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1 minute ago, NEM said:

Here he goes, Dr Doom ?

Are they?  Which restrictions?  Few articles I've read lately have Sweden almost back at normal.  Barely anyone in hospital with it (28 in Stockholm and surrounding area out of 2.4 million population).

Massive over reaction here but they've went to far with it nowt o admit they fucked it and the sheep who blindly lapped it up don't want to admit they've been had.

They are looking to bring in quarantines and some other measures are being discussed as they are worried about the rapid increase of the virus, especially in Stockholm.  Also after doing some searching more and more people in Sweden wearing masks now, added with some already doing a form of social distancing.

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7 minutes ago, minijc said:

They are looking to bring in quarantines and some other measures are being discussed as they are worried about the rapid increase of the virus, especially in Stockholm.  Also after doing some searching more and more people in Sweden wearing masks now, added with some already doing a form of social distancing.

I can never tell if you're just on one big fishing exhibition fella. There's no reports of any of that online and there's no indication of a rapid increase in the virus, their numbers have been pretty consistent for the last few months. 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

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1 minute ago, Quagmire said:

I can never tell if you're just on one big fishing exhibition fella. There's no reports of any of that online and there's no indication of a rapid increase in the virus, their numbers have been pretty consistent for the last few months. 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/09/22/stockholm-mulls-local-restrictions-worrying-infection-signs/

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8 minutes ago, Parklife said:

It's currently being used to help with the backlog in other areas and remains available should it be needed to deal with Covid in future. 

A relatively tiny investment investment in the grand scheme of things. Well worth it. 

Can you link it to me please? 

Parky what's the point? You are so 100% convinced you know best on every topic that you'll just say it's all shite anyway. 

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12 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Parky what's the point? You are so 100% convinced you know best on every topic that you'll just say it's all shite anyway. 

Nope. I'm definitely not. 

If you want to debate the subject then please link to what you have explained before that I've clearly missed. If you want to have a debate about me, then I'll leave you to do that without me. 

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29 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

This headline in The Telegraph (which I refuse to subscribe to) should start to break elsewhere: -

Sir Patrick Vallance has £600,000 shareholding in firm contracted to develop vaccines

Government denies claims of potential conflict of interest, maintaining he is not involved in commercial decisions on coronavirus vaccines

 

 

Bloody hell

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55 minutes ago, Parklife said:

It's currently being used to help with the backlog in other areas and remains available should it be needed to deal with Covid in future. 

A relatively tiny investment investment in the grand scheme of things. Well worth it. 

Can you link it to me please? 

So the NHS weren't stretched. A total myth. Clapped for NHS workers for literally no reason. 

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1 hour ago, NEM said:

?

 

Course it is.

 

They've been continually lying about figures over the course of the pandemic - if you believe it's killed that many seek help.

Who is they? The Scottish Government, UK Government - all world Governments, or the Illuminati?
 

The statistics on deaths are collated from a variety of organisations around the world - what do they have to gain from lying about it? I’ve no doubt that there are differences on how the data is collected, defined and the absolute accuracy of these measures from country to country - so what, even if it’s error of margin is 10-20%, it’s still way more.
 

But you seem to know more that all of us based on, well...erm...nothing at all really.

 

 So let’s hear it NEM - enlighten us all...

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5 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

There were Covid implications which really stretched parts of the NHS but not in the way we might have anticipated. I had hoped that after my wife retired, she might have exposed some of the (many) areas of NHS waste, inefficiency and corruption but she's been retained for two days a week so that day will have to wait (not that any of the MSM would be interested in running with it).

With so many specialists in other fields being redirected within the NHS for the anticipated Covid rush which never happened, millions of patients were totally neglected, most of whom were in the old and vulnerable category. The best examples to illustrate anything are found in smaller situations, where the numbers are less and the associated influences are fewer. In Orkney for example, there are 40+ MS patients and one MS specialist nurse to look after them. In March, the specialist was ripped from her position and redeployed for Covid testing exclusively, on an island where there were zero reported cases. That was 40+ patients and their families left with zero support. Multiply this by EVERY NHS trust in the UK, and by every health issue affecting the most vulnerable e.g. dementia, Parkinsons and other neuro-degenerative conditions, cancer not to mention the cancellation of required elective surgeries and the "ring of steel" and the wrapping of Hancock's "arms around" the elderly sounds not just hollow but was the complete opposite of what was required.

Support services to the most vulnerable were not only stretched but decimated in 2020 for a threat that never came, as the NHS never got close to being overwhelmed. If it's true that there is a eugenics agenda at the heart of Westminster, the insanity of the mismanagement in the NHS (which was totally driven by SAGE and the Public Health authorities, affecting the whole of the UK identically) certainly fitted that bill. Many of our elderly died well before their time and in circumstances that meant alone, without even a proper funeral to console their loved ones. 

Bloody shameful and driven by the irrational fear of those who continue to claim Covid19 is a far bigger threat than it is

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7 minutes ago, Ohjimmyjimmy said:

Who is they? The Scottish Government, UK Government - all world Governments, or the Illuminati?
 

The statistics on deaths are collated from a variety of organisations around the world - what do they have to gain from lying about it? I’ve no doubt that there are differences on how the data is collected, defined and the absolute accuracy of these measures from country to country - so what, even if it’s error of margin is 10-20%, it’s still way more.
 

But you seem to know more that all of us based on, well...erm...nothing at all really.

 

 So let’s hear it NEM - enlighten us all...

Scotgov were audited and caught lying about hospital admission numbers by 87% - you believe their death toll?

The UK government knocked over 5k off their death count recently.

The CDC recently revised the American deaths directly from Covid figure down by 94%.

That do for starters?

You keep believing the shit you've been spoon fed on the news though

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2 hours ago, minijc said:

They are looking to bring in quarantines and some other measures are being discussed as they are worried about the rapid increase of the virus, especially in Stockholm.  Also after doing some searching more and more people in Sweden wearing masks now, added with some already doing a form of social distancing.

Stockholm Syndrome Mark II?

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3 hours ago, Parklife said:

NHS services are getting back to normal. Pretending Covid isn't a problem would just lead to them all being shut again (like it did the first time around). Do you think that's the best way forward? 

I find it absolutely mental how folk cannot see that the restrictions are the only thing that keep businesses open and protect folks livelihoods.

If Covid prevalence is allowed to get out of control in the general population then there'll not be enough healthy Drs to treat people, no one will be going to pubs, schools will be shut, etc. 

Honest to fuck man. ?

Are you speaking for your own regional area, nationally or generally? You seem to know a lot about a lot. I'm intrigued.

I was due to get a second set of electrophysiological tests and retinal assessment at ARI by the end of April this year, however this has been postponed until further notice as it is not classed as an emergency. No future date has been set. These tests will determine if I can return to work in the near future or not, so pretty damn urgent for me.

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2 hours ago, rocket_scientist said:

This headline in The Telegraph (which I refuse to subscribe to) should start to break elsewhere: -

Sir Patrick Vallance has £600,000 shareholding in firm contracted to develop vaccines

Government denies claims of potential conflict of interest, maintaining he is not involved in commercial decisions on coronavirus vaccines

 

To be fair GSkB must be one of the most commonly held shares there is.

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2 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

Lol. I was meaning a summary, like a couple of sentences. Everything can be simplified and summarised.

Example; the Tories are cunts.

Expanded; they are cunts because they are self-serving and corrupt.

Further examples and expansions deriving therefrom etc. etc. 

That won't satisfy Parky though. He likes meat on the bones. 

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1 minute ago, rocket_scientist said:

The backlog for routine and elective operations is huge and almost unmanageable now. The one department that was hugely under-utilised from March onwards was A & E. Tons of staff with nothing to do. With the travel restrictions, car accidents were way down. Pubs being shut = less fights and with alcohol-related injuries being the biggest feeders, they were running hugely under capacity UK wide. 

Absolutely spot on and well evidenced, as two of the main types of injuries hospitals treat are relative to people who have been in involved in a RTA or incidents/fights that involve alcohol during pub opening hours.  

I went up by my local hospital's A & E, which serves a catchment area of approx. 20,000, twice over a month ago on consecutive days. I was the only one there the first time, and there were only one other patient the second time.

Empiricism and accounts from nurses in our area show, if representative of the nation of which they will have an in-depth knowledge of, hospitals have not been overrun. 

 

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14 minutes ago, the shepherd said:

Are you speaking for your own regional area, nationally or generally? You seem to know a lot about a lot. I'm intrigued.

I was due to get a second set of electrophysiological tests and retinal assessment at ARI by the end of April this year, however this has been postponed until further notice as it is not classed as an emergency. No future date has been set. These tests will determine if I can return to work in the near future or not, so pretty damn urgent for me.

Sare min. That's a lot worse than me.  I couldnt be arsed arguing the point earlier. 

April was cancelled for me, moved to August, that was cancelled. Not been rescheduled. Its relatively minor for me (hopefully) but would be good for a bit of peace of mind. 

Hope it's sorted soon for you 

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2 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Sare min. That's a lot worse than me.  I couldnt be arsed arguing the point earlier. 

April was cancelled for me, moved to August, that was cancelled. Not been rescheduled. Its relatively minor for me (hopefully) but would be good for a bit of peace of mind. 

Hope it's sorted soon for you 

Thanks very much min?. I fully understand why the need to cancel but it's the not knowing when it will actually take place that does your head in.

Here's hoping you receive a date in the near future for your own appointment for your own peace of mind and that you can move forward with your life. Best of luck min?

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1 minute ago, minijc said:

Can't wait for you lads to ignore the advice from a medical professional when you eventually get it.

With all due respect, I am sticking rigidly to what I have been told by my eye surgeon as well as other medics about what I can and cannot do, unless I want to run the risk of both my retinas completely detaching and becoming blind. 

So, if I hypothetically get this dreaded deadly virus I will adhere to what the medics tell me. I am sure my body will also advise me.

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Was reading a research paper last night describing mutations of the virus by examining samples from the start of the outbreak and samples a few months in, having been through a few hosts.

it stopped short of saying 'could it be that the mutations have actually made it weaker' because WHO etc wouldn't allow that sort of stuff to be printed.

When the main men are profiting from your lockdown misery (Vallance sharegate) it's time to RISE

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40 minutes ago, NEM said:

Bloody shameful and driven by the irrational fear of those who continue to claim Covid19 is a far bigger threat than it is

This is about the crux of it. A proportion of the population are now paralysed with fear about COVID as its all they've heard about for 6 months. The topic of threat and risk doesnt even seem to register with them, as if we haven't lived with the possibility of catching tranmissable viruses for our entire lives. No acknowledgement that the extreme focus on COVID is damaging so many other health services from functioning anywhere near normal. No strategy as to how and when they can get back on track, just disproportionate desicion making based on 'cases'. Cases which are curiously rising just as normal seasonal virus and bugs do at this time year after year. A test that may or may not differentiate between live and old coronavirus and register false positives.

If we could have a running daily total for influenza and pneumonia please for a sense of persepctive. I imagine the trend will be very much in line with COVID, elderly being the most susceptible, middle aged not immune but less mortatlity and the younger generation able to fight it off. All treatable, some vaccine protection but nothing foolproof. COIVD seems to be like a hybrid of these two but its being assumed its seasonal. Its a new strain of virus that we've not been exposed to but will have to be at some point to develop the means of fighting it off. A vaccine might protect us to some extent but how many will take it up, especailly with so little time to guage side effects? I can't wrap my head around why some a pinning their return to normality on this or why theres so little acceptance of having to live with COVID (potentially) for years to come, pehaps indefinately!

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