Coronavirus

[Parklife]

10 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

Not having a pop Parky but the lady in that story does have an underlying respiratory condition. 

Yeah. I did almost add "apart from the asthma" but I felt it would be superfluous given I'd already said the person I know has no underlying issues. 

Just now, cheesepipes said:

You would enjoy a hot dose(black mans sperm) of physics up your resistance(anal canal). 

Thanks for the recommendation. I've never tried it but if you have and are recommending it, I'm sure it's ace. You are breaking the "what happens in Africa, stays in Africa" code though. 

[Guest the shepherd]

20 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

Not having a pop Parky but the lady in that story does have an underlying respiratory condition. 

Not an underlying condition min, she had been already diagnosed with asthma.

An underlying condition relates to a condition which has yet to be investigated, identified and diagnosed by a certified medical professional.

With having asthma, she is/was classed as being "clinically, extremely vulnerable", therefore being more at risk and susceptible of catching symptoms of the virus, or the virus itself. 

As for having a go at the parademics for allegedly "refusing to enter her property" to attend to her, fucking classless. 

I am sure the money she'll receive from the BBC and other media outlets, describing her "plight", will soften the blow.

[DD1903]

12 minutes ago, the shepherd said:

Not an underlying condition min, she had been already diagnosed with asthma.

An underlying condition relates to a condition which has yet to be investigated, identified and diagnosed by a certified medical professional

Nope. 
 

An underlying health condition is a chronic or long-term illness, which in turn weakens the immune system. "This refers to a medical problem that is usually chronic or significant, and which usually requires long-term treatment," Dr Henderson says.

[thedandydon]

10 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

I thought underlying meant the same as pre-existing which complicated and worsened the reaction to Covid19?  Happy to be corrected if Im wrong. 

Correct.

Bit of a stange article that, states that around 300k have reported long lasting symptoms from covid. The UK's total figure for cases is just under 400k. Not denying the existance of 'long-covid' but 75% of all sufferers? Something doesnt sit right with paramedics telling someone in respiratory distress its not worth their time because they're young. ?

Yesterdays Valance and Whitty double act was a complete shambles. How are they coming to the conclusions that they are? A quick look at the French and Spanish figures that they refferred to showed no such doubling trend. They seem to be at odds with the actual 'science' they puport to follow. No-one was allowed to question them either which is quite telling.

[DD1903]

25 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

I thought underlying meant the same as pre-existing which complicated and worsened the reaction to Covid19?  Happy to be corrected if Im wrong. 

It does mean that 

[Parklife]

2 minutes ago, thedandydon said:

Correct.

Bit of a stange article that, states that around 300k have reported long lasting symptoms from covid. The UK's total figure for cases is just under 400k. Not denying the existance of 'long-covid' but 75% of all sufferers? 

I'd imagine it's going by suspected and confirmed cases. Only a small percentage of people who've had Covid will have been tested. 400k as a percentage of the UK would be 0.006% of the population. However serology studies show the likely infection rate closer to 5% (which would be around 3.25m)

[DD1903]

If underlying health conditions refer to conditions that haven't been diagnosed, then how can those with serious underlying conditions that they don't know they have be advised as per below!? Lolz
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51997151

When lockdown began, certain people were advised to take extra steps - or shield - to avoid contracting Covid-19, because they were considered more at risk of needing hospital treatment. 

Shielding has now been paused everywhere in the UK, except in some parts of England where infection rates remain higher. 

Why is shielding ending?

Infection levels in the community are generally now much lower than they were a few months ago, so the risk of exposure is significantly less than it has been.

People will no longer have to "stay at home" and follow shielding guidelines , although they are advised to take particular care when outside, and maintain strict social distancing. 

Do I have to stop shielding?

For some people this will be welcome news, while others will be understandably anxious.

Shielding was never compulsory and it is still your choice to decide what you are comfortable about doing - you may still want to spend a lot of time at home, for example. 

If possible, take things at your own pace and talk through any worries you have. 

The relaxation of the rules allows those who have been shielding to see more people, enjoy the summer and be more active. 

Experts strongly advise people with serious underlying health conditions to follow social distancing recommendations - keep 2m away from other people outside your home and, whenever possible, limit the number of people you meet, shops you visit, and non-essential journeys.

 

[manboobs109]

9 minutes ago, Parklife said:

I'd imagine it's going by suspected and confirmed cases. Only a small percentage of people who've had Covid will have been tested. 400k as a percentage of the UK would be 0.006% of the population. However serology studies show the likely infection rate closer to 5% (which would be around 3.25m)

You need a calculator

[thedandydon]

I doubt all these older victims with 'underlying' conditions being reported are suddnely discovering they have other long standing health conditions upon catching the COVID's. Would assume it could be applied to both meanings but primarily in the context of having pre-existing conditions, rightly of wrongly.

[DD1903]

7 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

DD, It's because they are using the term wrong and should write' pre-exisiting'. 

Who is? The NHS, CDC etc? 

[zander]

27 minutes ago, thedandydon said:

Correct.

Bit of a stange article that, states that around 300k have reported long lasting symptoms from covid. The UK's total figure for cases is just under 400k. Not denying the existance of 'long-covid' but 75% of all sufferers? Something doesnt sit right with paramedics telling someone in respiratory distress its not worth their time because they're young. ?

Yesterdays Valance and Whitty double act was a complete shambles. How are they coming to the conclusions that they are? A quick look at the French and Spanish figures that they refferred to showed no such doubling trend. They seem to be at odds with the actual 'science' they puport to follow. No-one was allowed to question them either which is quite telling.

The tide is turning amongst the MSM on this one now. Andrew Neil got ripped into them today.

[minijc]

2 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

Good to hear. Neil is a love hate figure. I love that sometimes he has courage. I hate that he sometimes he licks arse. Most of all I hate his lack of humility and how he thinks he's right all the time. So yeah, he's an arse. 

Named in the flight logs to ol Epos island.

[Parklife]

32 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

You need a calculator

Pretty sure my arithmetic is correct. Happy to have a mistake highlighted if there is one though. 

[manboobs109]

4 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Pretty sure my arithmetic is correct. Happy to have a mistake highlighted if there is one though. 

400k is 0.006% of the population? 

[Foster14]

3 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

400k is 0.006% of the population? 

Haha, noticed this but couldn't be bothered being a pedant at the time.  0.6% or 0.006, but not combined.  It would suggest 1 in 10 get long covid or whatever it is called.  

[Foster14]

Is @The Buzzard going to give us our usual scoop on the changes coming?!  

[manboobs109]

4 minutes ago, Foster14 said:

Haha, noticed this but couldn't be bothered being a pedant at the time.  0.6% or 0.006, but not combined.  It would suggest 1 in 10 get long covid or whatever it is called.  

I just thought someone with such expertise in physics might have a scientific calculator handy, or a better grip of percentages. 

[The Boofon]

2 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

I just thought someone with such expertise in physics might have a scientific calculator handy, or a better grip of percentages. 

What he pointed out to you is basic physics. Hardly the mark of a professor.

 

 

[The Buzzard]

10 minutes ago, Foster14 said:

Is @The Buzzard going to give us our usual scoop on the changes coming?!  

Will be doing my best. @Foster14

[manboobs109]

3 minutes ago, The Boofon said:

What he pointed out to you is basic physics. Hardly the mark of a professor.

 

 

My thinking was more that the behaviour of viruses and microbes was more the science of biology but what do I know. 

[Guest the shepherd]

1 hour ago, DD1903 said:

If underlying health conditions refer to conditions that haven't been diagnosed, then how can those with serious underlying conditions that they don't know they have be advised as per below!? Lolz
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51997151

When lockdown began, certain people were advised to take extra steps - or shield - to avoid contracting Covid-19, because they were considered more at risk of needing hospital treatment. 

Shielding has now been paused everywhere in the UK, except in some parts of England where infection rates remain higher. 

Why is shielding ending?

Infection levels in the community are generally now much lower than they were a few months ago, so the risk of exposure is significantly less than it has been.

People will no longer have to "stay at home" and follow shielding guidelines , although they are advised to take particular care when outside, and maintain strict social distancing. 

Do I have to stop shielding?

For some people this will be welcome news, while others will be understandably anxious.

Shielding was never compulsory and it is still your choice to decide what you are comfortable about doing - you may still want to spend a lot of time at home, for example. 

If possible, take things at your own pace and talk through any worries you have. 

The relaxation of the rules allows those who have been shielding to see more people, enjoy the summer and be more active. 

Experts strongly advise people with serious underlying health conditions to follow social distancing recommendations - keep 2m away from other people outside your home and, whenever possible, limit the number of people you meet, shops you visit, and non-essential journeys.

 

A good mate of mine, who does not like going to the doctor's (phobia, dislike, etc.) became seriously ill in early July. At the time of becoming unwell he was admitted to ARI with an unknown, underlying condition. It was apparent he was in a very bad way but couldn't be sure what it was with at that point in time. However, upon receiving thorough medical examinations from specialist doctors,  it was identified that he had, therefore ultimately diagnosed with COPD, heart fibrillation and a serious sleep disorder.  He now no longer had an underlying condition as his illness was now identified and diagnosed.

My point being that if a condition that you may or may not have is not investigated by a GP or specialist doctor. then thereafter identified and diagnosed, it will be classed as underlying until it is detected and appropriate treatment administered forthwith.

If it wasn't for my pal's missus's intervention, coupled with his aversion of getting medical help, the chances are he wouldn't be here today and the cause of death may have wrongly defined as Coronavirus related.

[The Boofon]

7 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

My thinking was more that the behaviour of viruses and microbes was more the science of biology but what do I know. 

 

Correct thinking however the speed and distance that a sneeze or cough releases saliva was the subject matter.

Basic physics.

[DD1903]

4 minutes ago, the shepherd said:

A good mate of mine, who does not like going to the doctor's (phobia, dislike, etc.) became seriously ill in early July. At the time of becoming unwell he was admitted to ARI with an unknown, underlying condition. It was apparent he was in a very bad way but couldn't be sure what it was with at that point in time. However, upon receiving thorough medical examinations from specialist doctors,  it was identified that he had, therefore ultimately diagnosed with COPD, heart fibrillation and a serious sleep disorder.  He now no longer had an underlying condition as his illness was now identified and diagnosed.

My point being that if a condition that you may or may not have is not investigated by a GP or specialist doctor. then thereafter identified and diagnosed, it will be classed as underlying until it is detected and appropriate treatment administered forthwith.

If it wasn't for my pal's missus's intervention, coupled with his aversion of getting medical help, the chances are he wouldn't be here today and the cause of death may have wrongly defined as Coronavirus related.

I get the point you were making, I just disagree is all. 
 

 

[Guest the shepherd]

1 minute ago, DD1903 said:

I get the point you were making, I just disagree is all. 
 

 

Fair enough min, we will beg to differ on this one.

[The Boofon]

2 hours ago, Parklife said:

The distance an object travels is directly proportionate to the resistance it meets. If you add resistance (a face covering) you'll reduce the distance travelled. 

Physics. 

@manboobs109 Just for clarity here.

 

Nothing biology related at all in this.

 

[The Boofon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liIlW-ovx0Y

[Fridge]

Restrictions not getting announced till 8pm apparently 

[manboobs109]

14 minutes ago, The Boofon said:

@manboobs109 Just for clarity here.

 

Nothing biology related at all in this.

 

Just for clarity there was plenty biology related in the post I answered originally 

[tutankamun]

9 minutes ago, Fridge said:

Restrictions not getting announced till 8pm apparently 

8.05 for Nicola

 

[strachanmcgheegoal]

1 minute ago, tutankamun said:

8.05 for Nicola

 

Will there be a stream?