maryhilldon Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, ericblack4boss said: Well Alex Smith won more trophies than hun DMC, does that make Smith better than the sleekit cunt Aye. Bawhair from winning the title as well. There's no debate. Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Yes, is the correct answer Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Smith and Scott managed it playing attacking football as well. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, ericblack4boss said: On the most trophies decides who is better. Well Alex Smith won more trophies than hun DMC, does that make Smith better than the sleekit cunt Better team Better manager More trophies. There should be no debate really. Link to comment
maryhilldon Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 43 minutes ago, Millertime said: And, taking into account Fergie had a solid base to work from, was what mclean did arguably more impressive? McLean had been in charge of Utd for 9 years and had won 2 cups before Fergie won his first trophy, it could be argued McLeans side had a head start. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said: Best fitba I'd ever seen from AFC, the 90/91 season. Was lucky enough to see all but one game that season (St J away, lost 5) but unluckily was at Ibrox for the Smiffy capitulation. Hated that cunt. Aye, we bottled it that day. We were the team in better form and went down there and played for the draw when we should have ripped them a new one. Link to comment
redstrummer Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 35 minutes ago, Millertime said: I'm not sure it does, entirely should bring the debate to an end https://www.arabarchive.co.uk/headtohead.php?id=19 Link to comment
Fridge Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 I have absolutely no idea where MT is coming from here, nobody is saying JM was a pish manager but quite clearly Fergie was better hence his record. Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Aye, we bottled it that day. We were the team in better form and went down there and played for the draw when we should have ripped them a new one. Every player interviewed, and Jocky Scott have always said that the playing for a draw that day was a falacy, it was never discussed or suggested, Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, ericblack4boss said: Every player interviewed, and Jocky Scott have always said that the playing for a draw that day was a falacy, it was never discussed or suggested, Maybe not, but subconsciously it looked like it when we brought in a defensive midfielder in Van de Ven, for a centre forward in Van der Ark. Ironic that it was Van de Ven who was the one who missed the one on one with Woods. An attempted lob that Woods never had to jump to save. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, ericblack4boss said: Every player interviewed, and Jocky Scott have always said that the playing for a draw that day was a falacy, it was never discussed or suggested, Yeah. But under instruction or not we definitely sat back compared to how we'd played in the games leading up to that game. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said: The only real chance of the game, in the second half. It was a shocking team performance and team selection. Pretty sure the Van de Ven miss was earlyish in the first half as I think it was 0-0 at the time Link to comment
redone Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 50 minutes ago, ericblack4boss said: On the most trophies decides who is better. Well Alex Smith won more trophies than hun DMC, does that make Smith better than the sleekit cunt Far too simplistic to compare managers based on trophies won. The Tims have won more trophies under Lennon than Dundee United did under McLean. Does anyone think Lennon’s a better manager than McLean ? . Link to comment
redone Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Pretty sure the Van de Ven miss was earlyish in the first half as I think it was 0-0 at the time It was. But I reckon the free header Gilhaus had in the first half was just as bad a miss as Van de Ven’s effort. Can’t remember offhand which came first. Link to comment
Guest milne_afc Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Dons shat it that day, McLeish was a disgrace at the second goal. Never heard an atmosphere like it and the Dons never really recovered, became an also ran. Unfortunately coincided with the end of a purple patch. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, redone said: It was. But I reckon the free header Gilhaus had in the first half was just as bad a miss as Van de Ven’s effort. Can’t remember offhand which came first. Gillhaus near post header Van de Ven one on one. FFS - the worst day of my footballing days coming flooding back. Our one & only chance to win the league at the Bastard garden. Blown FTH Link to comment
redone Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Gillhaus near post header Van de Ven one on one. FFS - the worst day of my footballing days coming flooding back. Our one & only chance to win the league at the Bastard garden. Blown FTH Wasn’t a near post header. My recollection is he was at the back post. Link to comment
Guest milne_afc Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, redone said: Wasn’t a near post header. My recollection is he was at the back post. Correct. He had too long to think about it and made a right balls up. Headed about 20ft over the bar Link to comment
redone Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, milne_afc said: Correct. He had too long to think about it and made a right balls up. Headed about 20ft over the bar That was more the problem with Van de Ven....he had loads of time and a few options to finish, but never fully committed to anything and just poked it tamely straight at the keeper. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, redone said: Wasn’t a near post header. My recollection is he was at the back post. Aye maybe. The cross was a bit high though? Just now, redone said: That was more the problem with Van de Ven....he had loads of time and a few options to finish, but never fully committed to anything and just poked it tamely straight at the keeper. The ball broke to him after a brilliant McKimmie 50/50 tackle was won. It was a horrendous miss. If we’d scored first the scum would’ve crumbled. Link to comment
Fridge Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Darkest day of my life. Had Snelders nae been fucked we would have won. Scumbags were on there knees, they had just got beat 3-0 from Motherwell. Nae sure about the draw thing if it was an actual tactic or not, but we did seem to sit back more than we did in fantastic performances in the run before that. Link to comment
Jocky Balboa Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, rocket_scientist said: Dunno how you guys can remember the details of that game. I was there and canna mind as it was a blur, the most horrible day ever experienced in fitba, by absolute miles. Was in a daze for hours afterwards, horrible, horrible day. Smith's team selection was the ultimate defeatist statement in footballing history. Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, milne_afc said: Dons shat it that day, McLeish was a disgrace at the second goal. Never heard an atmosphere like it and the Dons never really recovered, became an also ran. Unfortunately coincided with the end of a purple patch. McLeish didn’t shite it, he had a dodgy ankle at the end of that season and probably shouldn’t have played but as captain, felt he had no option Link to comment
Ke1t Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 The only way to exorcise the demons of that day is to win the league, preferably at Ibrox. So... that's the target for 2021. Link to comment
super_al Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Why did Mclean step down as manager in 1993? Was it not the season before they were relegated? Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, super_al said: Why did Mclean step down as manager in 1993? Was it not the season before they were relegated? For banjoing the BBC reporter? Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Ke1t said: The only way to exorcise the demons of that day is to win the league, preferably at Ibrox. So... that's the target for 2021. Christmas is done, Kelt. Put the Sherry away Link to comment
OddJob Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 4 hours ago, rocket_scientist said: Hateley doing Watt early was a bad sign for the bad day that unfolded. Correct. Fucking assault and that was it. Guys confidence was totally shattered after that. As been said that effort from Van Der Ven was horrific, sure he had Gillhaus to the left of him too for a tap in Link to comment
Ke1t Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Christmas is done, Kelt. Put the Sherry away Reach for the stars but keep your feet on the ground. All we need is belief, determination, a better manager, and 10 million on players. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, Ke1t said: Reach for the stars but keep your feet on the ground. All we need is belief, determination, a better manager, and 10 million on players. The first three, no problem. Link to comment
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