Coronavirus

[Zeus]

1 hour ago, Poodler said:

You'll be glad to know the redistribution of your 6 monthly services have gone towards accumulating agency staff from other parts of the world to work in NHSG on 2 or 3 times the pay of the locals whilst foregoing the standards of NHS Scotland. 
 

I don't think the nhs will ever recover from Covid-19. And inquiries will expose the awful mismanagement for years to come. 
 

as someone mentioned above, the curtain twitching culture that has now become widespread is a real stain on society. 
 

England knocking 5000 off their death stats due to reclassifying deaths is farcical.

Hopefully we see a labour resurgence from this and the snp can get themselves to fuck 

Ffs. I've had no feedback at all. Could easily have done a zoom, sent me a blood and piss kit that I could've sent back.  There is a helluva lot worse off folk than me to be fair.  I just hope they aren't being ignored. 

The SNP are fucked in Aberdeen now I reckon. Good to see the council calling her out 

[Lencarl]

Aberdeen City Council say they will not support any further local lockdown measures imposed on Aberdeen by the Scottish Government past this Saturday.

How does this work then ?

[Zeus]

1 minute ago, tutankamun said:

Sturgeon doesn't have an army

Na, just a cult. 

[tutankamun]

10 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Na, just a cult. 

is that a typo?

[jamiesd]

Derek Whytes Barmy Army

[tutankamun]

7 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

The Army will be brought in .

Sturgeon doesn't have an army

[Howard Marks]

15 confirmed cases in Grampian. How many in Aberdeen City? Have those figures been released yet?

[Zeus]

11 minutes ago, tutankamun said:

is that a typo?

Hahaha

[daytripping]

22 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Ffs. I've had no feedback at all. Could easily have done a zoom, sent me a blood and piss kit that I could've sent back.  There is a helluva lot worse off folk than me to be fair.  I just hope they aren't being ignored. 

The SNP are fucked in Aberdeen now I reckon. Good to see the council calling her out 

She wibbled about borrowing powers, everything is political to her, she's a weasel.

[Parklife]

Just now, daytripping said:

She wibbled about borrowing powers, everything is political to her, she's a weasel.

Well, it's pretty obvious response to Stude's query about what funding measures are going to be introduced. 

A political answer to a political question ??

[tutankamun]

1 minute ago, Sooper-hanz said:

Of course she does . 

tartan army?

[manboobs109]

1 hour ago, minijc said:

Are you serious?  If so it's because the virus can take up to 14days to incubate, this has been talked about on here plenty of times before.

Yeah just pointing out it's not as simple as 'find out by taking a test' 

[manboobs109]

1 hour ago, Parklife said:

Ahhh. So you're controlling the virus, whilst also making healthy folk isolate, despite whinging like fuck about track and trace and healthy folk having to isolate. 

Totally logical. 

Nope. Bit of a misrepresentation there Parky. People self isolate if symptoms/positive test. Increase testing for staff dealing with the vulnerable. We have 'spare capacity' in Scotland just now apparently. 

[Foster14]

1 hour ago, manboobs109 said:

So why do people still have to isolate if they test negative? 

 

8 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Yeah just pointing out it's not as simple as 'find out by taking a test' 

It depends, there are two different things here.

A. If you have symptoms and have not been traced through "Test and Protect", then you do not need to self isolate after a negative test.  

B. If you have a test that comes back negative (symptoms or not), but you have been traced through "Test and Protect", then you do need to continue to self isolate.  

I think it is quite clear why there is a difference. 

In situation A, you may have one of many other illnesses that cause the symptom, and by being tested, you rule out Covid.  Back to normal you go.

In situation B, you are deemed to be at high risk having being traced from someone who is know to have Covid.  A negative test, doesn't mean that the risk has gone.  

[Zeus]

35 minutes ago, Howard Marks said:

15 confirmed cases in Grampian. How many in Aberdeen City? Have those figures been released yet?

City 8

Shire 3

For comparison 

Glasgow City 7

North Lanarkshire 3

 

[Foster14]

Actually, maybe I am wrong here, as I feel Scottish and UK government advice is different...

[Parklife]

18 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Nope. Bit of a misrepresentation there Parky. People self isolate if symptoms/positive test. Increase testing for staff dealing with the vulnerable. We have 'spare capacity' in Scotland just now apparently. 

Nah, that's not how it works. If people have been in contact with a positive test, they isolate. You were whinging like fuck that healthy people will have to isolate and that's exactly what the system leads to. 

Your Incessant whinging contradicts yourself at every turn.   

[daytripping]

30 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Well, it's pretty obvious response to Stude's query about what funding measures are going to be introduced. 

A political answer to a political question ??

She was asked if she would provide more help, she then moaned about borrowing powers, a clear dig at the Conservatives, her daily briefing should not be used for political reasons, it's the BBC funded by all license payers, the platform should be used for covid updates only.

She's clearly out of her depth, she'd never dream of locking Glasgow down, she even said she couldn't see further lockdowns happening, power trip doing it to Aberdeen. Group of young people get the flu, no hospital admissions, no deaths, bizarre she chooses to wreck the economy further.

[daytripping]

If the council won't support her after Saturday I'd presume we'll be able to ignore the advice and open things up again. We don't live in a dictatorship, if her guidance is wrong which this clearly is, it should just be ignored. I can get a beer in Westhill but not Bucksburn, makes no sense at all.

[daytripping]

2 minutes ago, daytripping said:

If the council won't support her after Saturday I'd presume we'll be able to ignore the advice and open things up again. We don't live in a dictatorship, if her guidance is wrong which this clearly is, it should just be ignored. I can get a beer in Westhill but not Bucksburn, makes no sense at all.

 

Looks like we're not the only council seeing through the sham of lockdown, the Oldham council leader puts it perfectly.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/warning-of-disaster-if-oldham-is-put-in-local-lockdown-heres-what-the-data-is-saying/ar-BB188zP6?ocid=ientp

 

[daytripping]

Just now, daytripping said:

 

Looks like we're not the only council seeing through the sham of lockdown, the Oldham council leader puts it perfectly.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/warning-of-disaster-if-oldham-is-put-in-local-lockdown-heres-what-the-data-is-saying/ar-BB188zP6?ocid=ientp

 

Had to quote myself to get round the strange time limit on this site.

[daytripping]

5 minutes ago, Lencarl said:

If the council ignore the government it will set a precedence which is not a good thing.

Give it one more week and I think it will be back to drinking in pubs.

On saying that why is the council turning Aberdeen City centre into one big beer garden.

 

 

 

 

One big beer garden or one big homeless location, I'll take the former. Beer gardens increase social distancing as well. Have heard Soul won't be reopening for a good while yet, suspect the council have had a word, that's all that was needed in the first place. If people were dying or getting seriously ill in huge numbers fair enough but they're not, we don't lockdown when people get the flu in Winter.

[Lencarl]

1 minute ago, daytripping said:

If the council won't support her after Saturday I'd presume we'll be able to ignore the advice and open things up again. We don't live in a dictatorship, if her guidance is wrong which this clearly is, it should just be ignored. I can get a beer in Westhill but not Bucksburn, makes no sense at all.

If the council ignore the government it will set a precedence which is not a good thing.

Give it one more week and I think it will be back to drinking in pubs.

On saying that why is the council turning Aberdeen City centre into one big beer garden.

 

 

 

 

[Howard Marks]

34 minutes ago, Zeus said:

City 8

Shire 3

For comparison 

Glasgow City 7

North Lanarkshire 3

 

It's like a football score.

Seek Covid and you shall find.

[Fridge]

2 hours ago, Poodler said:

You'll be glad to know the redistribution of your 6 monthly services have gone towards accumulating agency staff from other parts of the world to work in NHSG on 2 or 3 times the pay of the locals whilst foregoing the standards of NHS Scotland. 
 

I don't think the nhs will ever recover from Covid-19. And inquiries will expose the awful mismanagement for years to come. 
 

as someone mentioned above, the curtain twitching culture that has now become widespread is a real stain on society. 
 

England knocking 5000 off their death stats due to reclassifying deaths is farcical.

Hopefully we see a labour resurgence from this and the snp can get themselves to fuck 

Doubt anyone in Aberdeen will vote SNP again after this. What a stupid ginger bint.

[manboobs109]

26 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Nah, that's not how it works. If people have been in contact with a positive test, they isolate. You were whinging like fuck that healthy people will have to isolate and that's exactly what the system leads to. 

Your Incessant whinging contradicts yourself at every turn.   

Yeah and I'm saying you shouldn't have to isolate unless you've had a positive test or have symptoms. People who have negative tests or don't have symptoms shouldn't have to isolate. 

Not sure why you're not getting what I'm suggesting tbh. 

[manboobs109]

40 minutes ago, Foster14 said:

 

It depends, there are two different things here.

A. If you have symptoms and have not been traced through "Test and Protect", then you do not need to self isolate after a negative test.  

B. If you have a test that comes back negative (symptoms or not), but you have been traced through "Test and Protect", then you do need to continue to self isolate.  

I think it is quite clear why there is a difference. 

In situation A, you may have one of many other illnesses that cause the symptom, and by being tested, you rule out Covid.  Back to normal you go.

In situation B, you are deemed to be at high risk having being traced from someone who is know to have Covid.  A negative test, doesn't mean that the risk has gone.  

What is you have a cold but Covid is dormant and doesn't show up in the test? Isolate. Every road leads to isolate so it's pointless doing the test iyam

[Guest the shepherd]

2 hours ago, Foster14 said:

Don't you actually get tested if you have one of those symptoms to find out if you have it, rather than just deciding it is the case?

I was led to believe that part of the track and trace protocol was to get tested as part of the procedure. Surely, if the virus is so potent and deadly as the politicians, media and the do-good know fuck-alls would have you believe, you would contract the virus instantly and deteriorate rapidly, therefore whilst a test would perhaps prove confirmation of the existence of the virus, it's not beneficial in terms of improving health. A bit like if bitten and envenomated by a black mamba, I presume. Only theory though. 

[Simply Red]

23 minutes ago, the shepherd said:

I was led to believe that part of the track and trace protocol was to get tested as part of the procedure. Surely, if the virus is so potent and deadly as the politicians, media and the do-good know fuck-alls would have you believe, you would contract the virus instantly and deteriorate rapidly, therefore whilst a test would perhaps prove confirmation of the existence of the virus, it's not beneficial in terms of improving health. A bit like if bitten and envenomated by a black mamba, I presume. Only theory though. 

Said on here a few times, the missus and i tested positive for it. both asymptomatic. Shes a nurse so got tested as a precaution and she had it. Our 18month old loon was too young to get tested but im assuming he had it too and asymptomatic. 

[Zeus]

40 minutes ago, Howard Marks said:

It's like a football score.

Seek Covid and you shall find.

Also 8 in Dundee.