Coronavirus

[manboobs109]

An old dear down my bit, mum of one of my mum's pals, taken into hospital today with Covid. Got her vaccine a just after new year. 

Not sure what to make of it tbh. 

[Ke1t]

Just now, manboobs109 said:

An old dear down my bit, mum of one of my mum's pals, taken into hospital today with Covid. Got her vaccine a just after new year. 

Not sure what to make of it tbh. 

Did she only get one shot, or has she had the booster inna? 

[manboobs109]

3 minutes ago, Ke1t said:

Did she only get one shot, or has she had the booster inna? 

Defo just one shot. No one around here has had a second one yet. 

[NEM]

3 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

An old dear down my bit, mum of one of my mum's pals, taken into hospital today with Covid. Got her vaccine a just after new year. 

Not sure what to make of it tbh. 

My Granda got moved into a care home just before Christmas. Quarantined for 2 weeks over the festive period (scandalous but never mind that’s a separate issue). Tested before he went in, tested after the quarantine then given the vaccine. Couple of weeks later tests positive despite nobody being allowed to visit and none of the other staff or patients returning a positive test.

Vaccine is useless and/or the test is a heap of shite. 
 

[Ke1t]

2 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Defo just one shot. No one around here has had a second one yet. 

According to what I'm reading, the efficacy of the single shot is only 30-40%.  She sounds like an auld lass, so I'm interested to hear if the initial shot helps her beat it... sounds morbid, but valuable information. 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/19/single-covid-vaccine-dose-in-israel-less-effective-than-we-hoped

[manboobs109]

She's in her 90's. Did all the 'shielding' stuff. Had to get a taxi to the docs and back. 

[NEM]

1 minute ago, Ke1t said:

According to what I'm reading, the efficacy of the single shot is only 30-40%.  She sounds like an auld lass, so I'm interested to hear if the initial shot helps her beat it... sounds morbid, but valuable information. 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/19/single-covid-vaccine-dose-in-israel-less-effective-than-we-hoped

The way the NHS website describes it the second shot gives you longer protection not better

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/coronavirus-vaccine/

“The 1st dose of the COVID-19 vaccine should give you good protection from coronavirus. But you need to have the 2 doses of the vaccine to give you longer lasting protection.”

Possibly just poorly worded 

 

[Ke1t]

3 minutes ago, NEM said:

The way the NHS website describes it the second shot gives you longer protection not better

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/coronavirus-vaccine/

“The 1st dose of the COVID-19 vaccine should give you good protection from coronavirus. But you need to have the 2 doses of the vaccine to give you longer lasting protection.”

Possibly just poorly worded 

 

'Good protection' is vague to the point of being worthless information in isolation, maybe deliberately so on their part. 

The initial shot requires a booster to give 'full', long term immunity, and without the booster shot the initial shot is only good for 6 weeks or so. So the second shot does give you longer/'full' immunity. But 'good' in this case seems more to pertain to efficacy rather than longevity, since longevity is implied in the the second sentence. 

I'd take 'good' to mean a 'degree of immunity' rather than 'period of time' of immunity.

Say, 30-40%, if anyone considers that 'good'.

 

[manboobs109]

I don't get why they don't just do what the cunts who've made it recommend. Seems mental. 

[Simply Red]

22 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

She's in her 90's. Did all the 'shielding' stuff. Had to get a taxi to the docs and back. 

Middle class

[Parklife]

9 hours ago, manboobs109 said:

I don't get why they don't just do what the cunts who've made it recommend. Seems mental. 

Exactly. The large scale trials of the Pfizer vaccine have all been done on the basis of vaccine doses 3 weeks apart. That's what all the data we have is based on & that's what Pfizer recommend. 

Why the fuck you'd change that, I've no idea. Playing a very dangerous game. I suspect they're doing it so they can half vaccinate more people and make the numbers look more impressive. Trying to play the short term polling game, rather than taking the right course of action. They've done it all along through this and still haven't learnt their lesson. 

[King Street Loon]

10 hours ago, manboobs109 said:

I don't get why they don't just do what the cunts who've made it recommend. Seems mental. 

Because the government know best obviously. 

Thats why we're all in this waiting room in purgatory. 

[Zeus]

Schools not back till May now is the chat. 

Ace! 

[Parklife]

There was something like 50,000 in the Pfizer trials. I don't know anything about trials of new medicines but that sounds pretty large scale to me. 

Obviously it's nothing compared to the numbers of people who'll actually get the jab and given the short length of the trials, we've no idea the long term efficacy of the vaccines. 

[Zeus]

Agree with the fattest, unhealthy part. A massive part of the death toll imo 

 

[Howard Marks]

I'm away out for a long walk shortly with the Mrs and the dog. Pretty sure small freedoms like this will be taken away shortly as the government look to "strengthen" the lockdown. 

[Howard Marks]

36 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Agree with the fattest, unhealthy part. A massive part of the death toll imo 

 

And while the one in a thousand usually healthy under 45 is the poster boy/girl for covid.

[Joe pike]

2 hours ago, rocket_scientist said:

Wuhan back to normal with no vaccine.

The main reason the UK (and the USA) are taking the biggest hit is that our people are the fattest, the most unhealthy and the least disciplined. 

They say these grilled bats are pretty healthy and tasty.

[Zeus]

This isn't a lockdown 

Roads are busy

Whatever happened to STAY AT HOME 

 

 

See folk that spout this. Wise up eh 

 

 

[King Street Loon]

1 hour ago, Zeus said:

This isn't a lockdown 

Roads are busy

Whatever happened to STAY AT HOME 

 

 

See folk that spout this. Wise up eh 

 

 

Hazelhead Park was hoaching earlier on.

[Zeus]

Disgrace. They don’t deserve a ventilator if they end up needing one 

[Joe pike]

8 minutes ago, King Street Loon said:

Hazelhead Park was hoaching earlier on.

I can vouch for that.

The q for the cafe was a continuous 15/20 deep.

Decent bacon sanny and latte.

[Parklife]

31 minutes ago, Millertime said:

 

Surely its going to lead to civil war as I can easily imagine factions of the population being not far away from rioting 

???

[NEM]

56 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Thats the rhetoric starting to lay the groundwork for this lockdown going on and on, with it now obvious the vulnerable being vaccinated will not see an easing on things

In all seriousness, what's the way out of this?

Surely its going to lead to civil war as I can easily imagine factions of the population being not far away from rioting 

Been kicking off in Holland today. Amsterdam and Eindhoven 

[NEM]

38 minutes ago, Joe pike said:

I can vouch for that.

The q for the cafe was a continuous 15/20 deep.

Decent bacon sanny and latte.

Possibly being whooshed but I thought it had burnt doon? 

[NEM]

1 minute ago, Sooper-hanz said:

Dublin, Dundee, Humberside. 

“Celtic get battered, everywhere they go, everywhere they go”

?

[Redforever86]

9 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

MT predicts a riot !

MT predicts a riot !

Watching the people get lairy
It's not very pretty I tell thee
Walking through town is quite scary
It's not very sensible either
A friend of a friend got the nineteen
He looked the wrong way unmasked at a teen
Would never have happened to DAYTS
Never forgets his mask...

[Joe pike]

9 minutes ago, NEM said:

Possibly being whooshed but I thought it had burnt doon? 

There was a fire in the cafe.Still shut.

It was the kiosk beside it I was referring to.

Same folk.

[NEM]

5 minutes ago, Joe pike said:

There was a fire in the cafe.Still shut.

It was the kiosk beside it I was referring to.

Same folk.

??
 

Shame the cafe was nice after the refurb

[redstrummer]

18 minutes ago, NEM said:

Possibly being whooshed but I thought it had burnt doon? 

there's a smaller one next to it