maryhilldon Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 41 minutes ago, Parklife said: However, if folk aren't prepared/able to stay home for two weeks when asked, then they shouldn't be going to the pub in the first place. You've lost the plot. 1 Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, minijc said: From all I've read the 2m distance in an indoor setting won't keep people safe as the virus can stay in the air for up to 14hrs they reckon now and can remain on steel surfaces for up to 48hrs, I'd imagine the majority of places are giving everything a right good clean so should be fine. Also read that less than 2m for 5mins is enough for a dose to passed on to someone. But the guidelines are 2m for 15 mins hence the cock and bull (which we are speaking about in this instance) don't need to inform anybody. That is based on the assumption that nobody is spending over 15 mins face to face with another in the toilet and that people are taking personal responsibility and using the sanitising station at the toilet doors. And it's also the reason why not everybody who was in the same bars will get a message from track and trace. Link to comment
BrianFaePerth Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, Parklife said: If I'd been within 2m of someone for more than 15 minutes, as per the guidelines, yeah. If you say so MHD. I Just don't want to be responsible for killing your or anyone else's parents tbh. Would you grass on someone who didn’t? Link to comment
Parklife Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, BrianFaePerth said: Would you grass on someone who didn’t? Define "grass". Would I be informing everyone in my workplace if it was a colleague - yes. Would I be telling the authorities - no. 1 Link to comment
minijc Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, dazzy_deff said: But the guidelines are 2m for 15 mins hence the cock and bull (which we are speaking about in this instance) don't need to inform anybody. That is based on the assumption that nobody is spending over 15 mins face to face with another in the toilet and that people are taking personal responsibility and using the sanitising station at the toilet doors. And it's also the reason why not everybody who was in the same bars will get a message from track and trace. Aye I get that, I'm just putting up the info I've read. Link to comment
Studebaker-90 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 You can’t in the same breath complain about pubs shutting down if you’re not willing to isolate if you’ve been told to by the track and trace system. Link to comment
BigInnes Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 I grassed on my elderly neighbour not long into the lockdown - back when you could only go out once a day. He hadn't left his house for days and, eventually, ventured out to go shopping, presumably. I rang the police and said this was the fourth time he had left the house that day - I also took a photo of him and shamed him on Facebook and Instagram. 3 Link to comment
BrianFaePerth Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Parklife said: Define "grass". Would I be informing everyone in my workplace if it was a colleague - yes. Would I be telling the authorities - no. For me even informing on colleagues would be a grass. Poor show parky. Link to comment
For Fecks Sake Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, BigInnes said: I grassed on my elderly neighbour not long into the lockdown - back when you could only go out once a day. He hadn't left his house for days and, eventually, ventured out to go shopping, presumably. I rang the police and said this was the fourth time he had left the house that day - I also took a photo of him and shamed him on Facebook and Instagram. Everyone look at me aren't I edgy. Fud. Link to comment
For Fecks Sake Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 The authorities need to step up helping companies providing useful and relevant facts. The letter issued to members of a golf club in Aberdeen states that "someone with COVID-19" had been in the golf club but they would not say what date and time this relates to and simply states within the "last 10 days". Not exactly helpful. Link to comment
minijc Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, For Fecks Sake said: The authorities need to step up helping companies providing useful and relevant facts. The letter issued to members of a golf club in Aberdeen states that "someone with COVID-19" had been in the golf club but they would not say what date and time this relates to and simply states within the "last 10 days". Not exactly helpful. Pretty sure that's on the club cos McNastys had one up last night gave the day and exact time frame the person was in the bar. Link to comment
jamiesd Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Anyone point me towards the BLM protest deaths they were saying was going to happen? Link to comment
Studebaker-90 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, BigInnes said: I grassed on my elderly neighbour not long into the lockdown - back when you could only go out once a day. He hadn't left his house for days and, eventually, ventured out to go shopping, presumably. I rang the police and said this was the fourth time he had left the house that day - I also took a photo of him and shamed him on Facebook and Instagram. Did you kick his cunt in after for good measure? Link to comment
BrianFaePerth Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, jamiesd said: Anyone point me towards the BLM protest deaths they were saying was going to happen? The Australian health minister has said repeatedly the protests led to the Melbourne shambles, but this has since been discredited by parky. 1 Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Parklife said: I do agree to an extent and not every can "afford" to not work for two weeks. There should be better support for these being asked to isolate than the pitiful statutory sick pay. (Sick pay that is only at that level due to the war on perceived "spongers" claiming benefits over the past two decades - but that's another debate). However, if folk aren't prepared/able to stay home for two weeks when asked, then they shouldn't be going to the pub in the first place. I went to a beer garden on Saturday. Wasn't inside the pub at all. Didn't use the bathroom. Only thing I touched was the table and my glass. Kept my distance from people. Santitised my hands using the facilities there too. My risk would be minuscule, even if an infected person was there. Yet if asked to isolate and stay home, I would. Too many folk don't take personal responsibility. Not strictly true about ssp, that only affects people in work. The goalposts seem to have shifted slightly in trace and trace. The way it was initially explained if you were contacted you went for a test, if test was pos you isolate. Now it seems to have shifted to if contacted you isolate no matter what. Not sure this change was explained properly. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 So in theory a perfectly healthy person could be asked to isolate multiple times. It's not realistic I'm afraid. Link to comment
tutankamun Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, manboobs109 said: Not strictly true about ssp, that only affects people in work. The goalposts seem to have shifted slightly in trace and trace. The way it was initially explained if you were contacted you went for a test, if test was pos you isolate. Now it seems to have shifted to if contacted you isolate no matter what. Not sure this change was explained properly. yes, I think they are worried the test is taken during the incubation period of the virus, so would show negative A lot of paranoia going on in Aberdeen at the moment, I've seen a few messages like this on Facebook recently: Quote Kippie Sports & Country Club is feeling concerned. 1d · In light of the rise of cases in Grampian over the weekend, please may we ask you to read over the following - • Have you recently visited any of the affected bars/areas in Aberdeen, on or since the 25th of July? • Have you tested positive since your last visit? • Are you or anyone in your household, showing any symptoms of Covid-19? Please, if you have answered yes to any of the above we ask that you do not visit the Club. If you have a beauty or hair appointment booked please, in the absolute strictest of confidence, we would really appreciate if you can you give us a call on 01224 739905. The safety of our members, clients and staff is paramount. Thank you. I thought only 1 bar has been officially named by the government? and what do they mean by 'area'? Link to comment
RUL Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, starryfish said: Local lockdown in Aberdeen set to be announced at 1215 by the First Minister Surely not Link to comment
Tommy Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 I saw a load of pics of people in McNasty’s on Saturday, then it was announced that they had an issue and all pics and tagged people’s names were deleted. I wonder how many are self isolating. Link to comment
BigInnes Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 hour ago, For Fecks Sake said: Everyone look at me aren't I edgy. Fud. 45 minutes ago, Studebaker-90 said: Did you kick his cunt in after for good measure? Nah, left him be. Link to comment
starryfish Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Local lockdown in Aberdeen set to be announced at 1215 by the First Minister Link to comment
Guest milne_afc Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Zeus said: https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/2387347/nicola-sturgeon-expected-to-unveil-new-lockdown-measures-in-aberdeen-after-coronavirus-spike/ Fuck off ? Link to comment
Lencarl Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, starryfish said: Local lockdown in Aberdeen set to be announced at 1215 by the First Minister Rubbish. Link to comment
Zeus Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/politics/scottish-politics/2387347/nicola-sturgeon-expected-to-unveil-new-lockdown-measures-in-aberdeen-after-coronavirus-spike/ Fuck off Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53656852 Things not quite as bad as the panic merchants are making out it seems. Link to comment
Tommy Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 No travel over 5 miles from city. What a fuckin shambles. Link to comment
Parklife Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 64 new cases in last 24 hours, 36 in Grampian. 1 Link to comment
Parklife Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Pubs to shut at 5pm. Indoor and outdoor. Well done, lads. 2 1 Link to comment
Guest milne_afc Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Parklife said: Pubs to shut at 5pm. Indoor and outdoor. Well done, lads. Yip, bunch of idiots. Hope the Tory pubs go bust. Link to comment
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