Parklife Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said: Not having a pop Parky but the lady in that story does have an underlying respiratory condition. Yeah. I did almost add "apart from the asthma" but I felt it would be superfluous given I'd already said the person I know has no underlying issues. Just now, cheesepipes said: You would enjoy a hot dose(black mans sperm) of physics up your resistance(anal canal). Thanks for the recommendation. I've never tried it but if you have and are recommending it, I'm sure it's ace. You are breaking the "what happens in Africa, stays in Africa" code though. 1 Link to comment
Guest the shepherd Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said: Not having a pop Parky but the lady in that story does have an underlying respiratory condition. Not an underlying condition min, she had been already diagnosed with asthma. An underlying condition relates to a condition which has yet to be investigated, identified and diagnosed by a certified medical professional. With having asthma, she is/was classed as being "clinically, extremely vulnerable", therefore being more at risk and susceptible of catching symptoms of the virus, or the virus itself. As for having a go at the parademics for allegedly "refusing to enter her property" to attend to her, fucking classless. I am sure the money she'll receive from the BBC and other media outlets, describing her "plight", will soften the blow. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, the shepherd said: Not an underlying condition min, she had been already diagnosed with asthma. An underlying condition relates to a condition which has yet to be investigated, identified and diagnosed by a certified medical professional Nope. An underlying health condition is a chronic or long-term illness, which in turn weakens the immune system. "This refers to a medical problem that is usually chronic or significant, and which usually requires long-term treatment," Dr Henderson says. 1 1 Link to comment
thedandydon Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said: I thought underlying meant the same as pre-existing which complicated and worsened the reaction to Covid19? Happy to be corrected if Im wrong. Correct. Bit of a stange article that, states that around 300k have reported long lasting symptoms from covid. The UK's total figure for cases is just under 400k. Not denying the existance of 'long-covid' but 75% of all sufferers? Something doesnt sit right with paramedics telling someone in respiratory distress its not worth their time because they're young. ? Yesterdays Valance and Whitty double act was a complete shambles. How are they coming to the conclusions that they are? A quick look at the French and Spanish figures that they refferred to showed no such doubling trend. They seem to be at odds with the actual 'science' they puport to follow. No-one was allowed to question them either which is quite telling. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said: I thought underlying meant the same as pre-existing which complicated and worsened the reaction to Covid19? Happy to be corrected if Im wrong. It does mean that Link to comment
Parklife Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, thedandydon said: Correct. Bit of a stange article that, states that around 300k have reported long lasting symptoms from covid. The UK's total figure for cases is just under 400k. Not denying the existance of 'long-covid' but 75% of all sufferers? I'd imagine it's going by suspected and confirmed cases. Only a small percentage of people who've had Covid will have been tested. 400k as a percentage of the UK would be 0.006% of the population. However serology studies show the likely infection rate closer to 5% (which would be around 3.25m) 2 Link to comment
DD1903 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 If underlying health conditions refer to conditions that haven't been diagnosed, then how can those with serious underlying conditions that they don't know they have be advised as per below!? Lolz https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51997151 When lockdown began, certain people were advised to take extra steps - or shield - to avoid contracting Covid-19, because they were considered more at risk of needing hospital treatment. Shielding has now been paused everywhere in the UK, except in some parts of England where infection rates remain higher. Why is shielding ending? Infection levels in the community are generally now much lower than they were a few months ago, so the risk of exposure is significantly less than it has been. People will no longer have to "stay at home" and follow shielding guidelines , although they are advised to take particular care when outside, and maintain strict social distancing. Do I have to stop shielding? For some people this will be welcome news, while others will be understandably anxious. Shielding was never compulsory and it is still your choice to decide what you are comfortable about doing - you may still want to spend a lot of time at home, for example. If possible, take things at your own pace and talk through any worries you have. The relaxation of the rules allows those who have been shielding to see more people, enjoy the summer and be more active. Experts strongly advise people with serious underlying health conditions to follow social distancing recommendations - keep 2m away from other people outside your home and, whenever possible, limit the number of people you meet, shops you visit, and non-essential journeys. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Parklife said: I'd imagine it's going by suspected and confirmed cases. Only a small percentage of people who've had Covid will have been tested. 400k as a percentage of the UK would be 0.006% of the population. However serology studies show the likely infection rate closer to 5% (which would be around 3.25m) You need a calculator Link to comment
thedandydon Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I doubt all these older victims with 'underlying' conditions being reported are suddnely discovering they have other long standing health conditions upon catching the COVID's. Would assume it could be applied to both meanings but primarily in the context of having pre-existing conditions, rightly of wrongly. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said: DD, It's because they are using the term wrong and should write' pre-exisiting'. Who is? The NHS, CDC etc? Link to comment
zander Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 27 minutes ago, thedandydon said: Correct. Bit of a stange article that, states that around 300k have reported long lasting symptoms from covid. The UK's total figure for cases is just under 400k. Not denying the existance of 'long-covid' but 75% of all sufferers? Something doesnt sit right with paramedics telling someone in respiratory distress its not worth their time because they're young. ? Yesterdays Valance and Whitty double act was a complete shambles. How are they coming to the conclusions that they are? A quick look at the French and Spanish figures that they refferred to showed no such doubling trend. They seem to be at odds with the actual 'science' they puport to follow. No-one was allowed to question them either which is quite telling. The tide is turning amongst the MSM on this one now. Andrew Neil got ripped into them today. Link to comment
minijc Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said: Good to hear. Neil is a love hate figure. I love that sometimes he has courage. I hate that he sometimes he licks arse. Most of all I hate his lack of humility and how he thinks he's right all the time. So yeah, he's an arse. Named in the flight logs to ol Epos island. Link to comment
Parklife Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 32 minutes ago, manboobs109 said: You need a calculator Pretty sure my arithmetic is correct. Happy to have a mistake highlighted if there is one though. 1 Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Parklife said: Pretty sure my arithmetic is correct. Happy to have a mistake highlighted if there is one though. 400k is 0.006% of the population? Link to comment
Foster14 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, manboobs109 said: 400k is 0.006% of the population? Haha, noticed this but couldn't be bothered being a pedant at the time. 0.6% or 0.006, but not combined. It would suggest 1 in 10 get long covid or whatever it is called. Link to comment
Foster14 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Is @The Buzzard going to give us our usual scoop on the changes coming?! Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Foster14 said: Haha, noticed this but couldn't be bothered being a pedant at the time. 0.6% or 0.006, but not combined. It would suggest 1 in 10 get long covid or whatever it is called. I just thought someone with such expertise in physics might have a scientific calculator handy, or a better grip of percentages. 3 Link to comment
The Boofon Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, manboobs109 said: I just thought someone with such expertise in physics might have a scientific calculator handy, or a better grip of percentages. What he pointed out to you is basic physics. Hardly the mark of a professor. 1 Link to comment
The Buzzard Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Foster14 said: Is @The Buzzard going to give us our usual scoop on the changes coming?! Will be doing my best. @Foster14 Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Boofon said: What he pointed out to you is basic physics. Hardly the mark of a professor. My thinking was more that the behaviour of viruses and microbes was more the science of biology but what do I know. Link to comment
Guest the shepherd Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, DD1903 said: If underlying health conditions refer to conditions that haven't been diagnosed, then how can those with serious underlying conditions that they don't know they have be advised as per below!? Lolz https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51997151 When lockdown began, certain people were advised to take extra steps - or shield - to avoid contracting Covid-19, because they were considered more at risk of needing hospital treatment. Shielding has now been paused everywhere in the UK, except in some parts of England where infection rates remain higher. Why is shielding ending? Infection levels in the community are generally now much lower than they were a few months ago, so the risk of exposure is significantly less than it has been. People will no longer have to "stay at home" and follow shielding guidelines , although they are advised to take particular care when outside, and maintain strict social distancing. Do I have to stop shielding? For some people this will be welcome news, while others will be understandably anxious. Shielding was never compulsory and it is still your choice to decide what you are comfortable about doing - you may still want to spend a lot of time at home, for example. If possible, take things at your own pace and talk through any worries you have. The relaxation of the rules allows those who have been shielding to see more people, enjoy the summer and be more active. Experts strongly advise people with serious underlying health conditions to follow social distancing recommendations - keep 2m away from other people outside your home and, whenever possible, limit the number of people you meet, shops you visit, and non-essential journeys. A good mate of mine, who does not like going to the doctor's (phobia, dislike, etc.) became seriously ill in early July. At the time of becoming unwell he was admitted to ARI with an unknown, underlying condition. It was apparent he was in a very bad way but couldn't be sure what it was with at that point in time. However, upon receiving thorough medical examinations from specialist doctors, it was identified that he had, therefore ultimately diagnosed with COPD, heart fibrillation and a serious sleep disorder. He now no longer had an underlying condition as his illness was now identified and diagnosed. My point being that if a condition that you may or may not have is not investigated by a GP or specialist doctor. then thereafter identified and diagnosed, it will be classed as underlying until it is detected and appropriate treatment administered forthwith. If it wasn't for my pal's missus's intervention, coupled with his aversion of getting medical help, the chances are he wouldn't be here today and the cause of death may have wrongly defined as Coronavirus related. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, manboobs109 said: My thinking was more that the behaviour of viruses and microbes was more the science of biology but what do I know. Correct thinking however the speed and distance that a sneeze or cough releases saliva was the subject matter. Basic physics. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, the shepherd said: A good mate of mine, who does not like going to the doctor's (phobia, dislike, etc.) became seriously ill in early July. At the time of becoming unwell he was admitted to ARI with an unknown, underlying condition. It was apparent he was in a very bad way but couldn't be sure what it was with at that point in time. However, upon receiving thorough medical examinations from specialist doctors, it was identified that he had, therefore ultimately diagnosed with COPD, heart fibrillation and a serious sleep disorder. He now no longer had an underlying condition as his illness was now identified and diagnosed. My point being that if a condition that you may or may not have is not investigated by a GP or specialist doctor. then thereafter identified and diagnosed, it will be classed as underlying until it is detected and appropriate treatment administered forthwith. If it wasn't for my pal's missus's intervention, coupled with his aversion of getting medical help, the chances are he wouldn't be here today and the cause of death may have wrongly defined as Coronavirus related. I get the point you were making, I just disagree is all. Link to comment
Guest the shepherd Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, DD1903 said: I get the point you were making, I just disagree is all. Fair enough min, we will beg to differ on this one. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Parklife said: The distance an object travels is directly proportionate to the resistance it meets. If you add resistance (a face covering) you'll reduce the distance travelled. Physics. @manboobs109 Just for clarity here. Nothing biology related at all in this. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liIlW-ovx0Y Link to comment
Fridge Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Restrictions not getting announced till 8pm apparently Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, The Boofon said: @manboobs109 Just for clarity here. Nothing biology related at all in this. Just for clarity there was plenty biology related in the post I answered originally Link to comment
tutankamun Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Fridge said: Restrictions not getting announced till 8pm apparently 8.05 for Nicola Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, tutankamun said: 8.05 for Nicola Will there be a stream? Link to comment
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