Match Thread (Europa League) Aberdeen 6 - 0 Runavik

[StandFree1982]

37 minutes ago, Tord31 said:

Burnley was unlucky. Any goal in the last 30 half an hour of regulation time would have killed the tie off. Unlucky.

Maribor was unlucky with the goal/missed pen/no red card. Unlucky.

Kairat we blew it conceding an away goal at the time in the tie. Blew it.

Apollon we just completely didn't turn up in the away tie. Bottled it.

Sociedad were too good but we ran them closer than expected given the got two of their goals in the last period of the second tie. Write it off to experience.

Rijeka were good but we blew it with that stupid stupid penalty conceded in the first leg. Bottled it.

 

The common theme throughout is conceding away goals at Pittodrie. Something that wont be a problem this year because of the strange format. So you never know.

Rijeka second time around we didn't have a go. We were extremely pedestrian in both legs. 

[redstrummer]

8 minutes ago, Bad_Mobby said:

Granada would be ace (if fans allowed in by then) 

 

gr8 city 

On my list of cities i want to visit . They named a street after Strummer plus the region would be nice to tour around 

[shut up meg]

4 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Wright and Hedges finding form is an unexpected bonus as I thought they'd end up being on the fringe of things before the season started. 

 

It helps that they are allowed to play on the front foot against the minnows though.

They'll soon be blunted again when they are told that their first job in a SPFL game is to stay in a tight formation and stop the oppositions full back from playing.

[sooth_stander]

Happy to be proven wrong regarding Hedges especially, and to a lesser extent, Wright.

Hedges could play the no. 10 role that we haven’t had since Christie’s loan ended. 

[CalgaryDon]

If we were to make the Group stages how much money could we expect make? 15 -20 million?

[NEM]

49 minutes ago, Bad_Mobby said:

Granada would be ace (if fans allowed in by then) 

 

gr8 city 

All 4 qualifying rounds are behind closed doors ?

[Tord31]

53 minutes ago, CalgaryDon said:

If we were to make the Group stages how much money could we expect make? 15 -20 million?

I think we'd need to see what the situation is with crowds/hospitality.

Before this all kicked off we'd have been looking at between £10m and £15m

[CalgaryDon]

18 minutes ago, Millertime said:

No, nowhere near it

Be quiet.

[Ten Caat]

21 minutes ago, CalgaryDon said:

Be quiet.

He's correct though. Possibly we would make roughly half of what was guessed at

[aberdeen1970]

Aye, gate receipts will be severely fucked this season. Tv money and prize money might be the only income. 

[CalgaryDon]

16 minutes ago, Ten Caat said:

He's correct though. Possibly we would make roughly half of what was guessed at

It might be our best chance of qualifying but we don't stand to generate nearly as much from qualifying to the group stage as in previous seasons. 

It would still help the club tremendously if we did. Would probably cover the forecasted loses Cormack spoke of.

 

[Pizzaman]

Does anyone have a link where I can watch the full match from last night?

[sheepcrooky]

1 hour ago, Millertime said:

No, nowhere near it

Agreed. Might make an extra 3-5 million. But, absolutely would be welcome. 
 

 

[Scotty_Toronto]

4 hours ago, CalgaryDon said:

If we were to make the Group stages how much money could we expect make? 15 -20 million?

I believe that there's gate money, TV money, and prize money (listed below).

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Similar to the UEFA Champions League, the prize money received by the clubs is divided into fixed payments based on participation and results, and variable amounts that depend of the value of their TV market.^[20]

For the 2019–20 season, group stage participation in the Europa League awarded a base fee of €2,920,000. A victory in the group pays €570,000 and a draw €190,000. Also, each group winner earns €1,000,000 and each runner-up €500,000. Reaching the knock-out stage triggers additional bonuses: €500,000 for the round of 32, €1,100,000 for the round of 16, €1,500,000 for the quarter-finals and €2,400,000 for the semi-finals. The losing finalists receive €4,500,000 and the champions receive €8,500,000.^[21]

• Preliminary round: €220,000
• First qualifying round: €240,000
• Second qualifying round: €260,000
• Third qualifying round: €280,000
• Play-off round elimination: €300,000
• Base fee for group stage: €2,920,000
• Group match victory: €570,000
• Group match draw: €190,000
• Group winners: €1,000,000
• Group runners-up: €500,000
• Round of 32: €500,000
• Round of 16: €1,100,000
• Quarter-finals: €1,500,000
• Semi-finals: €2,400,000
• Runner-ups: €4,500,000
• Champions: €8,500,000

[aberdeen1970]

This 'variable amounts based on the size of their TV market' pish needs to get to fuck 

[NEM]

6 hours ago, Bad_Mobby said:

I might just go for a piss up, if that’s the bloody case 

Aye fingers crossed for somewhere with lax quarantine rules ?

[Tord31]

1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said:

This 'variable amounts based on the size of their TV market' pish needs to get to fuck 

Thats the Uk contract to Bt sport divided by the Uk teams in it.

So it's a decent deal for a scottish club.

Although you are maybe meaning its a disproportionately good deal for english clubs relative to other countries year on year 

[aberdeen1970]

1 hour ago, Tord31 said:

Thats the Uk contract to Bt sport divided by the Uk teams in it.

So it's a decent deal for a scottish club.

Although you are maybe meaning its a disproportionately good deal for english clubs relative to other countries year on year 

Seedings, country coefficient points, parachutes into the Europa League, TV money as prize money for teams in popular leagues, its all bollocks.  How much more help do the big teams need to stop clubs from smaller nations having any sort of chance to do well? 

[redstrummer]

7 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Seedings, country coefficient points, parachutes into the Europa League, TV money as prize money for teams in popular leagues, its all bollocks.  How much more help do the big teams need to stop clubs from smaller nations having any sort of chance to do well? 

totally agree its a fucking carve up

[aberdeen1970]

And 'country protection' til the fucking quarter finals.  Fuck off with that too. 

[KingswellsRed]

11 hours ago, Scotty_Toronto said:

I believe that there's gate money, TV money, and prize money (listed below).

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Similar to the UEFA Champions League, the prize money received by the clubs is divided into fixed payments based on participation and results, and variable amounts that depend of the value of their TV market.^[20]

For the 2019–20 season, group stage participation in the Europa League awarded a base fee of €2,920,000. A victory in the group pays €570,000 and a draw €190,000. Also, each group winner earns €1,000,000 and each runner-up €500,000. Reaching the knock-out stage triggers additional bonuses: €500,000 for the round of 32, €1,100,000 for the round of 16, €1,500,000 for the quarter-finals and €2,400,000 for the semi-finals. The losing finalists receive €4,500,000 and the champions receive €8,500,000.^[21]

• Preliminary round: €220,000
• First qualifying round: €240,000
• Second qualifying round: €260,000
• Third qualifying round: €280,000
• Play-off round elimination: €300,000
• Base fee for group stage: €2,920,000
• Group match victory: €570,000
• Group match draw: €190,000
• Group winners: €1,000,000
• Group runners-up: €500,000
• Round of 32: €500,000
• Round of 16: €1,100,000
• Quarter-finals: €1,500,000
• Semi-finals: €2,400,000
• Runner-ups: €4,500,000
• Champions: €8,500,000

Wonder whether the prize money is likely to get cut a bit this season?

[muttonhumper]

9 minutes ago, Millertime said:

So in summary, no, nowhere near 15 to 20m

Around 4 or 5 million Euros then. In prize money.

 

€3,218,000 for making the group stage.

Then say 1 win, 2 draws an additional €950,000.

So €4,168,000.

Top up with additional wins, draws, qualifying bonuses if felling optimistic.

 

Home crowds, probably reduced would roughly be balanced out by travel, but being generous, another €1 million from that.

[aberdeen1970]

The loss of around 500k per home game with no crowds is a sore one

[muttonhumper]

52 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

The loss of around 500k per home game with no crowds is a sore one

Aye. Nasty.

I believe no fans for any of the qualifiers? Don't recall where I saw this.

Would then imagine reduced / restricted crowds for the group games? Fuck knows.

[aberdeen1970]

The only consolation is that it hurts the Huns and Celtic even more as they would bring in at least double per home Euro game than us with almost capacity crowds. 

[RUL]

1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said:

The only consolation is that it hurts the Huns and Celtic even more as they would bring in at least double per home Euro game than us with almost capacity crowds. 

This period could be a huge leveller for our game for that very reason. Plus imagine keeping 50,000 folk happy with reduced capacities. Both will be heavily hit. Beautiful.

[DD1903]

15 hours ago, CalgaryDon said:

It might be our best chance of qualifying but we don't stand to generate nearly as much from qualifying to the group stage as in previous seasons. 

It would still help the club tremendously if we did. Would probably cover the forecasted loses Cormack spoke of.

 

 

18 hours ago, CalgaryDon said:

If we were to make the Group stages how much money could we expect make? 15 -20 million?

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[afc1903mad]

16 hours ago, CalgaryDon said:

It might be our best chance of qualifying but we don't stand to generate nearly as much from qualifying to the group stage as in previous seasons. 

It would still help the club tremendously if we did. Would probably cover the forecasted loses Cormack spoke of.

 

I think next season will provide the best chance of qualifying, other than the fact this years games are one off knockouts

Next season, the Scottish Cup winners (or 3rd place), go straight into the Europa League QR3. Only two rounds to qualify for the groups.

If the team is knocked out of the Europa League QR3, they drop into the Europa League Conference Play Off round.

If they win QR3 but lose the Play Off in the Europa League, they drop into the groups for the Europa Conference League.

Two rounds to get to the group stages, whereby if you win the first round, your guaranteed group stage football.

 

All that said, the draws would still be very tough

[Scotty_Toronto]

5 hours ago, muttonhumper said:

€3,218,000 for making the group stage.

4M Euros for making the Group stage.

5 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said:

The loss of around 500k per home game with no crowds is a sore one

I believe Cormack was quoted as saying it was a 300K loss for the Runavik game.

[aberdeen1970]

3 minutes ago, Scotty_Toronto said:

4M Euros for making the Group stage.

I believe Cormack was quoted as saying it was a 300K loss for the Runavik game.

12000 at an average of £25pp?