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Sorry but why the fuck are we putting up with this complete ineptitude and lack of leadership? Somethings got to give surely, that’s a government not fit for purpose. Same as those cunts in Westminster, just making things up as they go. I’ve never been as convinced as I am now just to ignore everything they say and live my life as freely as possible, flouting every single restriction imposed upon us by these charlatans. Fight it don’t.

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3 minutes ago, Studebaker-90 said:

Sorry but why the fuck are we putting up with this complete ineptitude and lack of leadership? Somethings got to give surely, that’s a government not fit for purpose. Same as those cunts in Westminster, just making things up as they go. I’ve never been as convinced as I am now just to ignore everything they say and live my life as freely as possible, flouting every single restriction imposed upon us by these charlatans. Fight it don’t.

@covid police

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10 minutes ago, BrianFaePerth said:

Even Sky News reporting today that while case numbers are up, deaths are still near zero.

 

A casedemic just as Paddy reported.

 

The pandemic is over, but governments need to maintain their grip.

Mini will be along shortly to tell you 3 geriatrics croaked yesterday so we need to ramp up the lockdown 

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3 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Now now. Some people might speculate that, or that she's just a hypochondriac, but mini reckons the long term effects are horrific. 

He's probably right, I once caught another strain of this flu, had a runny nose and cough for a good fortnight, really went through the mill. If it wasn't for Covonia I'm not sure I'd have pulled through.

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Its noticable that the rhetoric is very much about rising cases, long term effects and short term immunity, as opposed to the consistantly low death rates and hospitalisations. The media seems to revel in these doom-mongering reports whilst casually overlooking the positives.
There's now mass hysteria about testing in some parts because anyone contracting so much as common cold feel obligated to get tested becuase schools and the likes are being massively over-cautious. Had to get our youngest tested after he picked up my cold and his school questioned why id sent him in with such a devestating illness. Was 99% convinced it was a sniffle but it was either keep him off for days or provide evidence that he wasn't a mini covid grenade set to take out half his class.
 

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22 minutes ago, thedandydon said:

Its noticable that the rhetoric is very much about rising cases, long term effects and short term immunity, as opposed to the consistantly low death rates and hospitalisations. The media seems to revel in these doom-mongering reports whilst casually overlooking the positives.
There's now mass hysteria about testing in some parts because anyone contracting so much as common cold feel obligated to get tested becuase schools and the likes are being massively over-cautious. Had to get our youngest tested after he picked up my cold and his school questioned why id sent him in with such a devestating illness. Was 99% convinced it was a sniffle but it was either keep him off for days or provide evidence that he wasn't a mini covid grenade set to take out half his class.
 

Great Post. A plus 1 from me

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57 minutes ago, daytripping said:

I thought hospitals were being closed as they were being overrun, mini said on here, must have been true.

 

Turns out we could fit all the patients into Insch hospital and have spare beds. :hysterical:

LOOOOOL, picking up on something I said in May and June and at the time hospitals were being shut but lets nae let facts get in the way of you making a cunt of yourself, AGAIN!

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33 minutes ago, thedandydon said:

Its noticable that the rhetoric is very much about rising cases, long term effects and short term immunity, as opposed to the consistantly low death rates and hospitalisations. The media seems to revel in these doom-mongering reports whilst casually overlooking the positives.
There's now mass hysteria about testing in some parts because anyone contracting so much as common cold feel obligated to get tested becuase schools and the likes are being massively over-cautious. Had to get our youngest tested after he picked up my cold and his school questioned why id sent him in with such a devestating illness. Was 99% convinced it was a sniffle but it was either keep him off for days or provide evidence that he wasn't a mini covid grenade set to take out half his class.
 

Testing centres have been shut down, capacity cut and labs backed up, it isn't because anyone with a slight cold is going off for a test, that's what they want you to believe.

 

Also if we aren't supposed to care about 3000+ new cases a day then what do we do?  just let them run free, stop reporting on it and hope it goes away?  

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3 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

As "paddy", Ivor Cummins pointed out, the casedemic isn't everything it purports to be.

An increase in testing is obviously going to find more "cases" but is the testing good enough to differentiate between Covi 19 and other coronaviruses (and even rhinoviruses) of which the common cold and flu may test positive? We learned that even non-transmissable cases and antibodies of the remnants of a past infection are being detected.

Is all this worth the continuation of wrecking the economy? The measures need to be proportionate to the threat. Until we start seeing the population who are not old and vulnerable being hospitalised (let alone dying) from Covid 19 in particular, it should be business as usual. The eradication of basic human rights and killing communities and pubs etc. can not possibly be a reasonable outcome for the real danger faced.

 

That's not true, more tests does not mean more positives, it's also clear that the virus is way more prevalent in English communities now than what's being reported due to the the huge back log in tests.

 

As for wrecking the economy, it's a bubble they come and go, plenty were forecasting a big recession to hit the UK this year anyways, Covid has sped that up a bit, maybe we should just stop giving a fuck and let the virus run free, have stacks of deaths again then blame the people in charge for not getting it under control.

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35 minutes ago, minijc said:

Testing centres have been shut down, capacity cut and labs backed up, it isn't because anyone with a slight cold is going off for a test, that's what they want you to believe.

Also if we aren't supposed to care about 3000+ new cases a day then what do we do?  just let them run free, stop reporting on it and hope it goes away?  

I'm sure theres many contributing factors but its literally what we did, and are aware of a few others in his class that have done similair. No positive tests recorded but probably a waste of resources. Can't imagine the situation isn't similar elsewhere. Some schools are sending home entire year groups if one kid tests positive. Are you telling me there aren't panicked parents out there battering at their keyboards to get a test for their otherwise healthy child 'just in case'?

Rising cases is good news in my opinion, boosts herd immunity which combined with a vaccine is the only way out of this, but even that won't prevent the suseptible from dying, in the same way flu has done and will continue to do so. The sooner we accept the risk and return to normal the better as we're building up a tsunami of other health problems on the back of this.

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31 minutes ago, minijc said:

Testing centres have been shut down, capacity cut and labs backed up, it isn't because anyone with a slight cold is going off for a test, that's what they want you to believe.

 

Also if we aren't supposed to care about 3000+ new cases a day then what do we do?  just let them run free, stop reporting on it and hope it goes away?  

That's exactly what we should have done all along!! if it wasn't for the press how many people would really know a flu virus was out there?

I've said it many times, pre social media days this wouldn't have been the big deal the government has made it out to be, we would never have shut down anything.

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9 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

Maybe the great mind that is Donald Trump was wrong then?

I thought it might be obvious that if you test more, you're going to find more. The proportion of infected to tests is now what they're looking at, correctly, but none of this detracts from my central point, that the measures being imposed are stupid, unduly restrictive, counterproductive, unintelligent and hugely damaging to life, health, community and wealth. Not to mention that I don't think they're even able to test properly.

Here's one example on why more tests doesn't necessarily equal more positive results

 https://twitter.com/NYGovCuomo/status/1293173072602836992?s=20

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5 minutes ago, daytripping said:

That's exactly what we should have done all along!! if it wasn't for the press how many people would really know a flu virus was out there?

I've said it many times, pre social media days this wouldn't have been the big deal the government has made it out to be, we would never have shut down anything.

So we should have just ignored this, pretended it didn't exist and we should've kept the country open and allow many more to die, righto, great idea, you'd have loved that though as you'd have been shouting for the SNP/Sturgeon to be jailed for allowing all the bodies to stack up.

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8 minutes ago, thedandydon said:

I'm sure theres many contributing factors but its literally what we did, and are aware of a few others in his class that have done similair. No positive tests recorded but probably a waste of resources. Can't imagine the situation isn't similar elsewhere. Some schools are sending home entire year groups if one kid tests positive. Are you telling me there aren't panicked parents out there battering at their keyboards to get a test for their otherwise healthy child 'just in case'?

Rising cases is good news in my opinion, boosts herd immunity which combined with a vaccine is the only way out of this, but even that won't prevent the suseptible from dying, in the same way flu has done and will continue to do so. The sooner we accept the risk and return to normal the better as we're building up a tsunami of other health problems on the back of this.

The UK government boats of having a world beating test track and trace system, by now it should be able to cope with this but here we are again seeing them exposed for being the charlatans they are.  Personally I think it makes more sense to get as many as possible tested, especially if they are showing symptoms because if you don't test them and those people continue their 'normal' day to day only to actually have the virus they have then helped spread it even more.  I completely get that some will have colds and bugs but surely it's best to be on the safe side especially when Kawasaki disease can destroy a child. 

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