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#61 OFFLINE   sooth_stander

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 09:53 AM

 

Surely the words " there's nothing sinister" should be in quotes as well? 

Correct. Should have been.

 

However, going by his reply to me, if he's still deemed not fit enough, why did he come off the bench v the Cypriots, and why did he indeed start v Hamiton 10 days later? Or did the manager need to see him in 1st team action to allow him to make that assesment? Wouldn't have thought so. And why, then,  hasn't he started an U20 game lately, pre the international break?

 

Whilst there may indeed be "nothing sinister", the only conclusion to be drawn is that the Iceman is not cutting it in training during the week. Our defence has looked ropey even before the Partick game, plenty of requirement and necessity to have brought in Kari weeks ago.


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#62 OFFLINE   Donnet

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 10:00 AM

Correct. Should have been.

 

However, going by his reply to me, if he's still deemed not fit enough, why did he come off the bench v the Cypriots, and why did he indeed start v Hamiton 10 days later? Or did the manager need to see him in 1st team action to allow him to make that assesment? Wouldn't have thought so. And why, then,  hasn't he started an U20 game lately, pre the international break?

 

Whilst there may indeed be "nothing sinister", the only conclusion to be drawn is that the Iceman is not cutting it in training during the week. Our defence has looked ropey even before the Partick game, plenty of requirement and necessity to have brought in Kari weeks ago.

 

What did McInnes say to these follow up questions when you were in the room with him?


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#63 OFFLINE   Donnet

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 10:00 AM

P.S Arnason isn't playing cause he's shite.


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Posted 08 September 2017 - 10:02 AM

I think a lot of people look back on Arnason's season here with rose tinted specs on. We were utterly rotten back then, wouldn't be hard to look half decent. 


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Posted 08 September 2017 - 11:13 AM

I think a lot of people look back on Arnason's season here with rose tinted specs on. We were utterly rotten back then, wouldn't be hard to look half decent. 

 

A lot of people have also seen him go on and play excellent at a higher level than the SPFL since that season.


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Posted 08 September 2017 - 11:17 AM

I think a lot of people look back on Arnason's season here with rose tinted specs on. We were utterly rotten back then, wouldn't be hard to look half decent. 

Think we failed to win 22 of the games he played when he was here and looked average/slightly better than those around him.

 

 

A lot of people have also seen him go on and play excellent at a higher level than the SPFL since that season.

Rubbish, it's a small sample size, at the very most some of our fans have seen him play 5 games at the most.


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Posted 08 September 2017 - 11:20 AM

Think we failed to win 22 of the games he played when he was here and looked average/slightly better than those around him.

 

Rubbish, it's a small sample size, at the very most some of our fans have seen him play 5 games at the most.

 

So if they've seen him play five games at a far higher level than we play, and excel in them, in addition to him being above average last time he played for us, then that's not sufficient?


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Posted 08 September 2017 - 11:28 AM

 

A lot of people have also seen him go on and play excellent at a higher level than the SPFL since that season.

 

Not saying he's a bad player, just saying I can see why he's not an automatic pick. He'll get his fair share of minutes during the season. 


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Posted 08 September 2017 - 11:38 AM

 

So if they've seen him play five games at a far higher level than we play, and excel in them, in addition to him being above average last time he played for us, then that's not sufficient?

he didn't excel in them, had he not said that horrible quote no cunt would've cared about him, was he excelling when his team shipped 16 goals in the champions league?


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Posted 08 September 2017 - 12:14 PM

Well, I'm going to say losing 8-0 to Real Madrid is an outlier, and go yes. Don't imagine O'Connor or Reynolds would keep a clean sheet against Shakhtar.


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Posted 08 September 2017 - 12:37 PM

Arnason isn't a world beater.  Never has been.  He's better than Mark Reynolds though.


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Posted 08 September 2017 - 04:11 PM

Arnason isn't a world beater.  Never has been.  He's better than Mark Reynolds though.

 

Is the correct answer.


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Posted 09 September 2017 - 01:30 AM

'Nothing sinister' seems like an odd turn of phrase. It suggests something sinister's afoot.
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 01:55 AM

Kari is the general. End of.
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 08:01 AM

'Nothing sinister' seems like an odd turn of phrase. It suggests something sinister's afoot.


Lol.

What would be a better phase? "Something sinister"?
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 08:54 AM

Why don't you lot get over the arneson saga. You sound like a bunch of old woman with sliver running down your chins that have f---- all to do except discuss all the soaps on TV. He is 35 and obviously not up to it anymore and Mcinnes sees this move on.
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 09:03 AM

Why don't you lot get over the arneson saga.


Who?

You really are a bit of a tit aren't you?
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 09:07 AM

Why don't you lot get over the arneson saga. You sound like a bunch of old woman with sliver running down your chins that have f---- all to do except discuss all the soaps on TV. He is 35 and obviously not up to it anymore and Mcinnes sees this move on.


'Sliver down your chins'... amusing comment by you.
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 09:31 AM

Definitely elements of rose tinted glasses with Arnason. He was a slightly above average player in a poor Aberdeen team and mainly played central midfield. this was also 6 years ago. Yes. He had a good tournament last summer with Iceland at centre back but most of us have probably not seen much of him over the last few years outwith the odd international game.

I think we need to be realistic. He's going to be a squad player. The signing of Ball makes it even harder for him.
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 12:05 PM

He marked Ronaldo out the game at euros?

an injured Ronaldo


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Posted 11 September 2017 - 10:27 AM

http://www.dailyreco...ourite-11144866

 

Daily Record making note of Arnason's lack of game time. 


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Posted 11 September 2017 - 12:00 PM

http://www.dailyreco...ourite-11144866

 

Daily Record making note of Arnason's lack of game time. 

 

Must be a slow news day for the cunts


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Posted 11 September 2017 - 12:11 PM

I think the Record piece is bang on. So many unanswered questions. If he's a spent force, why did we take him here, paying money for him too, apparently? Wouldn't reflect at all well on our management, if indeed that is the case.
 
Signing was out of character straight from the off by McInnes, given the player's nationality.
 
One thing that I do know was that he picked up an injury the thursday before the Dundee game. I was at the club shop that day and he was limping badly, into the players entrance, coming back from training at dinnertime, so I was stunned that he even made the bench for the game two days later.
 
It smacks of Callum Morris and Miles Storey. The Pittodrie Bermuda Triangle

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 01:24 PM

Apparently Arnie has been struggling with a back injury not long after joining. He has been kept in reserve as a precaution until it clears up. Nothing serious but I believe Iceland weren't aware of the issue and he had some trouble after there first game hence the reason he was dropped for the 2nd game. He played well that first game for them so it wasn't down to his performance.


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Posted 15 September 2017 - 08:09 PM

Apparently Arnie has been struggling with a back injury not long after joining. He has been kept in reserve as a precaution until it clears up. Nothing serious but I believe Iceland weren't aware of the issue and he had some trouble after there first game hence the reason he was dropped for the 2nd game. He played well that first game for them so it wasn't down to his performance.


Source?

I hope this is true, don't want the big guy to be a flop signing.
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Posted 15 September 2017 - 09:01 PM

@ rumpus you are wrong. Facts ^


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Posted 15 September 2017 - 10:04 PM

Apparently Arnie has been struggling with a back injury not long after joining. He has been kept in reserve as a precaution until it clears up. Nothing serious but I believe Iceland weren't aware of the issue and he had some trouble after there first game hence the reason he was dropped for the 2nd game. He played well that first game for them so it wasn't down to his performance.

He took a couple of hefty challenges in the last ten minutes of the Finland game when Iceland were pressing for the equaliser. Up until then he was getting up and down the pitch okay. This has probably set back his progress a little and the reason Iceland did not risk him in the second match. He is a class act and Derek will not play him until he feels he is totally fit. Then and only then is the time for the fans to judge whether he is past his best or not. 


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Posted 16 September 2017 - 10:44 AM

Well, he started him weeks ago.

Aye, and his passes were all hitting me in the coupon high up in the stand. Maybe I am being sentimental about the guy, due to his last spell with us, but I do not believe a good player like Arnason turns into a donkey overnight. Once his fitness and love for the game returns, which Derek will be doing his hardest to ensure, we will have a top defender in the team.


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Posted 16 September 2017 - 01:32 PM

Give them hell, you sexy bastard.
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Posted 16 September 2017 - 04:35 PM

Bit shite.
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