Out Of Contract

[Sheepo]

Read an article that was the same. Also factor in much more traveling over greater distances in a 46 match league season, as you say can be a burden on a young family.

 

If Shinnie is offered 6k a week by us (just guessing) but his next highest is say 7.5k by Wigan, once your knock off higher rate tax and factor in all the other negatives is it worth it? Or do you gamble and hope to get a move to a bigger team.

Tax rate is higher in Scotland than England now. Move his young family to Wigan and within 6 months end up on loan at Kilmarnock and leave them in Wigan while he is in Kilmarnock is not ideal. 

[TheRock]

I don't think he'd make a decision (or I hope not anyway) based on 'what if I fail and have to come back to Scotland in the New Year?'

[DD1903]

Read an article that was the same. Also factor in much more traveling over greater distances in a 46 match league season, as you say can be a burden on a young family.

 

If Shinnie is offered 6k a week by us (just guessing) but his next highest is say 7.5k by Wigan, once your knock off higher rate tax and factor in all the other negatives is it worth it? Or do you gamble and hope to get a move to a bigger team.

Yeah, going away on a Friday night and not back to late Saturday night/early Sunday morning, the maybe heading away again Monday or Tuesday for the same time period caused a lot of grief. Wives etc having little family support and friends nearby won't help.

 

I'm sure Craig Bryson's mrs is back living in her home town as she was alone a lot of the time (might have been when he was in loan)

[Tord31]

Richard Gordon has said a few times now that the offer to Shinnie is highest in the clubs history. Does seem surprising to be on more than hignett and jess? Highest in mcinnes era is certainly believable

[G31DON]

Tax rate is higher in Scotland than England now. Move his young family to Wigan and within 6 months end up on loan at Kilmarnock and leave them in Wigan while he is in Kilmarnock is not ideal.

Aye, I was meaning that a grand and a half more is only £850/900 or so once you take off higher rate tax.

[maryhilldon]

Read an article that was the same. Also factor in much more traveling over greater distances in a 46 match league season, as you say can be a burden on a young family.

 

If Shinnie is offered 6k a week by us (just guessing) but his next highest is say 7.5k by Wigan, once your knock off higher rate tax and factor in all the other negatives is it worth it? Or do you gamble and hope to get a move to a bigger team.

I would imagine Wigan would offer closer to 10k a week.

[CityCentre]

Aye, I was meaning that a grand and a half more is only £850/900 or so once you take off higher rate tax.

 

You also get taxed less in England than you do in Scotland. If he was wanting to go down there.

[ebbe]

I’m going to wait until ReliableSource tells us what’s going to be the outcome.

You’ll have a helluva wait.

[RUL]

It just seems to be going the same way as the Jack rumours, a few folk in the know repeating it's happening, everyone else adamant it won't.

 

I'm sure Shinnie does have a lot of general affection for our club and he has represented us well but is that going to stop him signing for them if they offer more money? If his only 3 options are Aberdeen, rangers and Wigan then I think it will be between Aberdeen and rangers for his signature. Kenny McLean seems to have run into good form with Norwich so maybe other clubs in championship will be looking at where he's come from and like the look of Shinnie?

[Tommy]

You’ll have a helluva wait.

I wasn’t being serious.

[ebbe]

I wasn’t being serious.

I ken. It was/is an attempt to draw him out for comedy purposes.

[boboisared]

It just seems to be going the same way as the Jack rumours, a few folk in the know repeating it's happening, everyone else adamant it won't.

 

I'm sure Shinnie does have a lot of general affection for our club and he has represented us well but is that going to stop him signing for them if they offer more money? If his only 3 options are Aberdeen, rangers and Wigan then I think it will be between Aberdeen and rangers for his signature. Kenny McLean seems to have run into good form with Norwich so maybe other clubs in championship will be looking at where he's come from and like the look of Shinnie?

Were they?

 

If you look back I think you'd find most if not everyone expected it?

[Tommy]

I ken. It was/is an attempt to draw him out for comedy purposes.

Dinna hud yer breath.

[Rabiusmaximus]

You also get taxed less in England than you do in Scotland. If he was wanting to go down there.

Not you don't?

[Tord31]

Probably need Reliable Source to confirm the Scottish rates of income tax for 2019/2020

[G31DON]

I would imagine Wigan would offer closer to 10k a week.

Not if they are in league one.

 

Edit. Could be Shinnie has signed a conditional pre contract. Only will sign if they stay up, possible reason for not announcing. Clutching at straws maybe!

[aberdeen1970]

He's maybe waiting to see if Wigan are going to stay up or not!

[BWG]

I don't grudge Shinnie a move South but he can fuck right of with this pissing us about.

[RUL]

Were they?

 

If you look back I think you'd find most if not everyone expected it?

 

I haven't looked back on any thread so you may be right, I can't remember expecting it at this stage though? I think towards the end in May it became common knowledge.

[boboisared]

I haven't looked back on any thread so you may be right, I can't remember expecting it at this stage though? I think towards the end in May it became common knowledge.

Sorry, didn't realise you meant at a similar stage.

 

As soon as the paper talk happened everyone knew it was a goer.

[Dandyesque]

You also get taxed less in England than you do in Scotland. If he was wanting to go down there.

Can't see an extra few hundred a year making many odds in the overall scheme of things

[Henry]

It does for @@Millertime. 

[Tord31]

his marginal tax rate would be 1% less in Engerland

 

his marginal tax rate would be a lot less at the huns

[Rabiusmaximus]

Yes, you do

So you are saying there is only one tax being income tax?

[ebbe]

Where did you learn maths?

Oldmachar.

[Chewie37]

If Shinnie signs for the hun I'd feel dirty keeping my current username. I'd have to delete my account and come back with a different username which definitely will not be one that refers to a current player! :-)

  

You could either hope for his brother to sign for us or just pretend to really like one of the RedTV commentators?

 

Richard Gordon has said a few times now that the offer to Shinnie is highest in the clubs history. Does seem surprising to be on more than hignett and jess? Highest in mcinnes era is certainly believable

Don’t we lay out more on wages but less on fees now? Would probably need someone to geek out and compare wage bills over the years I suppose.......arsed?

[Ten Caat]

I have absolutely no doubt we could stretch to £10k/week if we were absolutely desperate for a player's services. The problem for us would be that other players in the squad would demand a similar fee when their contracts came up for renewal. Right now the 2 most obvious would be McKenna....Scotland regular now.....but who has recently signed a new contract so we are protected from him doing it for a while, and Joe who has 16 months left on his and who will be entering contract negotiations in the summer. And who most definitely could get an offer from an English Championship club on around that figure. Stewart's agent might also try it on if we want to get him in permanently though in view of the fact anyone could have signed him permanently for free 18 months ago if they agreed to take over his £6k/week Birmingham wages and no one bit suggests he won't be in too much demand (if his form is good for us till season's end I could see sevco taking a punt on him and telling his agent they would beat any offer we made just to deprive us of him)

[StandFree1982]

I like Shinnie, but he's in no way worth £10k a week.

[BWG]

I like Shinnie, but he's in no way worth £10k a week.

 

Footballers are worth what clubs will pay them unfortunately.  Fitba is absolutely fucked.  Look at the wages some of the total dross down South get.

[CityCentre]

I like Shinnie, but he's in no way worth £10k a week.

 

He is, as has been proven by our wasting of money on Gleeson, Forrester and Tansey - he is worth all three of them.