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Scottish Independence Referendum 2


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Should Scotland be an independent country?  

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  1. 1. Should Scotland be an independent country?

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    • No
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1 minute ago, rocket_scientist said:

:hysterical: Who the fuck do you think you are?

I remember the days when you stayed in your biscuit tin. You've gotten bolden in these times of the weegie sucking your cock, the mutants taking over and you not getting challenged on the shite you post.

SBS? What the fuck were you thinking by lying about that? Stealing valour. Sad as fuck. 

@Bebo 2 weeks in the slammer for rocket, needs a little time to think things over. Thanks.

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8 hours ago, muttonhumper said:

I'd not dismantle it so much as describe it as a strange unreferenced work of fiction, created to confirm the writers beliefs.

I don't even know where to start looking at the data as you don't know where it is from. 
 

For example official figures put Scotland's GDP at  

2019

£30,777  -> $45072.02 as quoted would need an exchange rate of 1.48 it was around 1.37 (which would put the figure at 41205 and slot Scotland in at 12 not 9 based on the other numbers but again where are they from what are they based on.) 

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Apparently Joanna Cherry has been sacked from the front bench. I'm not aware of any official reason given, but it's common knowledge the Sturrell Mafia hate her and want to prevent her usurping the throne. The SNP is an absolute shambles and I have to say, a lot of the independence movement have to take responsibility for this, due to years of "SNP until independence, no matter what... wheesht for indy... etc." 

It's New Labour in Scotland Mk. II, a party full of hard-left nutjobs, right-leaning neoliberals, careerist chancers, NEDs looking for an easy meal ticket and paper shuffling bureaucrats, all of whom achieve little. Remember when Labour's Scottish MP's were called "The Feeble Fifty" in the face of Thatcher's mob? Are the SNP cohort any more effective now?

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Ridiculous decision by the SNP. I really hope she launches a bid for the leadership once the Holyrood election is over. Kow-towing to the trans lobby essentially saying that their minority but ever loudening and demanding voice trumps genuine concerns that women in general (not just feminists) have

Sturgeon is on rocky ground anyway. The Salmond fiasco isn't just going to go away as if by magic. If some are to be believed, she might even end up in the dock herself over it.

 

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29 minutes ago, Ten Caat said:

Ridiculous decision by the SNP. I really hope she launches a bid for the leadership once the Holyrood election is over. Kow-towing to the trans lobby essentially saying that their minority but ever loudening and demanding voice trumps genuine concerns that women in general (not just feminists) have

Sturgeon is on rocky ground anyway. The Salmond fiasco isn't just going to go away as if by magic. If some are to be believed, she might even end up in the dock herself over it.

 

Fingers crossed

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1 hour ago, Jocky Balboa said:

Apparently Joanna Cherry has been sacked from the front bench. I'm not aware of any official reason given, but it's common knowledge the Sturrell Mafia hate her and want to prevent her usurping the throne. The SNP is an absolute shambles and I have to say, a lot of the independence movement have to take responsibility for this, due to years of "SNP until independence, no matter what... wheesht for indy... etc." 

It's New Labour in Scotland Mk. II, a party full of hard-left nutjobs, right-leaning neoliberals, careerist chancers, NEDs looking for an easy meal ticket and paper shuffling bureaucrats, all of whom achieve little. Remember when Labour's Scottish MP's were called "The Feeble Fifty" in the face of Thatcher's mob? Are the SNP cohort any more effective now?

Its true about Cherry, just seen it in the paper.   There are other moves and its pitched as a "reshuffle".

With her wars with Salmond and Cherry, plus the obvious lack of a successor figure, Sturgeon shows herself to be a paranoid and vicious figure who attacks any possible source of rivalry (or avoids the chance of it entirely - hence no successor / protege, whom she fears may usurp her).

It is always  the same with left wing dictators, they are never done with purging their enemies, real or imagined.

If you look at the twitter accounts of the kinds of people involved in running the SNP, its chilling.  Its all kinds of weirdos and perverts, who all owe their prominence to being glib Sturgeon loyalists and all they are concerned about is ranting and raving about made up topics like "transphobia".

Many of them appear to be from an LGBT background and they wield great power.  Look how  recently - despite independence and coronia virus looming large - they managed to force Sturgeon to take time out to issue an "unscripted" statement on "transphobia".

Seemingly a few trannys have quit the party (they will go to their natural home, the greens) seemingly because other people's pretence that they are woman has been deemed not been up to scratch.

Sturgeon bleats about the "young women" leaving the party - disgusting nonsense.

 

 

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29 minutes ago, The beard of mcinnes said:

They're not even trying to hide it anymore, surely the people of Scotland will see through them soon. This needs to go above an inquiry, he needs arrested along with his sleekit wife, shameful. 

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56 minutes ago, The beard of mcinnes said:

The committee has the power to compel people to appear and should now exercise that power.

However, as the committee is chaired by an SNP MSP, it remains to be seen what action they take.

Certainly they seem to have been very timid when it comes to the ongoing SNP enquiry obstruction and evidence withholding.

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For all his flaws (and he was a Marmite character, no disputing that) Alex Salmond led a party famous for its top down discipline. It was a very broad church, one where left, right and centre could all intermingle. A party where statists / libertarians and monarchists / republicans alike could find common ground. While it's true that they were united by a common goal, it still required fine leadership and strategic planning to hold such disparate groups together. That this party has fallen into such disrepute is the responsibility of the Sturrell Mafia. The buck stops with them.

Salmond was right to step down when he did and in doing so, he bequeathed a party on the brink of independence, yet fell at the final hurdle. A competent successor would have seized this and moved forward on the momentum of a grassroots independence movement that remained stoic in defeat. Instead, it's been infected by creeps who want (and in at least one case tried) to bugger teenage boys, misogynist transvestites who abuse women for refusing to bow to their sick ideology (feminists and traditionalists alike) and potty mouthed wee NEDs who invite drag queens into young kids' schools. Now we're seeing the whispers some of us heard a few years ago about conspiring to jail Salmond for the rest of his life are true. A slap in the face to genuine sex crime victims.

What a pathetic fall. Like I said, the buck stops with the FM and her slimeball husband. 

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1 hour ago, daytripping said:

They're not even trying to hide it anymore, surely the people of Scotland will see through them soon. This needs to go above an inquiry, he needs arrested along with his sleekit wife, shameful. 

Wonder how Sturgeon will spin this.

They are doing everything in their power to obstruct the inquiry.

She says one thing and does the other.

Like you say they are not even trying to hide it,they think they are invincible and the cult will protect them.

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13 minutes ago, Jocky Balboa said:

For all his flaws (and he was a Marmite character, no disputing that) Alex Salmond led a party famous for its top down discipline. It was a very broad church, one where left, right and centre could all intermingle. A party where statists / libertarians and monarchists / republicans alike could find common ground. While it's true that they were united by a common goal, it still required fine leadership and strategic planning to hold such disparate groups together. That this party has fallen into such disrepute is the responsibility of the Sturrell Mafia. The buck stops with them.

Salmond was right to step down when he did and in doing so, he bequeathed a party on the brink of independence, yet fell at the final hurdle. A competent successor would have seized this and moved forward on the momentum of a grassroots independence movement that remained stoic in defeat. Instead, it's been infected by creeps who want (and in at least one case tried) to bugger teenage boys, misogynist transvestites who abuse women for refusing to bow to their sick ideology (feminists and traditionalists alike) and potty mouthed wee NEDs who invite drag queens into young kids' schools. Now we're seeing the whispers some of us heard a few years ago about conspiring to jail Salmond for the rest of his life are true. A slap in the face to genuine sex crime victims.

What a pathetic fall. Like I said, the buck stops with the FM and her slimeball husband. 

They are behaving like a tinpot 3rd world gov.

Now with threats to Joanna Cherry,very dangerous and desperate people.

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