Rostov-on-Don Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Problem lies with how Hampden was done up back in the 90s. Short term planning, which will be a noose around our necks for generations to come. Familiar! It's a dreadful stadium in every single way. Beyond me why they don't build a perfect new stadium in the best possible location for the whole country. It's the best option for attendances, experience, satisfaction, stadium design. Link to comment
Dr_Manhattan Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Yup. Once again the SFA show how out of touch they are. 'No way we could let Scotland leave Glasgow' Yep, I got slightly triggered when I read that too. As others have said, the fuckwit in question is not actually at the SFA but has contributed funding which enabled the purchase. Yes, he's an ex-nonexec at the Piggery. I'm sure you're all as shocked as I am by that. I bet the SRU were pleased when they saw that. Link to comment
BWG Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 There's more fans from Glasgow and surrounding areas and also, Glasgow is the home of Scottish football Why wouldn't it be here, nimrod? I love that your insecurity means that you take anything said against Glasgow personally. I'd genuinely be amazed if you've ever even actually been to Hampden before. 3 Link to comment
Reliablesource Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Wiilie Haughey, funder in chief. Not on SFA to my knowledge. Ex tim director too I think?Correct. The poster didn't bother replying to the question though. Not surprised. Link to comment
Reliablesource Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Yep, I got slightly triggered when I read that too. As others have said, the fuckwit in question is not actually at the SFA but has contributed funding which enabled the purchase. Yes, he's an ex-nonexec at the Piggery. I'm sure you're all as shocked as I am by that. I bet the SRU were pleased when they saw that.To be fair, the guy can say what ever he likes. If he and Farmer stumped up the cash, it's obviously because they want a national stadium in Glasgow. Why wouldn't they say so afterwards? 2 Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 We understand there are sensitivities surrounding the location.....populist and football oriented population....central belt dominated unavoidable....great that we can move on with security. Not difficult. Fucking loved us gubbing greeting cunts like that in the 80’s. Oh for it to return. It won’t. Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 He had a hand in both goals, so he wasn't shite Simple as that sonny jimNaismith wasn't shite. I said the goals were shite. Which apart from the delivery they were. What I am saying about Naismith is he wasn't some miracle worker we should make our first choice striker moving forward because of a this one game. But I see McLeish has already said he'll be first choice next game, which is exactly the really low expectation level our national team is now at. We lost several games, then beat 1 very poor international team. It's not because we fixed all our issues and ignoring them glibly revelling in this win won't get us anywhere. That's not how you build a competitive team. But ..... I should just forget it really because quite frankly Scottish football just doesn't have any ambition at all. Fuck them. Link to comment
shut up meg Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 There's more fans from Glasgow and surrounding areas and also, Glasgow is the home of Scottish football Why wouldn't it be here, nimrod? 17000 at Monday's game is a good enough reason for a start. 3 Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 OR A non old firm striker takes his chance and gets to keep the shirt next game Is that not what we want?Nope. Link to comment
RUL Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Familiar! It's a dreadful stadium in every single way. Beyond me why they don't build a perfect new stadium in the best possible location for the whole country. It's the best option for attendances, experience, satisfaction, stadium design.Would also save us funding a new stadium ourselves. Link to comment
Panda Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Familiar! It's a dreadful stadium in every single way. Beyond me why they don't build a perfect new stadium in the best possible location for the whole country. It's the best option for attendances, experience, satisfaction, stadium design.The best possible location is either Glasgow or Edinburgh. Perth and Stirling can not host a 50,000+ stadium. They don't have the infrastructure, the transport, the land would need to be outside the towns - think Kingsford but with 50,000 trying to get out there. Aberdeen doesn't even have land for a new Dons stadium, so where would Scotland go? So can rule that out too. Dundee would be the best one in that it's a city big enough to host 50,000+ fans and location wise it's good. But it doesn't have a major airport which was the reason given for Cardiff initially being passed over for Euro 2020 in favour of Hampden, and then why it wasn't chosen again when Brussels pulled out. You'd be asking visiting fans to fly to other airport then travel to Dundee. Would again likely need to be an out of town stadium, and transport links to it would be reliant on buses. So aye, it's Glasgow or Edinburgh. Murrayfield is a rugby stadium, Hampden can be redeveloped. Correct decision made imo. 1 Link to comment
Ke1t Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 The best possible location is either Glasgow or Edinburgh. Perth and Stirling can not host a 50,000+ stadium. They don't have the infrastructure, the transport, the land would need to be outside the towns - think Kingsford but with 50,000 trying to get out there. Aberdeen doesn't even have land for a new Dons stadium, so where would Scotland go? So can rule that out too. Dundee would be the best one in that it's a city big enough to host 50,000+ fans and location wise it's good. But it doesn't have a major airport which was the reason given for Cardiff initially being passed over for Euro 2020 in favour of Hampden, and then why it wasn't chosen again when Brussels pulled out. You'd be asking visiting fans to fly to other airport then travel to Dundee. Would again likely need to be an out of town stadium, and transport links to it would be reliant on buses. So aye, it's Glasgow or Edinburgh. Murrayfield is a rugby stadium, Hampden can be redeveloped. Correct decision made imo. Rip out Seaton Park and you've room for a world class stadium, plus a variety of other facilities. Aberdeen should really have tried to get in there. 2 Link to comment
Rostov-on-Don Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 The best possible location is either Glasgow or Edinburgh. Perth and Stirling can not host a 50,000+ stadium. They don't have the infrastructure, the transport, the land would need to be outside the towns - think Kingsford but with 50,000 trying to get out there. Aberdeen doesn't even have land for a new Dons stadium, so where would Scotland go? So can rule that out too. Dundee would be the best one in that it's a city big enough to host 50,000+ fans and location wise it's good. But it doesn't have a major airport which was the reason given for Cardiff initially being passed over for Euro 2020 in favour of Hampden, and then why it wasn't chosen again when Brussels pulled out. You'd be asking visiting fans to fly to other airport then travel to Dundee. Would again likely need to be an out of town stadium, and transport links to it would be reliant on buses. So aye, it's Glasgow or Edinburgh. Murrayfield is a rugby stadium, Hampden can be redeveloped. Correct decision made imo. Near Edinburgh (airport). How do you think it can be redeveloped? Bearing in mind the height of the roof, the complexity of it and the fact it's built into the ground. For about £100-200m you could probably bring in only the 2 ends near to the goal with the same shallowness they are now. And be left with 2 stands still too far away and still a shite shallow ground. It's a nightmare of a stadium and nonsensical proposition to redevelop. 1 Link to comment
Panda Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Near Edinburgh (airport). How do you think it can be redeveloped? Bearing in mind the height of the roof, the complexity of it and the fact it's built into the ground. For about £100-200m you could probably bring in only the 2 ends near to the goal with the same shallowness they are now. And be left with 2 stands still too far away and still a shite shallow ground. It's a nightmare of a stadium and nonsensical proposition to redevelop.The architect behind Stuttgart's stadium reckons it'll cost £90m to do a similar job at Hampden. Link to comment
mcdougall(4) Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Rip out Seaton Park and you've room for a world class stadium, plus a variety of other facilities. Aberdeen should really have tried to get in there. Are you mental? 1 1 Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Near Edinburgh (airport). How do you think it can be redeveloped? Bearing in mind the height of the roof, the complexity of it and the fact it's built into the ground. For about £100-200m you could probably bring in only the 2 ends near to the goal with the same shallowness they are now. And be left with 2 stands still too far away and still a shite shallow ground. It's a nightmare of a stadium and nonsensical proposition to redevelop.Are you Davie Murray? Link to comment
dave_min Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Does anybody know where Cardiff airport is? Asking for a friend. Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Lol Where pray tell did you work out between "100 and 200 million" What science was used pleaseScience Fiction Link to comment
RUL Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 The architect behind Stuttgart's stadium reckons it'll cost £90m to do a similar job at Hampden.When facilities are woeful throughout Scotland, especially indoor, do we have £90m to spend on stadium redevelopment? For me correct decision would have been agreement to alternate between club grounds based on expected attendance for cup semis finals and international matches. Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 When facilities are woeful throughout Scotland, especially indoor, do we have £90m to spend on stadium redevelopment? For me correct decision would have been agreement to alternate between club grounds based on expected attendance for cup semis finals and international matches.Agree. Feels like the SFA are paying to be saddled with a terrible stadium which they will now waste lots of money redeveloping really badly again. But it's ok cos someone somewhere now has a cool £5m to spend. Link to comment
Reed or deed Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Does anybody know where Cardiff airport is?Asking for a friend.Swansea. Link to comment
Panda Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 When facilities are woeful throughout Scotland, especially indoor, do we have £90m to spend on stadium redevelopment? For me correct decision would have been agreement to alternate between club grounds based on expected attendance for cup semis finals and international matches.My guess is they reckon they can get some government money for it, since it'll be part of the bid for the World Cup 2030. Afterall, how much taxpayers money went on Wembley? Think they got £160m in UK government and lottery funding. Link to comment
RUL Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 My guess is they reckon they can get some government money for it, since it'll be part of the bid for the World Cup 2030. Afterall, how much taxpayers money went on Wembley? Think they got £160m in UK government and lottery funding.You'd hope that talks have taken place prior to them working on that assumption. Hope they are right. Link to comment
BWG Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 My guess is they reckon they can get some government money for it, since it'll be part of the bid for the World Cup 2030.Afterall, how much taxpayers money went on Wembley? Think they got £160m in UK government and lottery funding.Yeah but that's landan innit mate? Fuck the Jocks. Link to comment
Rostov-on-Don Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 The architect behind Stuttgart's stadium reckons it'll cost £90m to do a similar job at Hampden. 90 million pounds to move 2 stands to only 15 metres behind the goal and still be as shallow. No thank you. Looks like the bottom tier of Wembley and still miles away from the pitch at all sides. Link to comment
Donnet Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Real Sociedad are doing the same. 47 million euros for both end stands. Link to comment
mcdougall(4) Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 My guess is they reckon they can get some government money for it, since it'll be part of the bid for the World Cup 2030. Afterall, how much taxpayers money went on Wembley? Think they got £160m in UK government and lottery funding. We got money from the millennium fund I think it was called to re-develop Hampden when they made a shit of it.The FA took on enormous levels of debt to finance Wembley Link to comment
Yorston Vasey Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Rip out Seaton Park and you've room for a world class stadium, plus a variety of other facilities. Aberdeen should really have tried to get in there.Thought we were for filling in Union Gardens and having the trains run through a tunnel under the stand? Would have been fucking ace. 1 Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Having watched Ryan Fraser miraculously recover from the injury that kept him out of the Albania and run riot on the LEFT wing for Bournemouth it makes me wonder what's in the mixy bottle that McLeish scoofs out of.He harps on about playing your best players, but he does that but doesn't play them in their best positions thus lessening their influence. If he played them in their best positions we'd be a better team. And if that means dropping glass jaw then so be it.No doubting Tierney is a good player but he's not going to get in ahead of Robertson. And playing him in the left of a back 3 is not getting the best out of him so he's not one of your best players in that position.Flat back 4 with a 4 or a 5 in front. Robertson left back with Fraser left wing. If you must play him, Tierney can go to right back as he's probably our best option there even if it isn't his natural position. Link to comment
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