Out Of Contract

[CityCentre]

I'm not buying that Shinnie has any agreement with the Huns, simply because there is no way the Huns nor the Daily Retard etc would be keeping that quiet. 

 

They did with Jack.

[Sheepo]

They did with Jack.

No they didn't Mcinnes was forced to come out and say he had spoken to the Rat and he said there was nothing in the story linking him with Sevco, this was around March time

[Ten Caat]

Not how I remember it. Jack told everyone he was USA bound. Whether he was lying about that only he will know but that's the story the press were running with . Again, whether he was lying or the USA move genuinely did break down, once the papers got wind that he was sevco bound, at that point they reported it. To insinuate that there was some conspiracy to keep things quiet in the press is just bizarre. They need sensational stories to sell copies. Jack to sevco was hardly sensational and not worth their while sitting on so as soon as they found out it was in print the next day.

[G31DON]

So why did Naismith join them in preference to us? Better for his career??? I don't think so....

Maybe because he was told Logan would be first choice, maybe he fancied trying to make a name for himself and work his way up the leagues, maybe he met some dons fans and thought they were a bit dim?

 

Just because you can't believe he choose Peterborough doesn't mean he is getting paid something like 6k a week.

[Ten Caat]

I didn't say he was. I stated that Peterborough's offer blew ours out the water....no mention of £6k/ week for Naismith. Read back.

 

If we offered him our average wage of around £2.6k/week and Peterborough offered him say £4k/week...isn't that blowing ours out the water? And where would you choose to go if you were going to to earn over £150k more over a 3 year contract? For that reason I most certainly can believe he chose Peterborough. I'm not saying whatever he got down there we couldn't match if we wanted to. It's just we wouldn't...DM ( or the board) obviously felt he wasnt worth it.

[GDON21]

I'm not buying that Shinnie has any agreement with the Huns, simply because there is no way the Huns nor the Daily Retard etc would be keeping that quiet. 

 

No agreement but he has spoken to them this week. 

[oilcat]

No agreement but he has spoken to them this week. 

Spoken to them the week before we are due to play them in our biggest game of the season?.....I shaks ma heed....

[RedForever]

No agreement but he has spoken to them this week. 

 

How would you know that then??

[cruzcampo3]

Season tickets for next year now on sale club trying to rake in money from the gullible lot in our support who will jump at the chance of being top reds claiming money going to new contracts

[oilcat]

Season tickets for next year now on sale club trying to rake in money from the gullible lot in our support who will jump at the chance of being top reds claiming money going to new contracts

 

Just recieved an email about that as well....PR shambles

[Henry]

How would you know that then??

 

Same source that confirmed McInnes was going to the huns.

[GDON21]

Same source that confirmed McInnes was going to the huns.

 

Yes so feel free to mark it as rubbish but I believe it. 

[G31DON]

I didn't say he was. I stated that Peterborough's offer blew ours out the water....no mention of £6k/ week for Naismith. Read back.

 

If we offered him our average wage of around £2.6k/week (HOLY FUCK YOU'VE ALREADY SAID AVERAGE WAGE TAKES IN YOUTH PLAYERS SO THE AVERAGE FOR A 1ST TEAM PLAYER WOULD BE HIGHER) and Peterborough offered him say £4k/week...isn't that blowing ours out the water? And where would you choose to go if you were going to to earn over £150k more over a 3 year contract? For that reason I most certainly can believe he chose Peterborough. I'm not saying whatever he got down there we couldn't match if we wanted to. It's just we wouldn't...DM ( or the board) obviously felt he wasnt worth it.

 

"And Naismith getting wages at Peterborough that we couldn't match"

 

You like to pick and choose which bits you you want to listen to, while contradicting yourself?

 

The last sentence is probably all you needed to say, I agree with that!

[BWG]

I love how Peterborough used the money they conned us out of for Forrester to buy Naismith.  Only AFC.

[G31DON]

I love how Peterborough used the money they conned us out of for Forrester to buy Naismith.  Only AFC.

 

Wouldn't buy a second hand car from Barry Fry, never mind a £250k (plus wages, plus signing on fee, plus fuck off fee) footballer.

[fine-n-dandy]

The club have offered the biggest package ever to keep shinnie, for me I'd rather he went than have us fork out a silly amount of money to keep an average at best midfielder who can't tackle, has limited shooting and passing.  If he goes to rangers then fuck him for stringing us along and going to them but if they want to pay him over £10k a week it shows just how desperate they are.

Totally agree.

 

 

Wonder if we have even approached Jake Hastie/his agent, or if the speculation of Huns & English teams has meant we didn't even consider the idea?

 

We need a decent replacement for GMS on wing & I would much prefer we were spending on good young potential, like with Ferguson (& he is a good advert for other potential signings of his ilk) young keen Scottish prospects.

Development fee required but easily worth it.

GMS is gone basically, McGinn is still producing a bit but we could probably get as much on left wing from Hastie as him but his potential is greater & we already have McLennan for the right.

 

Just need to find the next young creative central mid to compliment Ferguson & replace Shinnie.

[fine-n-dandy]

Wouldn't buy a second hand car from Barry Fry, never mind a £250k (plus wages, plus signing on fee, plus fuck off fee) footballer.

CILLIT BANG!!!!!!

[Ten Caat]

"And Naismith getting wages at Peterborough that we couldn't match"

 

You like to pick and choose which bits you you want to listen to, while contradicting yourself?

 

The last sentence is probably all you needed to say, I agree with that!

FFS you really are remedial. Yes our average wage includes youth players who lower the average wage. I'll try to make this simple for you but that might be beyond you too.

 

Ok let's assume our first team squad has 25 players. And the youths also have around 25 players signed up (we will say U19 as those players will all be on initial contracts at or around national minimum wage) but lets be generous and say we pay them £400/wk ( we absolutely don't!!). Now how much would the have to pay your average first team player to reach our AVERAGE wage. You can use a calculator if you so desire..it works out at £4800!

 

Now obviously the first team squad do not each earn £4800/wk...they are on individual contracts each based on what the club deem they are worth. Nor are all the youths on £400/wk...some who do well will quickly be rewarded with better longer contracts but the first team squad will have some higher than £2600 average eg Joe, Shinnie, May, McKenna, McGinn between £4-5k, some around the average maybe slightly higher or lower eg Logan, Ferguson ( his new contract), Devlin and some significantly lower ( young players stepping up from youths onto their first "senior" contract) eg McLennan, Wright etc.

 

Now if you don't get this..? I f@ckin give up!

[G31DON]

So what you're saying is, that we could have afforded Naismith no problem. Gotcha chief, glad you agree with me.

[aberdeen1970]

Does anyone actually know whether our offer was blown out of the water by Peterborough or is this just speculation.

 

Lots of figures being bandied about but surely non one actually knows the value of either offer?

[G31DON]

He's making me doubt my own sanity. Is Ten Caat a metamorphosis of Franz Kafka? I demand to know

[cruzcampo3]

CILLIT BANG!!!!!!

Great in the inspiral Carpets

[Tord31]

decisions at the split thankfully

[aberdeen1970]

I thought Considine would have signed an extension by now.

 

I know he's not a favourite with many but he'd surely be seen as a useful squad player?

 

Is he for the off this time?

[Tord31]

Consi surely signing on again. Been a stalwart for McInnes

[aberdeen1970]

That's what I thought but we're into March. Would surely be an easy deal to make?

[TheRock]

We're assuming he'd sign a contract if offered. This next one could easily be his last one and perhaps he fancies trying something different. I dunno. That's not a prediction or anything. Just saying, the lack of a contract extention may not necessarily be down to the club/McInnes.

 

McInnes gets asked about Shinnie and GMS. Does anyone ever ask about Considine?

[aberdeen1970]

I don't think anyone asks him about Considine, or at least it's not reported.

 

You could be right, maybe he's been offered one year but wants something a bit longer who knows. Or maybe his current deal triggers an extension?

 

You just can't see McInnes letting him go when he's still contributing and you can't see Andy wanting to go.

[cruzcampo3]

I don't think anyone asks him about Considine, or at least it's not reported.

You could be right, maybe he's been offered one year but wants something a bit longer who knows. Or maybe his current deal triggers an extension?

You just can't see McInnes letting him go when he's still contributing and you can't see Andy wanting to go.

Considine will sign what ever is put in front of him, Aberdeen loon loves the club and imaging he knows he’s on a good number here.

 

Will be a gentleman’s agreement

[cruzcampo3]

If anyone still believes Shinnie and GMS are staying are clutching to straws. Offers on table for a while doubt they will keep upping the offer each time.

 

Better players have came and gone.