Scottish Independence Referendum 2

[The Boofon]

2 hours ago, Clydeside_Sheep said:

Ghastly is the word.

Her make up was about 1" thick and yet still could not hide the massive dark bags under her eyes.

Obviously sitting up late with her husband, trying to recount what lies they have already told and what possible lies remain open to them in light of this.  Stressful business.

If this brings her down, there no obvious successor - unless the Salmond faction manages to retake the party.  However, by now it is stuffed with Sturgeon cultists and femi-nazi loyalists.

Her support would be more likely to try to elevate Humza Yousef, especially if Labour elect Anas Sarwar.  Homosexual predator Derek Mackay was meant to be her protege, but then he pissed on his chips. 

They would be happy with Yousef, as his background would still represent woke "progress"   (and match Labour in that regard) but he has nowhere near the Universal appeal of Sturgeon or Salmond.

Aye that puts me right off politics when someone is talking and they've a load of make up on.

 

 

[The beard of mcinnes]

2 hours ago, Ten Caat said:

 

Sturgeon's handling of the coronavirus situation has been exemplary compared to Westminster

 

 

 

There is this narrative that has taken hold in regards to the above, but the data shows that Scotland has not been materially less impacted than the rest of the UK.
She has made numerous mistakes over the handling of the pandemic but never seems to get called out for it, lack of an opposition and a compliant press that is at succulent lamb levels towards her.

[Redforever86]

We(/she) had no chance, open borders into the UK plus millions of English, Welsh and Northern Irish visiting throughout the summer. All while they had a terrible track and trace system and heaps of people all over the UK broke rules. 

[manboobs109]

53 minutes ago, Redforever86 said:

We(/she) had no chance, open borders into the UK plus millions of English, Welsh and Northern Irish visiting throughout the summer. All while they had a terrible track and trace system and heaps of people all over the UK broke rules. 

I know I sound like a broken record but her obsession with fucking around with the rules regarding pubs etc made her look ridiculous though. Drink inside,outside with food,without food,curfew,closed, open again, no alcohol, open, closed. She's dithered as much as him and done as many ridiculous non scientific things. The fact she published those levels criteria then basically completely ignored them(and still does) adds to all that as well.

[manboobs109]

30 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

Mon Moobs, each and every time they reacted with what they thought was best for that period.  There's no secret agenda here. 

Still incompetent flapping though Hanzo. The levels thing especially. She's been slow as fuck to get a lot of the money out to people as well. 

[Bluto10]

this thread is ace

 

up there with the politics ones as the forums best

 

 

LOL

 

(yes :coool::beers:)

 

[Fridge]

41 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

Mon Moobs, each and every time they reacted with what they thought was best for that period.  There's no secret agenda here. 

Disagree a bit on this Hanzoid, whilst I do not for one second think either of them were deliberately putting folk at risk, they were both playing politics. Brexit for BJ, Independence for Nicola.

They should have been having joint press conferences via webcam at least once a week and despite it being complete rhetoric saying we’re all in this together, not trying to see how it could help their agenda’s.

[Jocky Balboa]

I think Angus Robertson is a likely successor, given he's a Sturgeon loyalist (and other reasons, which cannot be legally discussed yet) but on the other hand, he has both a non-trans penis and is white, so that may rule him out. Sturgeon *allegedly* likes Cherry, but the French kind, not the Joanna kind, so the latter will only succeed if the Sturrell Mafia go down (politically, that is). 

[Parklife]

31 minutes ago, Jocky Balboa said:

I think Angus Robertson is a likely successor, given he's a Sturgeon loyalist (and other reasons, which cannot be legally discussed yet) but on the other hand, he has both a non-trans penis and is white, so that may rule him out. Sturgeon *allegedly* likes Cherry, but the French kind, not the Joanna kind, so the latter will only succeed if the Sturrell Mafia go down (politically, that is). 

How come you didn't answer my question? 

 

On 1/24/2021 at 3:18 PM, Parklife said:

Serious question Jocky but you've been critical in the past of the SNP and said you feel they don't really care about independence and care more about being in power (I'm paraphrasing, apologies if you feel that's inaccurate). However, do you feel what appears to be a more aggressive approach to Indy this week (essentially saying we'll hold a referendum regardless) is a step in the right direction? 

 

[Don Fonte]

4 hours ago, Fridge said:

Disagree a bit on this Hanzoid, whilst I do not for one second think either of them were deliberately putting folk at risk, they were both playing politics. Brexit for BJ, Independence for Nicola.

They should have been having joint press conferences via webcam at least once a week and despite it being complete rhetoric saying we’re all in this together, not trying to see how it could help their agenda’s.

With Wales and NI as well?

[Jocky Balboa]

18 hours ago, Parklife said:

How come you didn't answer my question? 

 

 

Hi Parky, apologies that was an unintentional oversight on my part. My view is that it is posturing, as long as they toe their own line about a Section 30 order being the "good standard". They know full well no UK PM will acquiesce to one, knowing they will likely lose. Their legacy would be forever tainted as the one who lost Scotland - and thus the UK - and even a PM who doesn't like Scotland (i.e. BoJo the Clown) doesn't want that on their record. So I think that, unless the Martin Keating's case succeeds AND the SNP leadership are wiped out, they will keep dangling carrots to the happy clappers singing "just one more mandate, give it to me!" and watching as the UK PMs rebuff as nauseum... While they continue pocketing their Westminster salaries and expenses, building up nice pension pots and laughing their arses off at our expense.

 

I can just picture SNP stalls at the Glasgow Barras in the not too distant future... "roll up, roll up, big man byraway... get yer Krankie's Karrots. Two bags fer a pound, two bags fer a pound, jist wan mair mandate!"

[Jocky Balboa]

On 1/24/2021 at 3:30 PM, rocket_scientist said:

Let's not rule out the possibility that the two of them had relations of an intimate kind, whether consensual or whether he tried it on with her.

He was correctly found innocent because the evidence didn't prove beyond reasonable doubt but let's not kid ourselves, he's a sleazeball groper who's behaviour wasn't illegal when he was a younger man. Married a hook-nosed ugly woman who is much older than him so probably coveted extra curricular. He's a fucking weirdo. 

On this rare occasion, I disagree with you RS. I followed the court case meticulously, courtesy of the excellent blogger Grouse Beater who provided court transcripts daily. It was established that not only was AS innocent of criminality, but the serious events could not have occurred (with the exception of a mutual drunken cuddle, from which both backed off and he issued an official apology, accepted by the lady and they continued working together for some time). In other words, they were lying and are the criminals.

I also strongly suggest you read Craig Murray's sworn testimony on his blog today. He may be a maverick to many, but he too reported on the AS case with great forensic skill and his testimony is absolute dynamite here. If lying, he'd be perjuring himself to the point where he's facing years in jail. If truthful, this testimony concludes Sturgeon and Murrell have been architects of this from the get go.

I'm going to refrain from explicit details, but I figured out several of the alphabet sisters some time ago (via mainstream Unionist media jigsaw identification) hence why I have been supremely confident on here that she is up to her neck in it. I stand by everything I've ever posted about the FM and her inner circle here and liken their despicable behaviour to a banana republic regime, not one with aspirations to run an independent social democracy. Until they go, I won't be back on board with the SNP, or even independence, because if this is tolerated, what is the point, when we're no better than the corrupt system we wish to escape?

[Henry]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-plea-significant-numbers-young-people-leave-snp-trans-rights-row-3115293%3Famp
 

Sturgeonater sorting out the big issues on Twitter 

Aye, transphobia. 

[For Fecks Sake]

Budget Day!!!

(©Cockney Don)

[daytripping]

12 hours ago, Jocky Balboa said:

On this rare occasion, I disagree with you RS. I followed the court case meticulously, courtesy of the excellent blogger Grouse Beater who provided court transcripts daily. It was established that not only was AS innocent of criminality, but the serious events could not have occurred (with the exception of a mutual drunken cuddle, from which both backed off and he issued an official apology, accepted by the lady and they continued working together for some time). In other words, they were lying and are the criminals.

I also strongly suggest you read Craig Murray's sworn testimony on his blog today. He may be a maverick to many, but he too reported on the AS case with great forensic skill and his testimony is absolute dynamite here. If lying, he'd be perjuring himself to the point where he's facing years in jail. If truthful, this testimony concludes Sturgeon and Murrell have been architects of this from the get go.

I'm going to refrain from explicit details, but I figured out several of the alphabet sisters some time ago (via mainstream Unionist media jigsaw identification) hence why I have been supremely confident on here that she is up to her neck in it. I stand by everything I've ever posted about the FM and her inner circle here and liken their despicable behaviour to a banana republic regime, not one with aspirations to run an independent social democracy. Until they go, I won't be back on board with the SNP, or even independence, because if this is tolerated, what is the point, when we're no better than the corrupt system we wish to escape?

Craig Murray's statement is mind blowing, if it's proved it could even see sturgeon jailed. It's looking more and more likely the Salmond case was built on lies and was a total fabrication in an attempt to destroy his political career. The person behind it all....sturgeon.

[Henry]

13 minutes ago, daytripping said:

Craig Murray's statement is mind blowing, if it's proved it could even see sturgeon jailed. It's looking more and more likely the Salmond case was built on lies and was a total fabrication in an attempt to destroy his political career. The person behind it all....sturgeon.

Could you give a one or two sentence summary please min.

[daytripping]

10 minutes ago, Henry said:

Could you give a one or two sentence summary please min.

Sturgeon invented the abuse claims and got women to lie about them, she wanted Salmond out of the picture. 

[caledonia]

1 hour ago, daytripping said:

Craig Murray's statement is mind blowing, if it's proved it could even see sturgeon jailed. It's looking more and more likely the Salmond case was built on lies and was a total fabrication in an attempt to destroy his political career. The person behind it all....sturgeon.

Its an affidavit made under oath so  take it he would not risk lying otherwise he could be jailed.

I have wanted independence all my life but to stitch someone up for rape if true must be the lowest of the low.

And if this sort of thing along with the GRA crew bullying is what we get now what would it be like come independence 

 

[davieb]

1 hour ago, daytripping said:

Sturgeon invented the abuse claims and got women to lie about them, she wanted Salmond out of the picture. 

Doubtful, Murray is delusional

[The Boofon]

2 hours ago, Sooper-hanz said:

Did you hear about the constipated Chancellor of the exchequer..., ?

Yes.

[Joe pike]

Public sector pay going up in the Scottish budget.

Most of them have been sitting on their arse at home skiving on full pay for the last 9 months.

All the time small businesses are going slowly broke or already busted.

[caledonia]

17 minutes ago, Joe pike said:

Public sector pay going up in the Scottish budget.

Most of them have been sitting on their arse at home skiving on full pay for the last 9 months.

All the time small businesses are going slowly broke or already busted.

Missed out the bit all Scottish Taxpayers to pay less Tax

[Jocky Balboa]

23 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

Personally I can’t believe that those women would take the stand and just lie about something so serious . I refuse to believe that . 

I and many others didn't want to believe it either, but the lure of power corrupts and corrupts absolutely. If you read the evidence, you'll see several of the women stated they were reluctant to proceed with complaints, but were effectively coerced by Leslie Evans and the Sturrell Mafia, especially after the civil case ruling the investigation was wholly improper and, if I recall correctly, illegal. 

This whole thing stinks and is more akin to a third world banana republic than a developed country with aspirations to be an independent state. 

[Joe pike]

7 minutes ago, caledonia said:

Missed out the bit all Scottish Taxpayers to pay less Tax

Not all taxpayers are to pay less tax.

Easy to do if you just stick your hand out for more money.

This budget is entirely dependant on the UK budget.

 

[Joe pike]

6 minutes ago, Jocky Balboa said:

I and many others didn't want to believe it either, but the lure of power corrupts and corrupts absolutely. If you read the evidence, you'll see several of the women stated they were reluctant to proceed with complaints, but were effectively coerced by Leslie Evans and the Sturrell Mafia, especially after the civil case ruling the investigation was wholly improper and, if I recall correctly, illegal. 

This whole thing stinks and is more akin to a third world banana republic than a developed country with aspirations to be an independent state. 

Yep Murrell,Sturgeon and Evans have all been found out to be lying already.

[afc_blockhead]

8 minutes ago, Joe pike said:

Not all taxpayers are to pay less tax.

Easy to do if you just stick your hand out for more money.

This budget is entirely dependant on the UK budget.

 

Exactly.

People pleasing headline. With the economy fucked by Covid (Scotland's and the UK's as a whole) in which world do people believe that we will all pay less tax and somehow not endure pain/financial cost in other areas? Fantasist stuff.

[NEM]

22 minutes ago, caledonia said:

Missed out the bit all Scottish Taxpayers to pay less Tax

How are they proposing to fund that?  

[caledonia]

14 minutes ago, Joe pike said:

Not all taxpayers are to pay less tax.

Easy to do if you just stick your hand out for more money.

This budget is entirely dependant on the UK budget.

 

 

5 minutes ago, afc_blockhead said:

Exactly.

People pleasing headline. With the economy fucked by Covid (Scotland's and the UK's as a whole) in which world do people believe that we will all pay less tax and somehow not endure pain/financial cost in other areas? Fantasist stuff.

Scotland 2021 raging about paying less tax

[afc_blockhead]

1 minute ago, NEM said:

How are they proposing to fund that?  

People like him don't think about those things. They just nod at the headline the SNP want them too.

https://www.moneyexpert.com/news/snp-freeze-income-tax-rates-2022/

A random example from 2016 , the SNP promised to freeze income tax rates until 2022. You will find many other examples over the years of them promising similar things.

Don't know how some people fall for that shit over and over.

[Joe pike]

18 minutes ago, caledonia said:

 

Scotland 2021 raging about paying less tax

All these goodies have anything to do with elections coming up?