Coronavirus

[Zeus]

That's it. Let folk make choices.  You'll get folk terrified to leave their bedroom and others wanting to get on with life, use a bit of common sense etc. 

 

[Geoff_Tipps]

So basically lock the vulnerable away so that everyone else can live a normal life? 

[Geoff_Tipps]

Surely the best solution is folk stick to the simple guidelines provided? Failing to do so will just bring tighter restrictions for all.

 

We are now at the point where travel restrictions and curfews are inevitable, which is fucking annoying and was completely avoidable if it wasn't for a selfish minority that don't like being told what to do.

 

 

 

 

[dazzy_deff]

12 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

Sounds like a good solution with one addition, there are plenty folk classed as the most vulnerable my dad included that are also sick if all this nonsense and would be happy to take their chances and get back to living a normal life.

Let your old man rock on then. Old enough to make his own decisions. 

[manboobs109]

9 minutes ago, Geoff_Tipps said:

Surely the best solution is folk stick to the simple guidelines provided? Failing to do so will just bring tighter restrictions for all.

 

We are now at the point where travel restrictions and curfews are inevitable, which is fucking annoying and was completely avoidable if it wasn't for a selfish minority that don't like being told what to do.

 

 

 

 

No one has any idea that if we'd had 100% following the 'simple guidelines' we'd be in any different situation than we are now. 

The facilities are all in place for people to shield so let them crack on. We can keep all the masks, sanitiser, screens etc and I think it's fair to ask people who have symptoms to self isolate (with financial support) but keeping families apart, ruining weddings, funerals, people missing their child's birth, the last moments of loved ones all has to stop and the powers taken back from the police. 

[manboobs109]

24 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

Sounds like a good solution with one addition, there are plenty folk classed as the most vulnerable my dad included that are also sick if all this nonsense and would be happy to take their chances and get back to living a normal life.

All the old folk I know just want to carry on with life. 

[Zeus]

I think the "selfish minority" is a weak argument. The vast majority stuck to it.  What an incredibly blame culture society we bide in..... Medias fault 

Probably more to do with when you open up and testing a hell of a lot more (a body with the sniffles is apparently booking a test).  The whole thing is a shit show, 6 months down the line. 

Similarly my 90 odd year old grunny would probably rather take the risk and see her family than be locked up at home with nae visitors again for weeks on end. 

[DelMonte]

The selfish minority are the cunts who want to keep going with restrictions. 

[Zeus]

5 minutes ago, DelMonte said:

The selfish minority are the cunts who want to keep going with restrictions. 

Totally. 

+1

[aberdeen1970]

8 minutes ago, DelMonte said:

The selfish minority are the cunts who want to keep going with restrictions. 

Well said.  

 

 

[Guest milne_afc]

I just want a party with a happy atmosphere. 

[minijc]

11 hours ago, Millertime said:

People die all the time 

Anyone who was going to die, died 

You're such a moron cesc.

[Geoff_Tipps]

1 hour ago, manboobs109 said:

No one has any idea that if we'd had 100% following the 'simple guidelines' we'd be in any different situation than we are now. 

The facilities are all in place for people to shield so let them crack on. We can keep all the masks, sanitiser, screens etc and I think it's fair to ask people who have symptoms to self isolate (with financial support) but keeping families apart, ruining weddings, funerals, people missing their child's birth, the last moments of loved ones all has to stop and the powers taken back from the police. 

I agree with this completely, I don't want tougher restrictions, trust me. All I want is to be able to pop over to my parents and see them indoors or outdoors when I want. In order to do this I have made a decision not to go to pubs, restaurants etc since pre March. I have also been following the rules throughout. Unfortunately it's looking increasingly likely that come next week I will not be able to see and support them.

 

I think it would be naive to think that we are where we are because people haven't broken the rules or are you suggesting the people following the guidance are the reason cases are increasing?

 

 

 

[The Cockney Don]

2 minutes ago, Geoff_Tipps said:

I agree with this completely, I don't want tougher restrictions, trust me. All I want is to be able to pop over to my parents and see them indoors or outdoors when I want. In order to do this I have made a decision not to go to pubs, restaurants etc since pre March. I have also been following the rules throughout. Unfortunately it's looking increasingly likely that come next week I will not be able to see and support them.

 

I think it would be naive to think that we are where we are because people haven't broken the rules or are you suggesting the guidelines in place aren't helping?

 

Nice one Geoff.

[manboobs109]

7 minutes ago, Geoff_Tipps said:

I agree with this completely, I don't want tougher restrictions, trust me. All I want is to be able to pop over to my parents and see them indoors or outdoors when I want. In order to do this I have made a decision not to go to pubs, restaurants etc since pre March. I have also been following the rules throughout. Unfortunately it's looking increasingly likely that come next week I will not be able to see and support them.

 

I think it would be naive to think that we are where we are because people haven't broken the rules or are you suggesting the people following the guidance are the reason cases are increasing?

 

 

 

I'm saying they are increasing because we are returning to normal, as we should be. Its an infectious virus, it will spread between people, there is nothing that can be done about that now. All that can happen is slowing it down and it depends on your viewpoint whether you think slowing it down is worth the pain involved 

[Guest milne_afc]

Whatever happens this week re:LD2(it'll be phrased differently), it's going to come with added nastiness and division. 

It'll be made a cunt of. 

[Zeus]

"circuit breaker" 

Who comes away with this shite. That drip Chris Whitty? 

[Geoff_Tipps]

1 hour ago, Zeus said:

I think the "selfish minority" is a weak argument. The vast majority stuck to it.  What an incredibly blame culture society we bide in..... Medias fault 

Probably more to do with when you open up and testing a hell of a lot more (a body with the sniffles is apparently booking a test).  The whole thing is a shit show, 6 months down the line. 

Similarly my 90 odd year old grunny would probably rather take the risk and see her family than be locked up at home with nae visitors again for weeks on end. 

So if someone knowingly has COVID-19 or has symptoms but decides not to self isolate as wants to go to pub, restaurant, office, shop isn't acting selfishly? 

[Zeus]

25 minutes ago, Geoff_Tipps said:

I agree with this completely, I don't want tougher restrictions, trust me. All I want is to be able to pop over to my parents and see them indoors or outdoors when I want. In order to do this I have made a decision not to go to pubs, restaurants etc since pre March. I have also been following the rules throughout. Unfortunately it's looking increasingly likely that come next week I will not be able to see and support them.

 

I think it would be naive to think that we are where we are because people haven't broken the rules or are you suggesting the people following the guidance are the reason cases are increasing?

 

 

 

If course they aren't  helping. I've also stuck to them btw. 

But as soon as you ease them it spreads. They'll Lockdown for a time it'll dwindle again and guess fit? When it opens up numbers will begin to creep up. 

So what's the answer. Wait for a vaccine, that still won't eradicate it? 

Continue to Lockdown and let masses suffer with depression, no access to other NHS services, unemployment?

What a time to be alive 

 

[Geoff_Tipps]

It is a shit show, there is no doubting that.

 

[Zeus]

8 minutes ago, Geoff_Tipps said:

So if someone knowingly has COVID-19 or has symptoms but decides not to self isolate as wants to go to pub, restaurant, office, shop isn't acting selfishly? 

That's nae what I said.  Of course that is selfish.  However I'd imagine they are in the tiny minority. 

What I said is, the minority that have broken the rules are not the cause of the thousands of new cases per day.   You csnt blame someone who doesn't know they have it for going to the shop or taking their kid to school and spreading it? Even if you stick to the rules it will still spread in these settings. 

 

Edit: looking back didn't explain it well 

 

 

[manboobs109]

9 minutes ago, milne_afc said:

Whatever happens this week re:LD2(it'll be phrased differently), it's going to come with added nastiness and division. 

It'll be made a cunt of. 

Yip. You can see it already, bizarrely the lack of tests is being blamed on people going for tests. 

[dervish]

6 minutes ago, Zeus said:

"circuit breaker" 

Who comes away with this shite. That drip Chris Whitty? 

It's doublespeak, obviously doublespeak.

 

They must now be at the point where they are getting through their day by betting each other on which obvious nonsense to drop into public announcements.

 

Our PM is king of it. Just a few minor japes.

 

Phase 20 will be the tide of musculoskeletal disorders now everyone has forgotten where their yoga mat is and is still working at the kitchen table; taking trips to the TV for breaks.

[CraigHill]

Jeane Freeman comes across as an illiterate drunk.

[Poodler]

The virus will just as likely have spread unwittingly through people who would've been distancing/ following protocols of the food establishments that were deemed acceptable to open without masks etc (a lol in itself tbh). Touching contaminated surfaces etc (in the small instance a viral load can survive there). It's opportunistic, it finds a way. like every other virus and bacteria on this planet. And it has as much right to be here as we do.

the morbid obsession with human life continues. Crashing the world economy and having us all in recession/ austerity for another generation for the sake of a few lives. It doesn't make sense to me. But I'm not a family man and never will be. 

G_T can you see them through the window etc? Is there avenues you can explore to bend 'the rules'? Bearing in mind who makes these rules, they're not designed for any compassion or reality 
 

 

[Poodler]

2 minutes ago, CraigHill said:

Jeane Freeman comes across as an illiterate drunk.

Is she tidy? Sounds like she could party with us tbh 

[minijc]

3 minutes ago, Bad_Mobby said:

The UK

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You done the right thing in escaping this hellhole of a place, all credit.

[CraigHill]

1 minute ago, Poodler said:

Is she tidy? Sounds like she could party with us tbh 

6 pints, and two whisky’s.

[Eugenefani]

The test that is being used to diagnose cases will never give us no positive cases. Virus particles in people’s bodies from many different virus’ are traced and will give a positive test result.... does this confirm the person has  “COVID-19” - does it fuck.  
 
 

[manboobs109]

2 minutes ago, minijc said:

You done the right thing in escaping this hellhole of a place, all credit.

We certainly lead the world in drama queens, that's for sure.