things weve ever done

I'm not convinced he's shit.

Almost feel for the lad, new country and couldnt see his family for months on end, only pals were those at the club (seemingly Ojo was a good mate of his).

Probably go on to be a very capable right back and we'll look like idiots for choosing to play Logan/Kennedy over him

[Tord31]

25 minutes ago, Granite95 said:

Almost feel for the lad, new country and couldnt see his family for months on end, only pals were those at the club (seemingly Ojo was a good mate of his).

Probably go on to be a very capable right back and we'll look like idiots for choosing to play Logan/Kennedy over him

It'll be interesting to watch him for Atlanta assuming the games are on Sky again this year

[GeorgeStreetReds]

1 hour ago, Tord31 said:

It'll be interesting to watch him for Atlanta assuming the games are on Sky again this year

Agreed.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

I apologise.  I read your retraction wrongly.

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

10 minutes ago, Millertime said:

So, to summarise, I was right, you were wrong 

Not a case of right or wrong, or the New Testament Gospel of Truth according to Saint Millertime min.

A case of simply not being reasonable, full and clear with your theory. 

 

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

18 minutes ago, Millertime said:

How's your score on here looking wee man?

-1

???

[aberdeen1970]

3 hours ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said:

Don't know if it was him that identified and scouted Stevie Archibald, but if only we had someone of the ilk and class of Bobby Calder on our recruitment staff just now. 

What a man for identifying talent. 

Did Billy McNeill not take him with him from Clyde? 

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

2 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Did Billy McNeill not take him with him from Clyde? 

Good shout, he sure did.

However, I may be wrong, but Bobby Calder was instrumental in getting the likes of Harper, Graham, Miller, McLeish and Leighton from Glasgow and the surrounding areas.

Wouldn't have been surprised if Archibald had been noted by Calder during the time he was scouting in that area of the world, although McNeill did take him from Clyde after previously working with him there. 

[Matt Armstrong's Dog]

Just now, Millertime said:

-28

You really need a good fucking slap min. 

[NEM]

1 hour ago, Matt Armstrong's Dog said:

You really need a good fucking slap min. 

Only six thousand odd downvotes to catch up on bazooka chin - the board leader ?