Tord31 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Just now, Ernie McCracken said: In McInnes early years, one of McInnes best traits was quickly identifying when a signing hadn't and wasn't going to work out, rather than futily persevering with them in the hope they would come good. Zola and Wylde are 2 I can think of off the top of my head. Can you imagine if McInnes had decided to stick with Zola instead of signing Rooney!!! Yea absolutely they were both punted very quickly. Paul Quinn was another that signed for 2 years and last 6 months. There have been plenty others too. There is certainly a role in the squad for one of McGeouch or Ojo. It's having both that doesn't make much sense. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 We definitely don't need both Ojo and McGeouch. And we definitely don't need this version of Bryson full stop. I think we play two defensive midfielders too often in any case. Plenty of games when one would suffice. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 We dont even have the perfect blend of midfielders even though we have loads. In the 4231 one should be sitting (Ojo? McGeouch? McCrorie? Campbell?), one should be getting up and down (ideally I'd see this being Ferguson) and one should be comfortable as an 8 or 10 depending on the match/score. We are totally missing the last one. I don't think it's Bryson or Ferguson. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 30 minutes ago, Tord31 said: We dont even have the perfect blend of midfielders even though we have loads. In the 4231 one should be sitting (Ojo? McGeouch? McCrorie? Campbell?), one should be getting up and down (ideally I'd see this being Ferguson) and one should be comfortable as an 8 or 10 depending on the match/score. We are totally missing the last one. I don't think it's Bryson or Ferguson. I’d say McCrorie & one of McGeouch/Campbell sitting with Ferguson being box to box Neither McGeouch or Campbell have had a consistent run & one of them needs that. Link to comment
afc_blockhead Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, Tord31 said: We dont even have the perfect blend of midfielders even though we have loads. In the 4231 one should be sitting (Ojo? McGeouch? McCrorie? Campbell?), one should be getting up and down (ideally I'd see this being Ferguson) and one should be comfortable as an 8 or 10 depending on the match/score. We are totally missing the last one. I don't think it's Bryson or Ferguson. On paper I don't think its as bad as you make out. Bryson when signed appear to be a midfielder who burst forward and contributed a lot in an attacking sense. Ferguson as many have said has this in him as well, he has often had to sit deep to cover injuries (the load we had in midfield last season for example) and other issues. He could move forward. Even McGeouch wasn't necessarily a defensive midfielder in his time with Hibs. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 on paper we have a really good side. On grass, we're fucking useless. 1 3 Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 33 minutes ago, Tord31 said: We dont even have the perfect blend of midfielders even though we have loads. In the 4231 one should be sitting (Ojo? McGeouch? McCrorie? Campbell?), one should be getting up and down (ideally I'd see this being Ferguson) and one should be comfortable as an 8 or 10 depending on the match/score. We are totally missing the last one. I don't think it's Bryson or Ferguson. Its not a 4-2-3-1 if only one is sitting though. I see SevCo were criticised for playing two defensive midfielders against Livi for it not being creative enough Ideally, being offensive, we should play a 4-1-3-2 formation, with the two full backs encouraged to push on and overlap the wide midfielders with the defensive midfielder able to drop back into a back three for cover. The two upfront can be deployed one in the no10 role, behind the main striker and be asked to drop and fill in midfield when not in possession to make it a 4-5-1, but as soon as we have possession, the onus is to get back into the attacking 4-1-3-2 layout. 1 Link to comment
Ernie McCracken Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 54 minutes ago, Tord31 said: We dont even have the perfect blend of midfielders even though we have loads. In the 4231 one should be sitting (Ojo? McGeouch? McCrorie? Campbell?), one should be getting up and down (ideally I'd see this being Ferguson) and one should be comfortable as an 8 or 10 depending on the match/score. We are totally missing the last one. I don't think it's Bryson or Ferguson. Agree it should be 2 of Ferguson, McCrorie, Campbell, Ojo or McGeough that should play. If he tries to shoehorn 3 of them into the team it's gonna be brutal. The other should be from Bryson, Mcginn or Wright, and let's be honest Bryson didn't really impress last time out. Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 So McGinn then. Link to comment
Don Fonte Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Can't wait for crowds to be allowed to return to football so I can head along and boo this hun cunts every bad touch. 1 3 4 Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 35 minutes ago, Millertime said: That interview he gave is incredible Can't help but love him and his eagerness is amazing Just shows you, despite what we think re mcinnes, he certainly has pull with the players He's hardly going to say that it's distinctly average to be here and that Cormack Park, whilst a decent facility, doesn't have a swimming pool like his old team's training ground does Start referring to the team he has just left as "sevco" might also get a few of the more doubtful supporters onside 1 Link to comment
starryfish Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Mcinnes states McCrorie was signed as part of succession planning, possibly got him a year earlier than planned, Ojo out of contract next summer and don’t expect him to renew. Link to comment
redstrummer Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: I’d like two up front. I can’t see McInnes going 4-4-2, so work on a 3-5-2? Lewis Taylor Hoban McKenna Hernandez Ferguson McCrorie McGeouch Hayes McGinn Cosgrove Maybe Deano instead of McGeouch. Happy with that . Lot of height in that side too , should be good at set pieces . Ferguson the 1 in a 3- 4- 1-2 Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 49 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: Its not a 4-2-3-1 if only one is sitting though. I see SevCo were criticised for playing two defensive midfielders against Livi for it not being creative enough Ideally, being offensive, we should play a 4-1-3-2 formation, with the two full backs encouraged to push on and overlap the wide midfielders with the defensive midfielder able to drop back into a back three for cover. The two upfront can be deployed one in the no10 role, behind the main striker and be asked to drop and fill in midfield when not in possession to make it a 4-5-1, but as soon as we have possession, the onus is to get back into the attacking 4-1-3-2 layout. I’d like two up front. I can’t see McInnes going 4-4-2, so work on a 3-5-2? Lewis Taylor Hoban McKenna Hernandez Ferguson McCrorie McGeouch Hayes McGinn Cosgrove Maybe Deano instead of McGeouch. Link to comment
1903Fitba Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 48 minutes ago, Millertime said: That interview he gave is incredible Can't help but love him and his eagerness is amazing Just shows you, despite what we think re mcinnes, he certainly has pull with the players It’s cringey as fuck. “Massive club” & “Gaffer” two of the most rancid and overused phrases in new signing interviews. The boy asking the questions needs punting as well. 1 Link to comment
CityCentre Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 32 minutes ago, starryfish said: Mcinnes states McCrorie was signed as part of succession planning, possibly got him a year earlier than planned, Ojo out of contract next summer and don’t expect him to renew. I doubt Ojo will play for us much again. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, 1903Fitba said: It’s cringey as fuck. “Massive club” & “Gaffer” two of the most rancid and overused phrases in new signing interviews. The boy asking the questions needs punting as well. At least the subscribers here don't refer to McInnes as "the gaffer". It's partly hilarious and partly extremely nauseating to see the faux genuflection on swallow swallow where Slippy is referred to as that. (although even more hilarious in the wake of dropped points/cup elimination when it's open season on the poor fucker and demands for his sacking take over for a few days) Link to comment
BitWait Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Some even refer to McInnes as hun dmc 1 Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Millertime said: I know Bonkers the players referring to him in a managerial term eh eh???????? Link to comment
Dave Bus Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Anyone else think he’ll be used more as a ball playing centre half. When he first came through at rangers he was described by caixinha as a centre half, was only when murty came in that he played in centre mid. Also played at right back most of last season with Portsmouth so not sure if they saw him suitable for centre mid. 6“3 so got certainly got the height for it as well. McKenna’s exit only being a matter of time and devlin permanently injured/out of contract soon , Hoban (if he stays fit) and McCrorie could be the centre half pairing going forward potentially. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dave Bus said: Anyone else think he’ll be used more as a ball playing centre half. When he first came through at rangers he was described by caixinha as a centre half, was only when murty came in that he played in centre mid. Also played at right back most of last season with Portsmouth so not sure if they saw him suitable for centre mid. 6“3 so got certainly got the height for it as well. McKenna’s exit only being a matter of time and devlin permanently injured/out of contract soon , Hoban (if he stays fit) and McCrorie could be the centre half pairing going forward potentially. No. Read an article where both player & DM apparently see him as a central midfielder. Maybe if there are injuries but predominantly in midfield. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 He'll be playing centre mid by mid september if not before Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, Tord31 said: He'll be playing centre mid by mid september if not before Aye. Thursday most likely. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 49 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Aye. Thursday most likely. He'll be out for 6 months with a knee injury by Thursday most likely Link to comment
Dons21 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Any sign of this supposed number 9 we need? Not liking the short term phrase used by DM. Won’t be anything exciting going by that comment. Some loan youngster with no experience yet again!! Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 RedTV interview is great! He comes across as being unbelievably enthusiastic! confirms he sees himself primarily as a CM... so there has to a least one current CM to move on you’d think? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Ernie McCracken said: In McInnes early years, one of McInnes best traits was quickly identifying when a signing hadn't and wasn't going to work out, rather than futily persevering with them in the hope they would come good. Zola and Wylde are 2 I can think of off the top of my head. Can you imagine if McInnes had decided to stick with Zola instead of signing Rooney!!! That is probably the most ridiculous assessment Of McInnes I have ever on here. clangers, Maynard can easily counter your examples in his favour for your point. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: That is probably the most ridiculous assessment Of McInnes I have ever on here. clangers, Maynard can easily counter your examples in his favour for your point. Clangers was more so an inability to find a keeper who was any better. He did eventually move him on under contract 1 Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: That is probably the most ridiculous assessment Of McInnes I have ever on here. clangers, Maynard can easily counter your examples in his favour for your point. The same Nicky Maynard who was only here a season? Aye that totally counters his argument that McInnes is quick to identify when a signing didn't work out. ?♂️ Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Tord31 said: Clangers was more so an inability to find a keeper who was any better. He did eventually move him on under contract But he also renewed said contract in first place Link to comment
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