Coronavirus

[Reed or deed]

Whisky pal.

[minijc]

1 minute ago, Reed or deed said:

Whisky pal.

?

[Reed or deed]

I bet he didn’t.

[manboobs109]

35 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

That caddy wasn't a weegie called Kenny who's a lazy cunt and the worst specimen of humanity ever employed there. 

Na he's a paddy, good cunt. 

[RUL]

25 minutes ago, Reed or deed said:

How the fuck can small businesses contemplate paying 55% of an employees wages for 33% of their hours? 

Given employees are only working 33% of their hours, does this not also suggest that production and in most cases, sales and margins are down by a relative percentage.

So, in a lot of respects, it will actually be costing an employer/business owner to operate, rather than making profit.

Can’t see that trending myself.

Is a strange one. How does the maths work out if someone works 50% of their hours, does government pay 1/6 of the remaining 50%? How much would business have to pay?

All over my head but hopefully it keeps some folk in a job.

 

[minijc]

17 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

Did one of Europe’s top gamblers tell you that 

Lool great chat.

[Simply Red]

2 hours ago, rocket_scientist said:

Also very true. It's why I insisted my family NEVER buy me anything anytime, birthdays or Xmas. 

Im the same. I sound like a right miserable bastard saying ‘dont get me anything’ every year to everyone. The missus cant help herself tho so i waste my breath. Tbf the last few years she gets us both a weekend away in a nice hotel so fair doos. No more fucking aftershave please. 

 

[aberdeen1970]

Aye we just get stuff for our kids and other folks' kids these days. 

Although there's a few folk that get for our kids that don't have kids themselves so we feel obliged to get them something. 

 

[Studebaker-90]

I keep getting asked what I want for my birthday. It’s a significant milestone one but I can’t honestly think of anything to suggest. Trying hard to think of something you want actually never turns out to be something you actually need. 

[manboobs109]

1 minute ago, Studebaker-90 said:

I keep getting asked what I want for my birthday. It’s a significant milestone one but I can’t honestly think of anything to suggest. Trying hard to think of something you want actually never turns out to be something you actually need. 

Yeah your 16th is a big one. PlayStation? 

[Don Fonte]

4 minutes ago, Studebaker-90 said:

I keep getting asked what I want for my birthday. It’s a significant milestone one but I can’t honestly think of anything to suggest. Trying hard to think of something you want actually never turns out to be something you actually need. 

A bag of kikaino and a expensive (female) hooker.

[Bluto10]

5 minutes ago, Studebaker-90 said:

I keep getting asked what I want for my birthday. It’s a significant milestone one but I can’t honestly think of anything to suggest. Trying hard to think of something you want actually never turns out to be something you actually need. 

 

 

Just ask for flight(s) somewhere.

holidays are the best gifts 

[Henry]

1 minute ago, Bluto10 said:

 

 

Just ask for flight(s) somewhere.

holidays are the best gifts 

Does your missus keep buying you one-way flights? 

[Don Fonte]

1 minute ago, rocket_scientist said:

A small bag of kikaino but at 1970's/1980's purer quality and an expensive (female) hooker for the same money. 

Can't say fairer than that.

[Henry]

Students banned from pubs, restaurants and parties. 
 

how the fuck is that policed? 
 

Covid: Scottish university students banned from going to pubs https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-54285720

[manboobs109]

1 minute ago, Henry said:

Students banned from pubs, restaurants and parties. 
 

how the fuck is that policed? 
 

Covid: Scottish university students banned from going to pubs https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-54285720

Fucking hell what a load of keech

[Studebaker-90]

14 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Yeah your 16th is a big one. PlayStation? 

I chuckled 

[Don Fonte]

5 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

The night of the Bayern game about 12 years ago, we snorted over a grand's worth (at street value, I wasn't paying, my mate was dealing). I got bored of it and didn't bother after 3/4 a.m. Not worth doing these days. CTF. Cut te fuck and shit quality. 

Rare to find a supplier of good quality but they are out there.

A lot of muck though.

[Studebaker-90]

16 minutes ago, Don Fonte said:

A bag of kikaino and a expensive (female) hooker.

I’d be expecting multiple bags but otherwise good 

[Don Fonte]

1 minute ago, Studebaker-90 said:

I’d be expecting multiple bags but otherwise good 

Multiple hookers also?

[Studebaker-90]

4 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

Child 3/daughter 2 lived at Murano Halls in her first year, aye 48 years ago it seems given that she was a student so long. They were pretty shit flats I thought. Living there without drink or drugs would be particularly hard. 

Birkbeck halls on the Strathclyde campus. Doesn’t get much worse than that in terms of accommodation but what a time 

[Don Fonte]

3 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said:

 

Lockdown has added to the challenge 

True. 

[Studebaker-90]

Just now, rocket_scientist said:

Daughter 1 was at James Young halls at Strathclyde, or something like that. Just found out that my neice is one of the ones stuck in Murano. Nice way to start her first year away from home ? ?

James young was the fancy ones with the en suites. Brikbeck was 6 disgusting plooky youngsters to one bathroom. 

[Studebaker-90]

I make a shit load out of computers 

[The Cockney Don]

STUDENT WANKERS !!!

 

[Parklife]

4 hours ago, manboobs109 said:

As requested here's my plan - 

Thank you. 

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Stop testing schoolkids with the sniffles and their families, perfectly healthy students and people with no symptoms and use that capacity for regular testing of care home staff, home carers and members of the public with responsibilities for regular care of elderly and vulnerable people. That is until more testing capacity becomes available. If these people are unable to work for 14 days or whatever give homes, councils, charities the funds to provide replacement care. This will help provide temporary jobs and retraining for people made unemployed during the last few months.

So we temporarily let people who're unqualified and have not been vetted in to care for vulnerable people? There's not enough qualified people as it is and you think we can magic up more at short notice? Are these people who've been drafted in living in the homes? Or are they living in society in general and, due to higher virus prevalence, likely taking Covid in to the homes? 

How often are we testing people with caring responsibilities? Given the virus prevalence will be increasing massively due to what you say below, it'd need to be very, very frequent. Or do these people and their whole families shield? Otherwise the virus will undoubtedly be passed on. 

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Nursing homes should have trained nurses on at all times but where possible increase this to care homes.

So we're removing nurses from hospitals? What will that do to NHS regular business? 

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Increased use of hypochlorous acid, with sprays placed at the entrances of care homes, hospitals, train stations etc

Meals on wheels, home visits from doctors, chemists etc for those who need them.

Again, Dr's living in a society with higher virus prevalence will likely end up taking the virus in to care homes and decimate them. As I outlined before you'd need them to be work on a rota basis and not leave, with a quarantine period before they go in for their stint. 

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Council helplines for people choosing to shield set up for any assistance required (I'd get the traffic wardens doing it but thats not a dealbreaker)

What's this achieving? 

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Payments for people who have to isolate through track and trace

Continue with social distancing where possible but allow businesses to operate where this isn't possible

"Continue where possible" but if it isn't, just crack on anyway. I wonder how that'll go... 

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I'd basically make it as easy as possible for people who CHOOSE to shield to do so.

That doesn't really mean anything. How would you "make it easy"? Pay people full wages? 

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After a few months of this the R number would be very low as the virus will have spread amongst the general population and a degree of immunity will have built up.

We don't even know that lasting immunity exists. 

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We're going to have to accept that some people will die from this and they will continue to do so forevermore.

We're all aware of that. What your "plan" would do is just sacrifice more of the less healthy. 

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I'd like to have taken this option from the start and the the furlough billions could have been used in a different way rather than paying perfectly healthy people, some of them very well off, thousands of pounds a month to stay at home to hide from a disease that a)will hardly affect them b) they are going to catch anyway but that ship has sailed

BOOKMARKED for when Parky says "how would you protect the vulnerable" for the 1000th time

You can bookmark that if you'd like but given the virus prevalence would increase massively (assuming we're stopping all the things you've moaned about previously - face coverings, limits on gatherings, etc and the social distancing doesn't actually matter you mentioned above) and it'd undoubtedly end up infecting many of the people who're old/vulnerable, it wouldn't work IMO. 

Mixing people living in a society with the virus at high prevalence, with the people who cannot withstand the virus is what in essence you'd do. You cannot "Protect the vulnerable" without keeping the virus under control. 

[Zeus]

Wifey (canna mind her name, a professor)was on Radio Scotland earlier - reckons Europe will have herd immunity by the end of Autumn. Terrific. 

[manboobs109]

Parky you seem to be presuming that everyone would be catching it at the same time and would be infectious at all times. That wouldn't happen. People would catch it, isolate if required and then be able to crack on for at least 6 months if not longer with immunity. 

People can be vetted in 2 minutes. It's a simple check on a police computer, and trained on the job in a week. It's helping people eat, wash and wipe arses how much training do you think it takes? 

The nurses could still be employed by the NHS, they'd just be caring in a different setting. 

Of course the prevalence would be higher but your chat about it being impossible for people to shield or to prevent it getting in care homes is something you've decided in you head and can't be shifted from. 

[manboobs109]

2 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Wifey (canna mind her name, a professor)was on Radio Scotland earlier - reckons Europe will have herd immunity by the end of Autumn. Terrific. 

She's talking bollocks. Mini and Parky have decided you can't be immune. 

[Parklife]

5 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Parky you seem to be presuming that everyone would be catching it at the same time and would be infectious at all times.
 

No, I'm not presuming that at all. 

5 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

That wouldn't happen. People would catch it, isolate if required and then be able to crack on for at least 6 months if not longer with immunity. 

But many on here have told us that most people don't even know they have it. So we'd have most of the infectious people not isolating at all. 

5 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

People can be vetted in 2 minutes. It's a simple check on a police computer, and trained on the job in a week. It's helping people eat, wash and wipe arses how much training do you think it takes? 
 

You've a very low respect for what it takes to care for someone if you think you can be trained in a week on the job. 

5 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

The nurses could still be employed by the NHS, they'd just be caring in a different setting. 

Yeah but they wouldn't be in hospitals, so hospital services will suffer. Wasn't reduced hospital services one of the big complaints on here? 

5 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Of course the prevalence would be higher but your chat about it being impossible for people to shield or to prevent it getting in care homes is something you've decided in you head and can't be shifted from. 

It's something I can't be shifted from without it actually being explained to me properly how it'd work. What you've said above wouldn't work. 

If you genuinely think we can "protect the vulnerable" effectively by doing what you said, then we'll just have to agree to disagree.