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Just now, Parklife said:

What was she basing that unique and outlandish claim on? 

Can't remember, something to do with other respiratory illnesses. Was deep in thought with work tbh. 

Another lad was on ridiculing Vallance and Whitty which was also good to hear.  Pretty much said we need to take precautions but the blanket restrictions on everyone was unfair.

I'm no expert,  don't claim to be either but was refreshing to hear rather than the likes of Vine 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Parklife said:

No, I'm not presuming that at all. 

But many on here have told us that most people don't even know they have it. So we'd have most of the infectious people not isolating at all. 

You've a very low respect for what it takes to care for someone if you think you can be trained in a week on the job. 

Yeah but they wouldn't be in hospitals, so hospital services will suffer. Wasn't reduced hospital services one of the big complaints on here? 

It's something I can't be shifted from without it actually being explained to me properly how it'd work. What you've said above wouldn't work. 

If you genuinely think we can "protect the vulnerable" effectively by doing what you said, then we'll just have to agree to disagree. 

Parky we can't protect anyone 100% but I'd rather money was thrown at attempting to do that than on pointlessly paying people to sit at home. Recruiting and training new carers, testing the people who need it and providing services for people who choose to stay at home is perfectly possible and would provide a level of protection without asking the rest of the population to sacrifice family life, friendships and human contact for months on end. Without a vaccine this could drag on for years, do you think that is a viable proposition? How long is too long? It will have to be done at some point why not now?

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2 hours ago, manboobs109 said:

Parky we can't protect anyone 100%

Of course we can't but your idea of inflicting absolute long term misery on 1 million people in the UK (that was roughly the number who shielded) and still not actually protecting them doesn't seem the best way forward to me. 

2 hours ago, manboobs109 said:

but I'd rather money was thrown at attempting to do that than on pointlessly paying people to sit at home. 

Furlough would've never been required wholesale like it was if we'd taken the virus seriously from the off. I agree, that's not a good strategy, it was however necessary back in March. 

2 hours ago, manboobs109 said:


Recruiting and training new carers, testing the people who need it and providing services for people who choose to stay at home is perfectly possible and would provide a level of protection without asking the rest of the population to sacrifice family life, friendships and human contact for months on end.

It wouldn't provide adequate protection though IMO. We'll have to agree to disagree. 

I don't want to sacrifice those things either. I don't think we had to either, if folk would have greater respect and comply with the guidelines that were in place. That wasn't happening and now we've got harsher restrictions because the virus has spread again. 

Ive been following the guidelines and I'm being deprived of those things now. So you can imagine that I'm pretty pissed off about it. 

2 hours ago, manboobs109 said:


Without a vaccine this could drag on for years, do you think that is a viable proposition? How long is too long? It will have to be done at some point why not now?

We're already developing effective treatments to treat those with acute cases. As we learn more about the virus we'll develop/discover more, We'll better understand the long term impact of it and hopefully we'll get a breakthrough that either 1) gives immunity or 2) reduces the effect of it on people.

I don't think we'll agree on much about all of this and I don't think either of us are likely to change the others opinion, so I'd say it's best for me to leave it there. 

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28 minutes ago, Parklife said:

Of course we can't but your idea of inflicting absolute long term misery on 1 million people in the UK (that was roughly the number who shielded) and still not actually protecting them doesn't seem the best way forward to me. 

Furlough would've never been required wholesale like it was if we'd taken the virus seriously from the off. I agree, that's not a good strategy, it was however necessary back in March. 

It wouldn't provide adequate protection though IMO. We'll have to agree to disagree. 

I don't want to sacrifice those things either. I don't think we had to either, if folk would have greater respect and comply with the guidelines that were in place. That wasn't happening and now we've got harsher restrictions because the virus has spread again. 

Ive been following the guidelines and I'm being deprived of those things now. So you can imagine that I'm pretty pissed off about it. 

We're already developing effective treatments to treat those with acute cases. As we learn more about the virus we'll develop/discover more, We'll better understand the long term impact of it and hopefully we'll get a breakthrough that either 1) gives immunity or 2) reduces the effect of it on people.

I don't think we'll agree on much about all of this and I don't think either of us are likely to change the others opinion, so I'd say it's best for me to leave it there. 

You're the most boring person in the World, after reading that I almost lost the will to live and wanted to catch a deadly virus. Have you ever seen a naked woman?

I see why you attack the likes of Manboobs, Bluto, cheese, me, you're jealous, you aspire to be like us. Not having a go at all, you have youth on your side, you might get there one day. 

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57 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

The naked woman line was hilarious. I would give you a +1 for that alone if I could but it's against my religion, given your situation and all.

I don't think you belong in any group with those posters however. And I'm totally certain that punklife doesn't aspire to anything that remotely touches you. Be comfortable in your own skin. Everyone is an individual. We are not defined by our tribe nor the history of the tribe we think we belong to. See Doug Stanhope and jew jew jew jew jew and ape ape ape ape ape. 

I like nice people, those I mentioned are great people, could mention a load more, your milnes, poodlers, misers, redstars, nems, boofs, henrys, you as well rocket, loads more. Can't be doing with nasty people though, live and let live, just don't be a prick.

Got my bingo card out for his reply, lol. 

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8 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

All this chat about students is fucking disgraceful. Leitch threatening them that they my not see their folks at Christmas now. How have we got to a point where perfectly healthy young people are getting blamed for catching a virus that they don't even notice they have? 

Leitch didn't threaten that, Matt Hancock did though.

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1 minute ago, manboobs109 said:

Well it was just reported on the radio he did. Separate households and if the restrictions are the same at Christmas they won't be able to mix, the same as any other households. 

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When asked about potential plans for Christmas, he said:

"I’m worried about people going to areas with infection and coming back with infection, not just for Christmas but for weekends, for perhaps special events at home.

"I would like them to think very very carefully about weekends at home, and think about how they can make that as safe as they can.

"I think we’ll have to take a view, in the next couple of months, about what we do at Christmas time.

"I think asking everyone to stay in their halls of residence for the two week holiday period over christmas is unrealistic, but we will have to put in place something that helps us keep safe.

"Christmas is going to be a difficult period to live with covid, so we’re going to have to think very carefully across the world and across the UK about how we do that."

 

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