Coronavirus

[manboobs109]

Yeah cheers for that

[The Boofon]

Just now, manboobs109 said:

Yeah cheers for that

You do know how discussions work aye?

 

If you ask a Yes or no question expect a yes or no answer.

 

Over to you again.

[The Boofon]

Fuck it. Get the pubs open. 

[manboobs109]

Just now, The Boofon said:

You do know how discussions work aye?

 

If you ask a Yes or no question expect a yes or no answer.

 

Over to you again.

You're not interested in a discussion. It's just an exercise in trying to show how clever you are and how stupid i am.

Unfortunately for you it's just shown how much of a fucking knob you are

[The Boofon]

1 minute ago, manboobs109 said:

You're not interested in a discussion. It's just an exercise in trying to show how clever you are and how stupid i am.

Unfortunately for you it's just shown how much of a fucking knob you are

Not at all. If you're unable to give anything more than you've previously rinsed and repeated why bother to ask for a debate?

You've asked for a discussion and then just said the same old shite again.

Bore off.

[manboobs109]

Just now, The Boofon said:

Not at all. If you're unable to give anything more than you've previously rinsed and repeated why bother to ask for a debate?

You've asked for a discussion and then just said the same old shite again.

Bore off.

It's just you using the same fucking boring pedantic pish you constantly do. I've said it before(sorry) but I hope you get some pleasure from it because no one else does.

[manboobs109]

2 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

The truth is often uncomfortable. For some. Since the future is not known, it's the prospective future that is making some uncomfortable. They don't want to hear a bad future. I think a bad future can only be avoided/ mitigated by asking the right questions in the present. 

That's what I think. People in general don't want to accept the "new normal" so don't want to think in any depth about it. 

"The vaccines will work, we'll be back to normal by July" is comforting even if there is no real evidence for it.

[manboobs109]

I get it though, I've been banging the same drum for a while now and it's clearly aggravating people so I'll leave it.

[Reed or deed]

Get out and get some fresh air and exercise you bunch of doom mongers.

This shit not in the news or in every cunts faces as it is?

 

[Reed or deed]

2 minutes ago, Bad_Mobby said:

Hoverboards 

Digital mono rails.

[manboobs109]

1 minute ago, rocket_scientist said:

The moaning cunt anticipates a bad future. A happy clapper is offended by his moaning. Neither knows what's really going on but the moaners and questioners are infinitely more valuable than the blindly faithful.

Not saying either of you are one or the other. Those were the extremes. The only certainty is that we haven't got a clue how this will pan out. However it does, I'm not seeing much to be optimistic about just now. 

I'm not a moaner I just demand standards, flip flops in the shower, that sort of thing. I'm the Paul Hartley of the Hat.

[manboobs109]

Just now, Bad_Mobby said:

Send your daily thoughts to Sturgo/Bojo in an email 

I doubt they read here 

I've emailed Sturgo as well as my MP and MSP. Had some positive feedback from the MSP, basically ignored by Sturgeon and my MP. 

[Parklife]

3 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

That's what I think. People in general don't want to accept the "new normal" so don't want to think in any depth about it. 

"The vaccines will work, we'll be back to normal by July" is comforting even if there is no real evidence for it.

My hope is that as we progress through the winter and into spring, mass vaccinations will be well underway and, as the better weather comes and the virus prevalence lowers, we'll be in a better position to keep it low (due to the large number of people vaccinated). 

We look to be finally restricting international travel, so shouldn't be importing cases either. 

We'll then be in a position where we can get to some sort of normality (fans at games, pubs open, etc), while the full country (more or less) is vaccinated. From then we'll hopefully get to normal (excluding travel) by autumn. 

Obviously that all depends on the vaccine roll out going well (which it appears to be so far) and the vaccines being effective (unknown). 

 

[Reed or deed]

Yes. Post all your deep seated concern on the hat.

We are the best council for these types of issues. Matters are taken seriously here and we have the power to make the changes.

Yours sincerely

[The Boofon]

33 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

It's just you using the same fucking boring pedantic pish you constantly do. I've said it before(sorry) but I hope you get some pleasure from it because no one else does.

It's not being pedantic. You're offering nothing.

 

[manboobs109]

1 minute ago, cheesepipes said:

You've every right to vent Manboobs, get it off your chest. Good for the soul. 

 

Cheers man. I'm not sure why anyone expects the Coronavirus thread to be a barrel of laughs but I've done my bit. I leave cunts in peace now.

[Don Fonte]

3 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Cheers man. I'm not sure why anyone expects the Coronavirus thread to be a barrel of laughs but I've done my bit. I leave cunts in peace now.

Get venting about Mcinnes instead min. Send him a couple letters telling him to quit. Might work. (Remember to let him know you're the hat's POTY - might hold some clout)

[The Boofon]

1 hour ago, manboobs109 said:

Schools - why do kids need to be in school full time? If they can learn well enough at home why have the expense of not required. Part time schooling would make sense

 

1 hour ago, The Boofon said:

1. They can't.

2. Agree 100% for now.

 

Home schooling if nowhere near the experience required for being in school. It's a shambles. IT issues, lack of interaction, teachers snowed under preparing lessons that are either ignored, misunderstood or complained about by parents with no clue about what the lesson actually is. List goes on and on. KIds need to be back to school getting proper lessons in a real learning environment as soon as possible.

Perfect example.

That's why kids need to be in school full time. You've ignored this. A good opportunity for you to answer with some alternative viewpoint or agreement but you've just blanked it.

 

You don't want discussion as much as you're protesting.

[manboobs109]

2 minutes ago, The Boofon said:

It's not being pedantic. You're offering nothing.

 

I'll offer you some advice. Shave off that stupid fucking hair, stop sitting on your fist and stop being such a literal, pedantic, cock smoking cunt.

[The Boofon]

1 minute ago, rocket_scientist said:

What are you offering?

Or me?

Or any of us?

Speculation has a place. Asking good questions of the right people is better. A consensus of citizens is needed, something the leaders have actively discouraged. 

I'm offering him the chance to expand on his views.

He thinks I'm trying to be an arsehole.

 

He wants the discussion yet fails to open up when asked about it or given answers that can be countered.

[The Buzzard]

3 hours ago, manboobs109 said:

Yeah fair play, I'll just watch TV, self medicate with drink and/drugs and not think about the world at all. After all Boris Johnson will sort everything out for me. 

Genuine question, Moobs. How are you spending your days if you're not working just now? I take it you couldn't/wouldn't get another job to keep you ticking over until the time comes you can resume your own work?

I appreciate that might fuck up any benefits or grants you are in receipt of just now but wondered what was the better of the two options?

[The Boofon]

1 minute ago, manboobs109 said:

I'll offer you some advice. Shave off that stupid fucking hair, stop sitting on your fist and stop being such a literal, pedantic, cock smoking cunt.

Point in case.

Get the pubs open. 

[manboobs109]

Just now, The Boofon said:

I'm offering him the chance to expand on his views.

He thinks I'm trying to be an arsehole.

 

He wants the discussion yet fails to open up when asked about it or given answers that can be countered.

You are being a fucking arsehole. 

Yes

July

If you ask a yes or no question blah blah blah

It's not the Oxford debating chamber, you can engage and not be a smarmy, literal cunt.

 

[For Fecks Sake]

14 minutes ago, The Buzzard said:

Genuine question, Moobs. How are you spending your days if you're not working just now?

Spending every waking moment on the hat of course - you don't win POTY without putting in the hours and effort ?

[manboobs109]

3 minutes ago, The Buzzard said:

Genuine question, Moobs. How are you spending your days if you're not working just now? I take it you couldn't/wouldn't get another job to keep you ticking over until the time comes you can resume your own work?

I appreciate that might fuck up any benefits or grants you are in receipt of just now but wondered what was the better of the two options?

I've been job hunting Buzz. Interview on the 29th to become an NHS hero. Despite what everyone tells you there are fuck all jobs out there. 

Also if I'm honest on applications/cvs it's pretty obvious I'm going to fuck off as soon as things change so I'm generally ruled out from any permanent contract jobs. Morrison's were honest enough to say that.

Did the parcels for a bit before Christmas but the core plugs have gone in my van and it's uneconomical to repair. Tried to get another but they ask to see your books for a lease and mine are obviously a disaster so that's fucked.

I can use the wife's motor when my own work picks up but it's no good for parcels. 

If I get this job on the 29th I'll be golden but we live in strange times where we've closed the majority of businesses in the country, encourage people to "stay home" then force people to try and find jobs in amongst it all.

[manboobs109]

13 minutes ago, cheesepipes said:

You're POTY. 

Stand tall and proud, let your voice be heard. 

 

Cheers man. I knew you'd have my back.

[The Buzzard]

1 hour ago, The Boofon said:

1. They can't.

2. Agree 100% for now.

 

Home schooling if nowhere near the experience required for being in school. It's a shambles. IT issues, lack of interaction, teachers snowed under preparing lessons that are either ignored, misunderstood or complained about by parents with no clue about what the lesson actually is. List goes on and on. KIds need to be back to school getting proper lessons in a real learning environment as soon as possible.

Agreed. I don't think it's right that any parent be tasked with having to teach kids, especially at early primary school years with the basics of reading, writing and numeracy. Some parents might be barely literate themselves. 

I don't know how we get them back into school so that everyone feels safe though. Smaller classes, attendance on alternate days, shorter days so it's a case of being in class then home (limited break times and opportunities to socialise - sounds a bit draconian tbf)? 

Fuck knows. It's a tough one for all involved. 

[manboobs109]

6 minutes ago, The Buzzard said:

Agreed. I don't think it's right that any parent be tasked with having to teach kids, especially at early primary school years with the basics of reading, writing and numeracy. Some parents might be barely literate themselves. 

I don't know how we get them back into school so that everyone feels safe though. Smaller classes, attendance on alternate days, shorter days so it's a case of being in class then home (limited break times and opportunities to socialise - sounds a bit draconian tbf)? 

Fuck knows. It's a tough one for all involved. 

Part time schooling(blended learning) Half the day at school, half the day at home or childminder. Reduce the contacts so reduce the opportunity for the virus to spread. 

[Ten Caat]

16 hours ago, Parklife said:

Thanks for the clarification. 

When you say "fully mutate", what does that mean? They say one of the Covid strains has 15 mutations. How close is that to fully mutating? 

 

17 mutations of covid are known. 

Viruses come in many different "forms"......but they all need to infect a host living organism to survive. Parasites in other words. However if they didn't mutate....the host organism would eventually develop its own resistance to the virus and it would die off. So they mutate....developing different properties to the original virus that enable them to overcome or "defeat/bamboozle" the defence mechanisms of the host. In humans this is the immune system. And artificially boosted by immunisations in certain cases.

Some never need to fully mutate, just create new ways of avoiding the immune system. Some viruses attach themselves to the outside of a cell and for want of a better phrase "suck it dry" to gain whatever "nutrition" it needs to survive and most importantly..to multiply. Others (such as HIV) are retroviruses...they need to actually penetrate into the cell and inserts its own RNA into the cell's DNA to actively alter that cell to allow it to then reproduce.

The flu virus fully mutates. Ie by the end of its mutating cycle...you end up with essentially a totally new virus that has none of the original "properties" of the original virus. It will still cause the same symptoms as the original virus. It's just finding different ways at a nanoscopic level to ensure its survival. But once in a blue moon it will (purely by chance) have a property at this level that causes us massive problems...maybe make it suddenly massively more transmissable or become randomly more deadly (think of the Spanish flu in 1918)

The problem we have with covid is because it is mutating so rapidly. And because it is brand new.....we knew nothing about it's properties to begin with and as fast as the scientist as finding out about them....bang a new mutation is discovered with different properties. The South African and especially Brazilian mutations are extremely worrying as it looks very much like the vaccines that have just been rolled out may not be effective against them at all.

[NEM]

1 hour ago, The Boofon said:

1. They can't.

2. Agree 100% for now.

 

Home schooling if nowhere near the experience required for being in school. It's a shambles. IT issues, lack of interaction, teachers snowed under preparing lessons that are either ignored, misunderstood or complained about by parents with no clue about what the lesson actually is. List goes on and on. KIds need to be back to school getting proper lessons in a real learning environment as soon as possible.

Yip - It’s a complete shambles as well as an absolute nightmare for teachers