Coronavirus

[Redforever86]

2 minutes ago, Ten Caat said:

17 mutations of covid are known. 

Viruses come in many different "forms"......but they all need to infect a host living organism to survive. Parasites in other words. However if they didn't mutate....the host organism would eventually develop its own resistance to the virus and it would die off. So they mutate....developing different properties to the original virus that enable them to overcome or "defeat/bamboozle" the defence mechanisms of the host. In humans this is the immune system. And artificially boosted by immunisations in certain cases.

Some never need to fully mutate, just create new ways of avoiding the immune system. Some viruses attach themselves to the outside of a cell and for want of a better phrase "suck it dry" to gain whatever "nutrition" it needs to survive and most importantly..to multiply. Others (such as HIV) are retroviruses...they need to actually penetrate into the cell and inserts its own RNA into the cell's DNA to actively alter that cell to allow it to then reproduce.

The flu virus fully mutates. Ie by the end of its mutating cycle...you end up with essentially a totally new virus that has none of the original "properties" of the original virus. It will still cause the same symptoms as the original virus. It's just finding different ways at a nanoscopic level to ensure its survival. But once in a blue moon it will (purely by chance) have a property at this level that causes us massive problems...maybe make it suddenly massively more transmissable or become randomly more deadly (think of the Spanish flu in 1918)

The problem we have with covid is because it is mutating so rapidly. And because it is brand new.....we knew nothing about it's properties to begin with and as fast as the scientist as finding out about them....bang a new mutation is discovered with different properties. The South African and especially Brazilian mutations are extremely worrying as it looks very much like the vaccines that have just been rolled out may not be effective against them at all.

What do you know about severely bruised penises? 

[NEM]

1 hour ago, rocket_scientist said:

We can't predict the future. Or at least I can't. Nostra fucking rocket ain't me. Others are trying to but it's all speculation. A better guess would need to know two things; the nature of the virus and the agenda of the ruling classes. Nobody knows the former and what the true objectives of the government are, they've not communicated to me at least. The one thing it's not about is public health and economic prosperity. The sheeple who trust the Tories are part of the problem, a big part, a very big part. It is our compliance with the inept and/or corrupt leadership and failing to ask the right questions that gives them power. We are sleepwalking into the future. 

The SNP are in charge up here not the Tories.

 

Not that I trust either of the cunts

[The Boofon]

36 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

You are being a fucking arsehole. 

Yes

July

If you ask a yes or no question blah blah blah

It's not the Oxford debating chamber, you can engage and not be a smarmy, literal cunt.

 

I am engaging. You're behaving like a muppet.

[Ten Caat]

3 minutes ago, Redforever86 said:

What do you know about severely bruised penises? 

Tell them to knock on the physio's door and wait for Devlin completing his daily session

[The Boofon]

11 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Part time schooling(blended learning) Half the day at school, half the day at home or childminder. Reduce the contacts so reduce the opportunity for the virus to spread. 

See that's a bit better. That would be much better at this moment in time than the current set up. Not sustainable going forward especially High School.

 

Primary school yes. My youngest two are in a school with small classes anyway and so the classes are a mix of years. 

 

High school is a different ball game altogether. That needs to be full time ASAP. It's a shambolic situation just now with classes in some subjects being well managed as possible as they are easy enough to structure (English, maths and so on)

 

The others are a complete waste of time doing remote learning. Absolutely no need to be doing PE or RE for example. Just tying up kids time that could be spent getting them wiser to the world. They can do PE anytime.

 

[NEM]

45 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

I think you'll find that this is not an independent Scotland. 

Why’s sturgeon on the Tv every day if she’s not calling the shots?

[NEM]

43 minutes ago, The Boofon said:

See that's a bit better. That would be much better at this moment in time than the current set up. Not sustainable going forward especially High School.

 

Primary school yes. My youngest two are in a school with small classes anyway and so the classes are a mix of years. 

 

High school is a different ball game altogether. That needs to be full time ASAP. It's a shambolic situation just now with classes in some subjects being well managed as possible as they are easy enough to structure (English, maths and so on)

 

The others are a complete waste of time doing remote learning. Absolutely no need to be doing PE or RE for example. Just tying up kids time that could be spent getting them wiser to the world. They can do PE anytime.

 

Are they still asking secondary school kids to do PE and RE lessons? FFS that’s ridiculous ?

[Guest milne_afc]

Why not evacuate the kids out to boarding schools until the vaccination is rolled out?

Kids get an education.

Parents get to work.

Just do it every year.

[Reed or deed]

44 minutes ago, The Boofon said:

See that's a bit better. That would be much better at this moment in time than the current set up. Not sustainable going forward especially High School.

 

Primary school yes. My youngest two are in a school with small classes anyway and so the classes are a mix of years. 

 

High school is a different ball game altogether. That needs to be full time ASAP. It's a shambolic situation just now with classes in some subjects being well managed as possible as they are easy enough to structure (English, maths and so on)

 

The others are a complete waste of time doing remote learning. Absolutely no need to be doing PE or RE for example. Just tying up kids time that could be spent getting them wiser to the world. They can do PE anytime.

 

What folk don't seem to realise that it just isn't feasible to have educational and corporate buildings open and functioning, when only partly occupied.

The cost of transport, cleaning, maintenance, heating, lighting, staff etc just isn't economical and a logistical nightmare to plan and manage.

Half of the kids that people are concerned about in terms of their education probably won't apply themselves at school anyway. 

[Reed or deed]

4 minutes ago, NEM said:

Are they still asking secondary school kids to do PE and RE lessons? FFS that’s ridiculous ?

PE is one of the easiest subjects to co-ordinate and lots of schools have simply switched it to outdoors where they have the facility.

Kids need PE. Not everybody is academic.

 

[The beard of mcinnes]

13 hours ago, rocket_scientist said:

If this happened whilst I didn't witness, it's not a sight I'd regret missing. My imagination paints it perfectly. 

Straight in your wank bank aye.

 

 

[The beard of mcinnes]

2 hours ago, The Boofon said:

1. They can't.

2. Agree 100% for now.

 

Home schooling if nowhere near the experience required for being in school. It's a shambles. IT issues, lack of interaction, teachers snowed under preparing lessons that are either ignored, misunderstood or complained about by parents with no clue about what the lesson actually is. List goes on and on. KIds need to be back to school getting proper lessons in a real learning environment as soon as possible.

More to school than x + y 

Especially for younger children who are missing out on key developmental areas.

 

[The Boofon]

6 minutes ago, Reed or deed said:

PE is one of the easiest subjects to co-ordinate and lots of schools have simply switched it to outdoors where they have the facility.

Kids need PE. Not everybody is academic.

 

Schools are shut min.

 

They're giving PE classes online. Waste of fucking time. They're capable of exercise without a teacher telling them to run on the spot.

[Reed or deed]

1 minute ago, The Boofon said:

Schools are shut min.

 

They're giving PE classes online. Waste of fucking time. They're capable of exercise without a teacher telling them to run on the spot.

Schools are nae shut.

Almost every school in Moray alone is open to accomodate vulnerable kids and kids of key workers bud.

Some high schools are open with a total number of 5 kids in them. Imagine the effective cost of that.

[Reed or deed]

2 minutes ago, The Boofon said:

Schools are shut min.

 

They're giving PE classes online. Waste of fucking time. They're capable of exercise without a teacher telling them to run on the spot.

Zoom with Willie Wig

[The Boofon]

1 minute ago, Reed or deed said:

Schools are nae shut.

Almost every school in Moray alone is open to accomodate vulnerable kids and kids of key workers bud.

Some high schools are open with a total number of 5 kids in them. Imagine the effective cost of that.

You ken fit I meant.

I know. My missus is going in on a Thursday at the moment for the vulnerable and key worker kids.

 

Just now, Reed or deed said:

Zoom with Willie Wig

? ?

[Fridge]

18 minutes ago, NEM said:

Are they still asking secondary school kids to do PE and RE lessons? FFS that’s ridiculous ?

No just that, even Drama. Get to fuck.

[The Boofon]

New Covid admission to hospital every 30 seconds according to NHS chief in England.

120 an hour.

2880 a day new admissions.

Thought the hospitals were already full to bursting?

NHS England boss Sir Simon Stevens says person admitted to hospital every 30 seconds with Covid | Daily Mail Online

Calling bullshit on that particular headline. Must be misleading. (It's a Daily Mail one of course)

 

Good job there's over a thousand deaths a day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest milne_afc]

2 hours ago, Bad_Mobby said:

tory cunt Raab, this morning 
 

"Staggeringly, every thirty seconds across England another patient is being admitted to hospital with coronavirus."

 

surely the guffs don’t have that much beds? 

Keep up @The Boofon min

[The Boofon]

Just now, milne_afc said:

Keep up @The Boofon min

Bloody repeats.

[The Boofon]

4 minutes ago, Bad_Mobby said:

Edit - made no sense 

Seen it though. You're right.

 

He is a cunt.

[jamiesd]

36 minutes ago, The Boofon said:

New Covid admission to hospital every 30 seconds according to NHS chief in England.

120 an hour.

2880 a day new admissions.

Thought the hospitals were already full to bursting?

NHS England boss Sir Simon Stevens says person admitted to hospital every 30 seconds with Covid | Daily Mail Online

Calling bullshit on that particular headline. Must be misleading. (It's a Daily Mail one of course)

 

Good job there's over a thousand deaths a day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The fact this crook issued a statement that stats were no longer going to be collected last week as they didnt have capacity to do it.  And now this, just coincidence?  

 

Fucking at it!

[The Boofon]

14 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

'What rate are people being discharged' would be my question to give it more context.

Over a 1000 deaths a day. Presume most of those are hospitals  (or care homes)

 

2 in, 1 out in other words.

[NEM]

1 hour ago, rocket_scientist said:

Is that a genuine question? Do you need others to fill in the blanks for you?

Why did you take ONE WORD from my post to focus on? I wasn't talking about constitutional matters. This thread isn't about the relationships between the devolved assembly and the central government. You have decided to change the subject. You wouldn't be deliberately annoying again would you? Do you think I would be so stupid to waste my time dealing with your shite a second time?

“Blah blah blah”

 

Still struggling finding that Trump quote I see ?

[manboobs109]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/17/first-fruits-of-vaccine-rollout-should-be-seen-in-weeks-experts-predict

"

However, it is in the second category – hospitalisations – that the mass vaccination rollout will have a noticeable impact, and that is because the programme has been specifically targeted at the old and the vulnerable – those most likely to need treatment in a hospital. As a result, hospitalisations are likely to start to decline at the end of January and reach 40% of current levels by the middle of March.

This decline will be less apparent for those admitted to intensive care units (ICUs). Once in hospital, the very elderly are generally not selected for such treatment, and so ICU admissions are likely to drop to only 65% of current use by early April."

Presumably this is all predicated on us all still being locked down until April

" However, it is the impact on death rates that will show the greatest effect of vaccinations, it is thought. The rate will not start to drop noticeably until late February but once the decline starts it should accelerate quickly until, by mid-April, death rates linked to Covid-19 will be reduced to below 20% of current levels. This reduction – in hospitalisations and deaths – suggests that the NHS, while still facing continued severe stress over the next few weeks, can expect to achieve stability by spring."

So lockdown and vaccine will get us to 200 to 300 deaths a day by Spring. We had restrictions when it was single figure deaths a day. 

[manboobs109]

4 minutes ago, The Boofon said:

Over a 1000 deaths a day. Presume most of those are hospitals  (or care homes)

 

2 in, 1 out in other words.

There will be people being discharged alive though

[The Boofon]

6 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

There will be people being discharged alive though

Really? Check out the brain on Bret.

Fuck sake I know that. Just using a rough calculator to fend off Hanz' triviality.

 

 

[manboobs109]

3 minutes ago, The Boofon said:

Really? Check out the brain on Bret.

Fuck sake I know that. Just using a rough calculator to fend off Hanz' triviality.

 

 

A rough calculator that was wildly inaccurate. A valuable contribution. 

[The Boofon]

1 minute ago, manboobs109 said:

A rough calculator that was wildly inaccurate. A valuable contribution. 

Still smarting. Nice. Have a lovely day. 

[manboobs109]

1 minute ago, The Boofon said:

Still smarting. Nice. Have a lovely day. 

Not smarting even slightly. Just using your own pointless, boring, pedantry against you.