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4 minutes ago, Millertime said:

The salient point purely, is this... there is an increase in cases but next to no increase in deaths

Allied to that,  the last 5 weeks has seen the lowest total deaths in years 

Why is this?

Simple.

The surge in additional deaths was down to the virus accelerating the death of those who were for the broth pot already

Why, seriously,  do people not get this?

It could be argued the virus did some people a favour, fuck wasting away with dementia, better to get a sharp exit.

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1 hour ago, Millertime said:

The salient point purely, is this... there is an increase in cases but next to no increase in deaths

Allied to that,  the last 5 weeks has seen the lowest total deaths in years 

Why is this?

Simple.

The surge in additional deaths was down to the virus accelerating the death of those who were for the broth pot already

Why, seriously,  do people not get this?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51979654

This guy was saying that on our national broadcaster at the height of the lockdown.

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54 minutes ago, daytripping said:

The hospital admissions would suggest otherwise, you're not ignoring facts to suit your agenda I take it? We have almost as many as them despite having a tenth of the population.

Feelings > Facts

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1 hour ago, Millertime said:

The salient point purely, is this... there is an increase in cases but next to no increase in deaths

Allied to that,  the last 5 weeks has seen the lowest total deaths in years 

Why is this?

Simple.

The surge in additional deaths was down to the virus accelerating the death of those who were for the broth pot already

Why, seriously,  do people not get this?

😂

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1 hour ago, daytripping said:

The hospital admissions would suggest otherwise, you're not ignoring facts to suit your agenda I take it? We have almost as many as them despite having a tenth of the population.

Lol, trusting the Tories numbers when they've been going above and beyond to stifle and suppress that information for months as well as looking for little loop holes to try hide the magnitude of their fuck ups.

1 hour ago, daytripping said:

It could be argued the virus did some people a favour, fuck wasting away with dementia, better to get a sharp exit.

Ah yes a sharp exit, which for some was 12-16 weeks in a hospital bed in all sorts of pain, lungs fucking up, legs needing amputated and some other horrendous stuff, hud me back.

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4 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

It's no barrel of laughs when they starve alzheimers patients to death(withdraw treatment) either Mini (I've seen it) 

My wife, who was in charge of Parkinsons for North Scotland for many years (just retired from the NHS after a nearly 40 year shift) had 4 patients per month die on average. In March, there were 40 deaths. Most of these were in care homes, where the life expectancy is a year only and most had Covid as the cause of death, where it clearly wasn't in many cases.

There is no doubt that the elderly and those suffering from other conditions e.g. cancer have been neglected/sacrificed for the past six months. The real question is why? I don't buy that it was just incompetent management/governance. There is something more sinister going on.

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2 hours ago, daytripping said:

The hospital admissions would suggest otherwise, you're not ignoring facts to suit your agenda I take it? We have almost as many as them despite having a tenth of the population.

Thats the problem in Scotland though, facts don't really matter, most things come down to political agenda and that is where we are failing, a huge lack of facts and consistency 

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13 minutes ago, minijc said:

Lol, trusting the Tories numbers when they've been going above and beyond to stifle and suppress that information for months as well as looking for little loop holes to try hide the magnitude of their fuck ups.

Ah yes a sharp exit, which for some was 12-16 weeks in a hospital bed in all sorts of pain, lungs fucking up, legs needing amputated and some other horrendous stuff, hud me back.

It's health board numbers, nothing to do with politics.

12-16 weeks on pain medication opposed to years being spoon fed and arse wiped not knowing the day of the week or those closest to me, I'd take that.

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22 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

My wife, who was in charge of Parkinsons for North Scotland for many years (just retired from the NHS after a nearly 40 year shift)

Should’ve given herself a day off. 

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Minijc,

Have you tried googling how many men die of prostate cancer every day in the UK? Might just stop you being so scared of this bug and give you a new more deadly disease to focus on.

It's killing 16 times more people than Covid in the UK every day, that's just one type of cancer. Do you now see why the majority of us see it as a shamdemic?

Later on today we'll see one of the reasons why the snp are pushing the fear, be prepared for an all new health system that we'll pay through the nose for, this isn't about a flu.

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15 minutes ago, daytripping said:

Go to Prof Sikora's twitter, you'll get all the details there. I'm at work, don't have time to do google for you but will ink you to the main NHS site, data is all there. No need to thank me.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public#returning-travellers

As of yesterday there are 258 people in hospital in Scotland, 764 in hospitals down in England, now you spent the last few weeks telling us all the whole local lockdown was an over reaction and that the cases don't matter because deaths are down and there's barely any hospital admissions, now you're moaning about how shit she's doing, incredible stuff Dayts.

12 minutes ago, daytripping said:

Minijc,

Have you tried googling how many men die of prostate cancer every day in the UK? Might just stop you being so scared of this bug and give you a new more deadly disease to focus on.

It's killing 16 times more people than Covid in the UK every day, that's just one type of cancer. Do you now see why the majority of us see it as a shamdemic?

Later on today we'll see one of the reasons why the snp are pushing the fear, be prepared for an all new health system that we'll pay through the nose for, this isn't about a flu.

HAHAHAHA as opposed to every single health service being sold off to privatisation by the tories?  Last I checked cancer doesn't pass from person to person but corona virus does and it has a huge impact on people with underlying issues, it's hilarious that you think it's good that it helped kill off some people so they didn't have to suffer through the illness they already had but now you're really concerned for those with cancer, so what is it, is it actually killing people before their time or it all one big 'shamdemic' you need to make your mind up.

 

Also I'm not actually that scared, it's just that I've read up on the virus and the impact it can have on peoples health, my parents are in their 60s, one has issues that combined with the virus could easily be the end of him.  Myself I'm not in the greatest of shapes so I'd rather avoid getting it as I don't want to roll the dice especially when they still don't know what awful lasting effects it can have on the body/mind.

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That’s just it, a lot of folk are frozen with fear regards COVID, getting themselves worked up over numbers that keep getting churned out by the MSM that stokes peoples anxieties because there’s never any context to them. So number of cases are going up, but very few are needing treatment now. This seems to be largely down to increased testing including random community testing which is probably picking up more asymptomatic folk who don’t even realise they have it. All this proves is that it was likely more widespread to begin with. Oh but its largely younger people getting it now and can fight it off easier... Maybe, but surely these younger folk would still be passing it on to their elder relatives and we’d be seeing a surge in admissions and deaths? Be nice to see these cases broken down to see where the trends are.

COVID’s now way down the list in terms of deadly illnesses so why are we still persisting with this daily drama when there’s literally dozens more worse diseases and illnesses to be concerned about.

Edited by thedandydon

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3 hours ago, Millertime said:

The salient point purely, is this... there is an increase in cases but next to no increase in deaths

Allied to that,  the last 5 weeks has seen the lowest total deaths in years 

Why is this?

Simple.

The surge in additional deaths was down to the virus accelerating the death of those who were for the broth pot already

Why, seriously,  do people not get this?

Accelerated further by Sturgeon and Boris shoving covid patients into care homes

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School attendance at 86% Unbelievable stuff. Tens of thousands of children missing out on education because of both governments scare mongering. 

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3 minutes ago, NEM said:

Accelerated further by Sturgeon and Boris shoving covid patients into care homes

This was the biggest failing. They emptied the hospitals of the elderly, some of whom were seriously ill. They were expecting a Covid rush that might exceed capacity and it never came (I'm talking only Grampian NHS here). They were refusing to take the elderly into hospital from both their own homes and care homes, except for absolute emergencies.

I don't think that we can blame Sturgeon however. She was only following a national strategy, imposed by Westminster following "the science", advice given by SAGE, a committee that included Cummings, the son-in-law of a known eugenicist. The building of the hospital at the SECC was also a Westminster-imposed requirement. I find it tragic that some seek to argue that Blowjob done it better than Nicola. Our devolved government never had true autonomy on the biggest issues, the global pandemic (and defence) being too big for our wee country to handle.

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4 minutes ago, daytripping said:

Rubbish, she's went out of her way to do it her way, that's why we were locked down far longer than England. Every step she did it her way, including putting old people to their deaths.

You've changed your tune, wasn't that long ago you were saying she was copying Boris but just a few weeks later.

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I'd guess a good percentage of the missing bairns wouldn't take much encouragement to voluntarily miss some schooling. 

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2 minutes ago, Parklife said:

What's the attendance rate under normal circumstances, just for a comparison? 

I'd imagine it's normally nearer 100%.  Parents can usually be fined for their kids not going to school I think? 

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4 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

This was the biggest failing. They emptied the hospitals of the elderly, some of whom were seriously ill. They were expecting a Covid rush that might exceed capacity and it never came (I'm talking only Grampian NHS here). They were refusing to take the elderly into hospital from both their own homes and care homes, except for absolute emergencies.

I don't think that we can blame Sturgeon however. She was only following a national strategy, imposed by Westminster following "the science", advice given by SAGE, a committee that included Cummings, the son-in-law of a known eugenicist. The building of the hospital at the SECC was also a Westminster-imposed requirement. I find it tragic that some seek to argue that Blowjob done it better than Nicola. Our devolved government never had true autonomy on the biggest issues, the global pandemic (and defence) being too big for our wee country to handle.

Rubbish, she's went out of her way to do it her way, that's why we were locked down far longer than England. Every step she did it her way, including putting old people to their deaths.

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11 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

School attendance at 86% Unbelievable stuff. Tens of thousands of children missing out on education because of both governments scare mongering. 

What's the attendance rate under normal circumstances, just for a comparison? 

Edit: It appears to be around 95%

Edited by Parklife

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4 minutes ago, daytripping said:

Rubbish, she's went out of her way to do it her way, that's why we were locked down far longer than England. Every step she did it her way, including putting old people to their deaths.

I fear that your views might be coloured by the fact that you are anti-independence and you voted Conservative?

This normally make zealots and fanatics see everything through a twisted lens.

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10 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

I fear that your views might be coloured by the fact that you are anti-independence and you voted Conservative?

This normally make zealots and fanatics see everything through a twisted lens.

You being a cult member will mean your views will be slanted, that's why I stick to facts and keep my opinion out of it.

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7 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

I fear that your views might be coloured by the fact that you are anti-independence and you voted Conservative?

This normally make zealots and fanatics see everything through a twisted lens.

Bang on RS. The fact that Nicola is hated even more now by Scottish Torries and the right wing shows she’s doing something right. 

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