eeps Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 You did not answer my original questionI did Link to comment
caledonia Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Anyone remember when Malta were part of project fear 2 1 Link to comment
Parklife Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 The EU is undemocratic to its core as legislation is introduced by unelected bureaucrats then amended by meps. Members are then bound by this legislation..What like Civil Servants at Westminster do? Scotland would have to commit to join the Euro. This is not a myth and has not been busted.Haha. Only it has. You're either really thick, or attempting to mislead people by claiming Scotland would have to join the Euro 1 Link to comment
craegDAMH Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 The EU is undemocratic to its core as legislation is introduced by unelected bureaucrats then amended by meps. Members are then bound by this legislation. The hol performs a similar function but does NOT introduce legislation merely amends it, so it does not rule over us as you suggest. Scotland would have to commit to join the Euro. This is not a myth and has not been busted. Sweden is has been "committed" to joining the Euro since 1994. It still uses the krona 1 Link to comment
caledonia Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 So you'd give up sovereignty straight away to an undemocratic institution and take on the euro, huge levels of fiscal austerity to meet conditions to join. My main issue though is the incoherence - freedom from the apparent yoke of Westminster which at least is a functioning democracy to be a smaller fish in a far less accountable rule maker.Turn that another way and you have this 1 Link to comment
eeps Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 What like Civil Servants at Westminster do? Haha. Only it has. You're either really thick, or attempting to mislead people by claiming Scotland would have to join the EuroCivil servants do not introduce legislation, if you can't see the difference then there's no point continuing. As for the Euro, indeed the commitment may be something that can be left hanging but what currency would we have? 1 Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Sweden is has been "committed" to joining the Euro since 1994. It still uses the krona exactly it’s crap, a Spanish Bud. Link to comment
Redforever86 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 exactly it’s crap, a Spanish Bud. *Mexican Link to comment
Redforever86 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-49336998 The oil will be finished in a few years.... Link to comment
Clydeside_Sheep Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 An independent Scotland which is part of the EU would be the ideal situation yes. What would be your main issue with that?That contradicts your previous statement saying you wanted Scotland to be "self-governing and wholly independent". A Scotland in the EU has significantly less autonomy than Scotland in the UK. And it will continue to get less and less, in the EU. Fans of the EU seem oblivious to the continuing ongoing push to dissolve national identities in favour of an EU superstate. The EU wants to create its own army, France is pushing for an EU finance minister controlling a single EU budget etc. Oh, and: 1 3 Link to comment
Clydeside_Sheep Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Anyone remember when Malta were part of project fear No it was before i was born. But good point, given the many obvious similarities between Scotland and Malta...... 1 2 Link to comment
Clydeside_Sheep Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Britain is a fucking shambles. How much has this protracted brexit shambles cost us and its still not sorted. The SNP never caused that. In fact they have played a significant part in causing the current situation, along with other anti-democracy remainers. 1 3 Link to comment
Red_Rocket_1983 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Mr Union Jack is back You read my mind Link to comment
Red_Rocket_1983 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 You grew up and everything was straightforward?A very childlike, simplistic thing to say.A good strong Tory government that didnt have a majority vote in Scotland for most of it - is that the simpler times youre talking about?Im no tartan army geezer i just recognise that Scotland should categorically be self-governing and a wholly independent country based on simple facts.Population of 5million, far easier to manage. Far easier to implement changes in a timely cost effective way. We are a smart enough people to make sure our country doesnt fall apart.The likes of Norway, Finland, Iceland, Sweden all manage fine, thriving in fact and are comparable in economy and population to us. Better schools, better health care.Britain is a fucking shambles. How much has this protracted brexit shambles cost us and its still not sorted. The SNP never caused that.A lot of NO retards dont even realise that in an independent Scotland it doesnt have to be the SNP in charge. Im sure the Scottish tories and Labour will become stronger within an independent Scotland. I bore myself with this stuff tbh so i’ll stop but in conclusion, NO cunts are selfish fucking wimps. No faith in our own to run our own affairs but Teresa and Boris, aye they’ll do. Fuck off Correct! Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 If only england had their own parliament up north, this shambles would never have happened. Westminster and london obviously wasn't enough for them. Hs2 will save the day, 30 billion over budget already, and the eu can stuff the 39 billion?! Link to comment
Simply Red Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 In fact they have played a significant part in causing the current situation, along with other anti-democracy remainers.Have they fuck. Brexit was created by a tory/ukip allegiance and voted in primarily on a racist, anti-immigration agenda, voted for by a majority of folk who have never voted before because they are the Jeremy Kyle crew. And then old folk and red necks who fear outsiders and difference. It has then dragged on and on and the tories are on their 3rd prime minister because of it and it still rumbles on in a mire of uncertainty and at a great cost. The tories cant agree on it which is why it has dragged on. What has the SNP got to do with that? Fuck all is the answer.The sooner Scotland becomes independent the better. 2 3 Link to comment
Red_Rocket_1983 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Middle class pensioners worrying about the value of their pensions/savings voted no, to hell with the young and less fortunate. Oh, and huns of course, they voted no as well. Hammer right on the nail! 1 1 Link to comment
Red_Rocket_1983 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 The EU is undemocratic to its core as legislation is introduced by unelected bureaucrats then amended by meps. Members are then bound by this legislation. The hol performs a similar function but does NOT introduce legislation merely amends it, so it does not rule over us as you suggest. Scotland would have to commit to join the Euro. This is not a myth and has not been busted. With the shit state of the value of the £ i'd rather join the euro. Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 If only england had their own parliament up north, this shambles would never have happened. Westminster and london obviously wasn't enough for them. Hs2 will save the day, 30 billion over budget already, and the eu can stuff the 39 billion?! Link to comment
BWG Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Imagine holding the same political views as huns. Should be grounds for an instant banning from the hat tbh. 1 Link to comment
Red_Rocket_1983 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Imagine holding the same political views as huns. Should be grounds for an instant banning from the hat tbh. I know ... disgusting hun like behaviour Link to comment
eeps Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 I know ... disgusting hun like behaviour Lol if it's nae huns it's tim's by that logic. Fucking weegie nonsense equating politics with fitba. 1 1 Link to comment
BWG Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Lol if it's nae huns it's tim's by that logic. Fucking weegie nonsense equating politics with fitba.Hun 2 Link to comment
maryhilldon Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 This SNP trope of constant comparison to england is not a bona fide argument and means nothing, except to dopes. It's a bona fide argument when they're being accused of mismanaging the NHS, education etc. Which is what we were talking about. Link to comment
eeps Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Imagine holding the same political views as huns. Should be grounds for an instant banning from the hat tbh.Take it AFC are now a Scottish nationalist club? 1 Link to comment
Redforever86 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Take it AFC are now a Scottish nationalist club?Yes. 1 1 Link to comment
fatjim Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Is there a point to any kind of march these days? Don't make a blind bit of difference. There is a point to the month of March if you care about the man made concept of naming periods of time. Link to comment
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