To those that think immigration is not a problem

[The Boofon]

Some pollyanna was on the wireless earlier, wondering aloud why rich nations in the region, such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc, have not taken a single refugee.

 

Hint - its because they who are funding Islamic extremism in the region, perpetuating conflicts to drive people from their homes, with the express aim of causing the continued Islamisation of Europe.

 

Europe should be seeking ways to reduce its Islamic populations, not increase them.

 

 

Why?

[The Boofon]

Double.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

 

Why?

 

I fear if Islam is allowed to continue to grow in western europe, then the future of western europe may not be pretty.

 

I dont resent helping people in times of need, of course not, but no-one can deny there is a lot of unpleasant baggage which goes along with Islam.

 

People say its just a minority of extremists who get the majority a bad name; and yet I am not reassured by that when I survey (i) the conditions for non-muslims in most (all?) muslim states (ii) how poorly former waves of Islamic migration have integrated across western europe and (iii) how many 1000s of muslims have rejected a comfortable life in western europe to go and live amid the savagery of the islamic state.

 

One is tempted to ask: if most muslims do not share these dubious values, they why are most (all?) muslim nations repressive, violent shit-holes? Why do muslims leave the leafy suburbs of UK Cities, including Aberdeen and Glasgow, to go live in a warzone where women have the status of cattle, woofters are thrown off roofs and the main form of entertainment is smashing cultural artefacts and thinking up ever new forms of perverse cruelty to videotape?

 

I am of the opinion that so called moderate muslims would always side with extreme muslims, over we kuffars. If indeed, there really is such a thing as a moderate. This chap thinks not:

 

“Please, if there’s anyone who still thinks ISIS doesn’t represent Islam, know that they are wrong. ISIS represents Islam one hundred percent.” Father Douglas al Bazi, an Iraqi Catholic parish priest in Erbil.

 

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2015/08/theres-no-such-thing-as-moderate-islam.html

 

Its easy for us to ignore the reality and lapse into "right on" platitudes, but i do think we should be rather wary. I think the face Islam presents is dependent on who holds the power / who is the majority. I think we see a very different face of Islam in our corner shops and Indian takeaways, than people see if they live in majority muslim nations.

 

I think the UK Governments plan to take refugees who have already been processed in camps in lebanon is very wise. That way we can be more certain of getting genuine refugees, than we can from among the human wave currently sweeping up into Austria/Hungary, which doubtless contains many ISIS members.

 

Our country isnt perfect, but its a pretty decent place to live for people. I dont resent anyone coming to live here, as long as they realise we all have to get along.

[Redforever86]

I'm off to Munich at the weekend. Might see if I can buy a Syrian housekeeper on the cheap.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

The drowing of that 3 year old child was a terrible shame, but the response of western nations has been a very superficial, very self-indulgent form of pity.

 

I wonder how many abortions were carried out across the west, the same day the papers printed the sad picture of the little body washed up on the shore line? The people wringing their hands over that picture have no claim to care about vulnerable kids.

 

I found the staged grief quite nauseating actually. I was reminded of Stalin, when he said a million deaths is a statistic, but one death is a tragedy. Very astute man, Stalin, like many sociopaths.

 

The recent 'Planned Parenthood' scandal didnt even make it into the mainstream media - US abortionists selling the body parts of their victims for profit; murder of the unborn is a business where 'doctors' will actually haggle over the remains over their victims, while joking its because they want to buy a Lamborghini - yet people think they are both well-informed and compassionate, because the paper printed a picture of a drowned child. A joke.

 

I was also angered by that scrote Bob Geldoff appearing, on cue, like the vulture he is. A man who thinks hes too good to pay tax to fund the NHS, benefits, overseas aid etc, yet who turns up to lecture us on morality as regular as clockwork. Couldnt make it up. Fuck off Bob. Pay some tax - and have a wash.

 

Just some musings I have had over the past few days.

[360]

The Sun's latest campaign

 

[Henry]

[newcastlered]

UK letting 20,000 Syrian refugees in which is 6 per constituency so a pretty small amount of people in the grand scheme of things. But also planning to displace more by bombing Syria, wonder if we're going for Assad or ISIS this time or both. Bit messier now Assad has Russian planes on his side.

 

Bit confused though as an RAF drone killed a few guys - including an Aberdonian . Does there not need to be a vote on bombing foreign countries? So how come a drone can do it?

 

I also love the logic that abortion is a sin but genocide is just common sense. Maybe showing not only Islam but Christianity is capable of distorting minds into thinking horrendous and frankly ridiculous things.

[Henry]

 

That a British citizen was targeted and killed by these strikes – and another killed by mistake - is particularly alarming and sets a dangerous new precedent. This is extrajudicial killing: a British prime minister now claims the right to kill British citizens when they travel abroad.

We must also remember that parliament voted against strikes in Syria in August 2013. This latest round of strikes is a further violation of the will of parliament.

 

quote from CND.

[Ke1t]

The drowing of that 3 year old child was a terrible shame, but the response of western nations has been a very superficial, very self-indulgent form of pity.

 

I wonder how many abortions were carried out across the west, the same day the papers printed the sad picture of the little body washed up on the shore line? The people wringing their hands over that picture have no claim to care about vulnerable kids.

 

I found the staged grief quite nauseating actually. I was reminded of Stalin, when he said a million deaths is a statistic, but one death is a tragedy. Very astute man, Stalin, like many sociopaths.

 

The recent 'Planned Parenthood' scandal didnt even make it into the mainstream media - US abortionists selling the body parts of their victims for profit; murder of the unborn is a business where 'doctors' will actually haggle over the remains over their victims, while joking its because they want to buy a Lamborghini - yet people think they are both well-informed and compassionate, because the paper printed a picture of a drowned child. A joke.

 

I was also angered by that scrote Bob Geldoff appearing, on cue, like the vulture he is. A man who thinks hes too good to pay tax to fund the NHS, benefits, overseas aid etc, yet who turns up to lecture us on morality as regular as clockwork. Couldnt make it up. Fuck off Bob. Pay some tax - and have a wash.

 

Just some musings I have had over the past few days.

 

A zygote or a fetus is not a child.

[daytripping]

Saw some disturbing images from Greece earlier, local people in tears pleading for the immigrants to get out of their gardens and stop mass brawling in the streets, really feel for them that this has been forced upon them, apparently the Iraq and Syrian people don't get on so they've been fighting in these peoples streets since they got there, that's some way to repay your hosts.

 

We've also seen unchecked migration on a huge scale of mostly young males, these are not people who want to integrate themselves with the local populations, I can only see this ending badly. European governments have been emotionally bribed over the picture of a young boy dying, tragic as it was proper controls should have been kept in place.

 

For our part in Britain at least David Cameron is making sure we only take proper asylum seekers from the holding camps they fled too, great move that should mean we only take in those most in need, that doesn't include people living in rent free apartments in a nice coastal resort in Turkey.

 

Lets hope Enoch Powells warnings don't come to fruition, sadly I think in some mainland European Countries they will.

[Ke1t]

 

quote from CND.

 

Cameron has executed a British citizen without trial. Pretty sure British law allows for citizens accused of a crime (and I'm not sure fighting for ISIS is technically a crime) to be given a trial in which he can defend himself. Wasn't the Magna Carta created in part to disallow the arbitrary use of power?

 

Cameron should be arrested, or at the very least relieved of his duties while an enquiry takes place.

 

What WILL happen is this....

 

[Ke1t]

Saw some disturbing images from Greece earlier, local people in tears pleading for the immigrants to get out of their gardens and stop mass brawling in the streets, really feel for them that this has been forced upon them, apparently the Iraq and Syrian people don't get on so they've been fighting in these peoples streets since they got there, that's some way to repay your hosts.

 

We've also seen unchecked migration on a huge scale of mostly young males, these are not people who want to integrate themselves with the local populations, I can only see this ending badly. European governments have been emotionally bribed over the picture of a young boy dying, tragic as it was proper controls should have been kept in place.

 

For our part in Britain at least David Cameron is making sure we only take proper asylum seekers from the holding camps they fled too, great move that should mean we only take in those most in need, that doesn't include people living in rent free apartments in a nice coastal resort in Turkey.

 

Lets hope Enoch Powells warnings don't come to fruition, sadly I think in some mainland European Countries they will.

 

You realise that the history of Europe, including Britain, is one of mass waves of immigrants?

[daytripping]

 

You realise that the history of Europe, including Britain, is one of mass waves of immigrants?

 

This is not the same, this is an attempt at Islamification of the entire region, why now? only small regions of Syria are affected by the trouble and I'm sure the Iraq people have had it way worse than they currently do. I've seen disturbing reports on fb that this was planned on a mass scale to spread Islam across the region.

 

You're ok over there, what about the people in the likes of Greece who's life's have been shattered over this.

[daytripping]

The mossies have a word for what's going on....Hijrah.

 

I'm officially closing Bucksburn's borders till the situation is assessed further.

[Redstar]

This is not the same, this is an attempt at Islamification of the entire region, why now? only small regions of Syria are affected by the trouble and I'm sure the Iraq people have had it way worse than they currently do. I've seen disturbing reports on fb that this was planned on a mass scale to spread Islam across the region.

 

You're ok over there, what about the people in the likes of Greece who's life's have been shattered over this.

We'll be playing into the Yanks hands soon enough...a couple of IS "terror attacks" in Western Europe on the back of these "refugees" arriving...and we'll be begging Uncle Sam to pull the trigger on all out war in the Middle East by Xmas...

[daytripping]

Here's some desperate refugees arriving on the Greek island of Lesbos yesterday, you honestly couldn't make it up.

 

[daytripping]

Savages.

 

https://video-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xlt1/v/t42.1790-2/11974982_418669864993628_687095334_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjY2NCwicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=664&vabr=369&oh=01778230b2f2f0a7b4440f8d448f9aa7&oe=55EDE453

[daytripping]

Lesbos!!

 

Sister island of Pooftahs?

 

I was pondering earlier if it would be a haven for rug munchers, would have been worth a trip till this happened.

[Poodler]

Savages.

 

https://video-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xlt1/v/t42.1790-2/11974982_418669864993628_687095334_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjY2NCwicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=664&vabr=369&oh=01778230b2f2f0a7b4440f8d448f9aa7&oe=55EDE453

That's sad min. In the 'safe haven' of Europe a week and they are behaving like this. I can see your point. But this behaviour is all they know isn't it. It will take time for them to learn civilised behaviour (whatever that is)

[Ke1t]

 

This is not the same, this is an attempt at Islamification of the entire region, why now? only small regions of Syria are affected by the trouble and I'm sure the Iraq people have had it way worse than they currently do. I've seen disturbing reports on fb that this was planned on a mass scale to spread Islam across the region.

 

You're ok over there, what about the people in the likes of Greece who's life's have been shattered over this.

 

I see lots of 'disturbing reports' on FB, usually from Britain first and similar racist hate groups. Or cherry picked acts of violence no worse than at a fitba match, out of almost a million people.

 

I'm okay over here, living a few miles from the largest Islamic/Arabic community outside the Middle East, and one of the largest Black communities outside of Africa? Where every week thousands of Middle Eastern and African immigrants arrive, or are sworn in?

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You must not be familiar with the Metro Detroit area, min

[Ke1t]

 

This is not the same, this is an attempt at Islamification of the entire region, why now? only small regions of Syria are affected by the trouble and I'm sure the Iraq people have had it way worse than they currently do. I've seen disturbing reports on fb that this was planned on a mass scale to spread Islam across the region.

 

You're ok over there, what about the people in the likes of Greece who's life's have been shattered over this.

 

Well, if this is an attempt at changing British culture from one to another then it's actually EXACTLY the same.

[adl333]

Kelt,

As soon as anyone chooses to fight for IS, they no longer have the right to be called 'British', or expect the rights expected of British nationals.

 

As an expat I would expect you to understand this.

 

As painful as it may be for the families of these latest 2 'Jihadi's' to see their family members killed, they effectively died the day they joined up with a terrorist organisation. Their families deserve sympathy, but the individuals do not. How many innocents did they rape & murder before they were taken out??

 

As Bill Hicks would have said "The world just got a little lighter"

[Ke1t]

*Kelt,As soon as anyone chooses to fight for IS, they no longer have the right to be called 'British', or expect the rights expected of British nationals.[

 

** As an expat I would expect you to understand this.

 

*** As painful as it may be for the families of these latest 2 'Jihadi's' to see their family members killed, they effectively died the day they joined up with a terrorist organisation. Their families deserve sympathy, but the individuals do not. How many innocents did they rape & murder before they were taken out??

 

**** As Bill Hicks would have said "The world just got a little lighter"

 

* Explain why becoming a mercenary voids one's nationality. Mercenaries have fought in multiple conflicts throughout history and losing their nationality has never been an issue.

 

** I don't. In light of my previous comment, please explain it to me.

 

*** As far as I'm aware, ISIS doesn't operate as a 'Terrorist' organisation. In fact they're even a step up from an insurgency, since they fight pitched battles with regular military forces. Granted Obama has latterly declared them a terrorist organisation, but terror, in reality, isn't their methodology. Aside from that, are you saying that anyone who fought for the Taleban in the 80s is guilty of fighting for a terrorist organisation, even though they were our terrorists? Or is it only when you fight for terrorist organisations we explicitly support?

 

**** Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. Samuel Johnson

[Ke1t]

Here's some desperate refugees arriving on the Greek island of Lesbos yesterday, you honestly couldn't make it up.

 

 

Wow... look at them being happy after escaping the civil war in their country. It's fucking outrageous right enough.

[adl333]

Kelt,

* They are not mercenaries, they are religious bigots.

 

**Their family deserve understanding for their loss, the dead terrorists do not deserve any thought.

 

***They are a religious based organisation, they destroy history that doesn't agree with their doctrine. I see what you say about the Taliban, "our enemies enemy is our friend", however, I think that in the past the west was naive, especially the American's, especially in Afghanistan (& Iraq).

 

They throw suspected homosexuals from rooftops, definitely the actions of religious terrorists.

 

**** I agree, I am not a patriot (the American version) or a Scottish nationalist, which with hindsight appear to be very similar.

 

Johnson was correct, they truly are scoundrels.

[Ke1t]

Kelt,

* They are not mercenaries, they are religious bigots.

 

**Their family deserve understanding for their loss, the dead terrorists do not deserve any thought.

 

***They are a religious based organisation, they destroy history that doesn't agree with their doctrine. I see what you say about the Taliban, "our enemies enemy is our friend", however, I think that in the past the west was naive, especially the American's, especially in Afghanistan (& Iraq).

 

They throw suspected homosexuals from rooftops, definitely the actions of religious terrorists.

 

**** I agree, I am not a patriot (the American version) or a Scottish nationalist, which with hindsight appear to be very similar.

 

Johnson was correct, they truly are scoundrels.

 

* Kim Davis is a religious bigot, but she's not shooting anyone, ergo she's not a mercenary. Lads fighting for ISIS are certainly religious fanatics, but they're also shooting people for, presumably, at least minimal living expenses in the form of food and shelter, provided by glorious Islamic State. That makes them mercenaries. By definition.

 

** 'Deserve' is entirely subjective. There's not much else to say about that.

 

*** Whether religious, ideological, or politically motivated is another irrelevance. A British citizen is a British citizen, subject to and protected by British law. If he does something illegal then he is entitled to a trial. Was the guy who died actually fighting for ISIS? Was he doing a bit of a Schindler and helping people escape the clutches of ISIS whenever he could? Was he lost and asking directions when the drone murdered him? The thing is we'll never know because he's been denied the right to defend himself, and that goes against everything our Democracies allegedly stand for. You know who kills folk without a trial? ISIS. The supposed terrorists. How can we accuse others of terrorism when we extend exactly the same lack of due process to people WE don't like? You can't just say, "Ach, that lad's a cock, he DESERVES to die." Does he really? The laddie that accidentally kicked a fitba into your garden? Technically it's trespassing, so you reckon it's okay to drone strike him without any kind of rational or legal framework?

 

It doesn't matter if the dead guy was the biggest cunt on the planet, we have, and are entitled to, certain rights. If we start killing our own people because, well, fuck it, eh. then we have a serious, serious problem.

[spamspamspam]

 

This is not the same, this is an attempt at Islamification of the entire region, why now? only small regions of Syria are affected by the trouble and I'm sure the Iraq people have had it way worse than they currently do. I've seen disturbing reports on fb that this was planned on a mass scale to spread Islam across the region.

 

You're ok over there, what about the people in the likes of Greece who's life's have been shattered over this.

Didn't the Romans do the same with Christianity?

We were all pagans before those toga wearing, mother fucking bastards turned up. Giz us our gods back

[adl333]

Kelt,

As a pseudo yank, you should be familiar with the term 'outlaw'. I agree with this old fashioned idea.

 

If by your actions you place yourself 'outside the law', Fuck you! You decided to go there, you no longer deserve the rights and protections that law abiding citizens can expect in a civilised society.

 

I bet those 2 guys understood this, & would not complain. Hey, they are with Allah & have their quota of virgins. all is good.

[Ke1t]

Kelt,

* As a pseudo yank, you should be familiar with the term 'outlaw'. I agree with this old fashioned idea.

 

** If by your actions you place yourself 'outside the law', Fuck you! You decided to go there, you no longer deserve the rights and protections that law abiding citizens can expect in a civilised society.

 

*** I bet those 2 guys understood this, & would not complain. Hey, they are with Allah & have their quota of virgins. all is good.

 

* There's nothing pseudo about it. I've been a dual citizen for a number of years now...

 

** That makes very little sense. Any criminal action, from smashing someone's window to illegally invading another country, places one 'outside the law'. The very reason we have laws is to maintain order. As soon as we begin arbitrarily dispensing death sentences to whomever we like based upon some subjective emotional "Fuck it" philosophy you open the door to chaos. There are plenty religious nuts who think being gay is an outrageous crime... and if the law of the land is "Subjective Fuck It" then you can't complain if Catholics start battering gays to death in the streets. Nor could you complain if vigilantes burned your house down because they thought you were a sex beast, even if... whoops... wrong spy. Too many people seem to think their own opinions and prejudices should be what constitutes law. That's how you get things like ISIS.

 

*** What people think and what the law demands are often two very different things.