WesthillWanderersFC Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: Aye every chance of that now. Becoming quite clear that footballers do not have the intelligence, nor the motivation to comply with the rules put in place to allow it to take place. Apparently there's a news agency in Edinburgh who have evidence of players from other clubs doing the same as what our lot did a week past Saturday. They've just been fortunate that none of them tested positive. Once our second wave hits in the winter the game's a bogey. Still bizarre that the SPFL haven't clarified at what point the league becomes "awardable". 50% complete? After 2 full rounds? Sevco will be praying for it to happen before New Year I genuinely don’t believe the season will be played out. We have fuckwit footballers who don’t have the brains &/or the discipline to abide by the rules laid down (whether you agree with the rules or not is absolutely irrelevant). Added to the fact we have a cautious & twitchy government, I just don’t see how it’ll finish, especially as there’s every scientific reason to believe we’ll get a second wave in Autumn/Winter. As you said, at what point do we say “null & void”, or “placings stand as they are”? Surely if it’s prior to Xmas we null & void. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Studebaker-90 said: Forgive me but is “second wave” not just media spun hyperbole? How do we know that what we experienced in March/April wasn’t the “second wave” based on the first cases in Europe being around December 2019. A second wave in Europe maybe. But we've not really experienced a "second wave" yet. Based on the graphs. We're kinda riding some smaller waves at the moment. We're always going to see ups and downs though, that's perfectly normal. It's how we deal with it at the time is what will define how much damage it does. i.e. not going out in massive groups of people, and definitely not flying to a country on the "this is a shit show, keep out" list and then not quarantining when you get back! Link to comment
Studebaker-90 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Forgive me but is “second wave” not just media spun hyperbole? How do we know that what we experienced in March/April wasn’t the “second wave” based on the first cases in Europe being around December 2019. 1 1 Link to comment
Lencarl Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Chris Sutton on twitter: "Just because Nicola Sturgeon made a mess of the schools yesterday it shouldn’t mean she has to take it out on football today"... He does talk some rubbish. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 It isn't. In many ways, Covid 19 acts very much like influenza. Which always has a spike in cases in winter months and which can be rationalised ( it doesn't go away during the better weather...people do get it in July just in far lower numbers) And the flu on average kills between 20000-25000 every year in the UK in spite of a vaccine being available. (the flu vaccine isn't particularly effective...needs to be given every year and it's partial guesswork on 2 of the 3 inactivated virus components that are included in it) Coronavirus is killing about 4-5 times as many as ordinary flu. And most of those are either elderly or have long term co-existant conditions like diabetes or COPD that puts them at far greater risk. However the big difference is it is much more transmissible....far more people are getting it, albeit that in the vast majority of them, it does prove to be a minor illness. But in true influenza, the virus mutates so slowly and antibodies persist long enough that if you catch it, you won't get it again for at least 8-10 years. The evidence we have so far is that covid 19 antibodies are very short lived, possibly as short as 3-6 months. That is the big problem...people catching it again and again, impacting the country financially as vast numbers take time off sick on a regular basis. Of course there's no proven vaccine for it as yet. Trials are underway and may be promising but there's just no guarantees it will ever prove to be effective or financially viable. Even if it is, the likely outcome is that it will be a yearly inoculation for targeted groups only and will still kill as many as flu does. each year. Link to comment
thedandydon Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I also don't buy the thinking that wintertime will see a surge in cases, given we're repeatedly told its not 'the flu' so not a seasonal virus. It seems to be doing fine in all climates just now. Actual flu might be more of an issue. Back on topic though, hopefully the game goes ahead. Unless theres a good reason not to (ie. another case) the Celtic fuck-up should be an issue for their tie, not ours. Link to comment
Guest the shepherd Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, Studebaker-90 said: Forgive me but is “second wave” not just media spun hyperbole? How do we know that what we experienced in March/April wasn’t the “second wave” based on the first cases in Europe being around December 2019. Spot on min. We have had countless "second waves" since being aware Coronavirus was heading to our shores. I am sick of hearing from all the fucking know-alls who have become qualified medical experts and clairvoyants overnight if we even dare challenge all of the unfounded rhetoric we have been subjected to since lockdown. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Millertime said: Thats how daft the rules are though IF this virus is as catchy as they say, then if india has to quarantine in case she has it, then ash would likely get it to then spread to our players She might even be the fucking reason 2 have it 1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said: Opening a can of worms there! Surely DM would have been most at risk then Link to comment
Simply Red Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, thedandydon said: I also don't buy the thinking that wintertime will see a surge in cases, given we're repeatedly told its not 'the flu' so not a seasonal virus. It seems to be doing fine in all climates just now. Actual flu might be more of an issue. Logic dictates that the increase in folk sneezing, coughing, etc which happens in winter, would have a direct knock-on effect with an airborne virus like covid. What im saying is, of course it will be worse in the winter. Link to comment
Lencarl Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Another quote from Chris Sutton on Twitter regarding Bolingoli and his trip to Spain: "If he knowingly went to Spain" Link to comment
Zeus Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I'm sneezing with hay-fever* just now..... It's all a load of bollocks. It's May be worse in the winter. It may nae be. Nobody fucking knows and the doom mongering helps no-one. *gay fever lol 1 1 Link to comment
Guest Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Delighted that there are so many scientists on the forum. Same as the flu, eh. Be as well crack on and see what happens? Link to comment
thedandydon Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 32 minutes ago, Simply Red said: Logic dictates that the increase in folk sneezing, coughing, etc which happens in winter, would have a direct knock-on effect with an airborne virus like covid. What im saying is, of course it will be worse in the winter. Perhaps, but I don't think flu typically spreads like wildfire in the Easter months either and warmer weather tends to see it slow down (not the case with Covid, see Florida) so quite different in that regard. As someone mentioned it could well have been circulating this past winter but no-one knows for sure. Loads of folk I know (including myself) had coughs that took an age to shake off but wont know either way as we're doing fuck all antibody testing. equally it could just have been a bad cold, who knows. Its all guesswork at the moment. Link to comment
Geoff_Tipps Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I think season should be called now based on current standings. Another massive GIRUY to Hearts with Hibs crowned champions. Link to comment
The Cockney Don Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Wee Jimmys daily update in an hour, should find out after that whether the game is on. 2 Link to comment
daytripping Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Sounds like the game is probably on if she never mentioned it, Lawell must have had a word with her. 1 2 Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Nicola Sturgeon now referencing the Tim. ”What are we going to do about it?”.... ”There have been talks going on this morning”. But no closure yet ”I don’t want the season to be in jeopardy”.... “Celtic & Aberdeen won’t play this week” This is a yellow card.....Next will be red” Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, daytripping said: Sounds like the game is probably on if she never mentioned it, Lawell must have had a word with her. No it isn’t. you didn’t listen to her follow up ”I wouldn’t expect Celtic or Aberdeen to be playing in the next week” Link to comment
ferlaytio Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Probably good for us in reality. Worry about lack of minutes in the legs for Euro game though. The SPFL need to make a new set of stringent rules for every player. They’re professionals so they will just have to deal with living in a bunker for the next 9 months except for training and matches. Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Don't expect Aberdeen and celtic to play in the next week Link to comment
daytripping Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Hahahaha, hid it behind the first question from a journalist. She really is a snide cow. 2 1 Link to comment
1983 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Shambles for Hamilton and us — why wasn’t that decision made last week along with the St J game. Shambles from gov and Scottish football 2 Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: No it isn’t. you didn’t listen to her follow up ”I wouldn’t expect Celtic or Aberdeen to be playing in the next week” Aye, then says she has nae ordered that they be postponed. SPFL should tell her to get to fuck. Either she cancels it or she disnae. Nae ony o this hinting / suggesting pish. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 28 minutes ago, daytripping said: Sounds like the game is probably on if she never mentioned it, Lawell must have had a word with her. That’s hun talk. Typical unionist ? 1 Link to comment
Ernie McCracken Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, 1983 said: Shambles for Hamilton and us — why wasn’t that decision made last week along with the St J game. Shambles from gov and Scottish football Have to agree. This decision should have been taken on Friday, as nothing has changed between then and now in respect of ourselves and Hamilton. Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I've no issue with Scottish football being given a kicking, You reap what you fucking sow, your arrogance, self importance, belligerence, conceitedness, the belief that your status earns you certain privileges, you are above the law and better than the common man the same common man that hand feeds you. You have proven over the last 4 month the game is a stinking sesspit, devoid of humility, decency and any scrap of respect. Apart from that Scottish football is great 1 Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, muttonhumper said: Aye, then says she has nae ordered that they be postponed. SPFL should tell her to get to fuck. Either she cancels it or she disnae. Nae ony o this hinting / suggesting pish. The SPFL will toe the line. if in the unlikely event playing the games lead to an outbreak of COVID, they’ll be hammered & we’d definitely see the game shut down for the foreseeable. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, ericblack4boss said: I've no issue with Scottish football being given a kicking, You reap what you fucking sow, your arrogance, self importance, belligerence, conceitedness, the belief that your status earns you certain privileges, you are above the law and better than the common man the same common man that hand feeds you. You have proven over the last 4 month the game is a stinking sesspit, devoid of humility, decency and any scrap of respect. Apart from that Scottish football is great The last 4 months? Way WAY longer than that. Rangers/EBT years... 2012 etc Link to comment
slippers Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: No it isn’t. you didn’t listen to her follow up ”I wouldn’t expect Celtic or Aberdeen to be playing in the next week” She didn’t mention it at all until the questions were put to the floor and every question was about football for first 5 minutes. Link to comment
Sheepo Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: The unionist intelligentsia is out I see? Fuck me, at least reply with something of substance, or just fuck off you bell end. ? Why do you Nationalists have to label everyone as Unionists if they don't share your views, very Hun like 4 3 Link to comment
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