Ten Caat Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 English Fans - "The SPFL is shite. It's league 1 equivelant"Aberdeen Fans - "Fuck off, we'd be Championship level at worst" Shinnie leaves to the Championship Aberdeen Fans - "Doubt he's good enough for that level" As a midfielder don't think he is good enough for the seriously promotion chasing Championship sides (as a left back certainly good enough). But if he insists on being a midfielder then he is probably good enough for a lower to mid table side 1 Link to comment
Proud Dandy Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Shinnie will do a good job in that league. He’s a better player than a number of Championship midfielders that have made their way into the Scotland team over the recent years. Link to comment
G31DON Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 "Stripping out parachute payments, player sales and lucrative FA Cup ties, Wigan's annual turnover hovers around £7million" 2016/17 financial report, and spent last year in league one. No more parachute payments anymore either. Link to comment
boboisared Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Disageee with that otherwise Shinnie would be a standout first pick. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 English Fans - "The SPFL is shite. It's league 1 equivelant"Aberdeen Fans - "Fuck off, we'd be Championship level at worst" Shinnie leaves to the Championship Aberdeen Fans - "Doubt he's good enough for that level" Is it the exact same people saying all these contradictions, or is it maybe some different people with differing opinions? Love it when folk come out with shite like you just said like the whole support are actually of ONE opinion & ONE voice lol Link to comment
True_Don Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 physically and technically he will struggle to impose himself on games. do i want him to succeed ? Not especially.That's pish. He will rip through that league. Link to comment
Panda Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 If a Blackburn team that includes Charlie Mulgrew, Craig Conway and Joe Nuttall can hold their own in the Chanpionship, then pretty sure Graeme Shinnie would be fine down there. John McGinn also seems to be doing well at Villa. The same McGinn who Shinnie generally had in his pocket up here. 2 Link to comment
YorkDon Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Canna blame the lad for wanting to earn more money in what is a short career... Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 If a Blackburn team that includes Charlie Mulgrew, Craig Conway and Joe Nuttall can hold their own in the Chanpionship, then pretty sure Graeme Shinnie would be fine down there.John McGinn also seems to be doing well at Villa. The same McGinn who Shinnie generally had in his pocket up here.Exactly. How anyone can say that level is above Shinnie when you see some of the very average (& even shite) players that have gone down there before & easily held their own & all others that have previously 'held their own' (or better) down there & then come up here & tanked. Anyone saying Shinnie couldn't handle it down there is just quite simply being childishly bitter about him fkn off. His brother is a very good example. Arguably a worse player than him who was decent down there & bang average at best for Hibs. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Is there any mileage in this or is it just speculation? It's a sad reality when someone wants to risk leaving being captain of Aberdeen and a Scotland squad regular to join a non entity like Wigan who have a smaller turnover and where he could be relegated before he even signs. Link to comment
mcdougall(4) Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Is there any mileage in this or is it just speculation? It's a sad reality when someone wants to risk leaving being captain of Aberdeen and a Scotland squad regular to join a non entity like Wigan who have a smaller turnover and where he could be relegated before he even signs. They won an FA cup about 5 years ago. Spurs, West Ham, Everton. Newcastle to name a few haven't won a trophy in eons. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 They won an FA cup about 5 years ago. Spurs, West Ham, Everton. Newcastle to name a few haven't won a trophy in eons.We won the skol cup, or something around the same time Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 They won an FA cup about 5 years ago. Spurs, West Ham, Everton. Newcastle to name a few haven't won a trophy in eons.It's been a long 5 years for them though. They're a shadow of that side. Incomparable Link to comment
mcdougall(4) Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 It's been a long 5 years for them though. They're a shadow of that side. Incomparable I don't disagree, that they are not what they were at that time But why some have the continual need to put down clubs like that is beyond me Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I don't disagree, that they are not what they were at that time But why some have the continual need to put down clubs like that is beyond meI'm not putting them down. I'm saying Aberdeen are a bigger club. Wages apart everything else is a step down in my eyes. And there's risk involved. They could be relegated meaning the manager could be sacked, they would likely want different players on lower wages etc. Its far from being a sure thing that he'll be a Championship player next year playing for an upwardly mobile club. 2 Link to comment
Shinniesta Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 They won an FA cup about 5 years ago. Spurs, West Ham, Everton. Newcastle to name a few haven't won a trophy in eons.They also knocked Man City out of the FA Cup last season after beating them in the final 5 and a half years ago. They are a small club though that were propped up for years by a combination of the deep pockets of their rich owner and EPL money. Link to comment
Chewie37 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I'm not putting them down. I'm saying Aberdeen are a bigger club. Wages apart everything else is a step down in my eyes. And there's risk involved. They could be relegated meaning the manager could be sacked, they would likely want different players on lower wages etc. Its far from being a sure thing that he'll be a Championship player next year playing for an upwardly mobile club.Surely an ideal situation could come from that? Gets his contract paid off and we get him back? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I'm not putting them down. I'm saying Aberdeen are a bigger club. Wages apart everything else is a step down in my eyes. And there's risk involved. They could be relegated meaning the manager could be sacked, they would likely want different players on lower wages etc. Its far from being a sure thing that he'll be a Championship player next year playing for an upwardly mobile club. Surely an ideal situation could come from that? Gets his contract paid off and we get him back? Even if they get relegated/lose manager & new manager has to change players.Shinnie still gets the value of his contract & likely a deal at another club down there paying still as much as we can offer at least.Not like he doesn't get paid & has to retire if they get relegated. He's accepting a deal that is better for him financially than we can offer. Knowing that even after that deal he can likely still get a deal equally as good as we can offer from another club down there once he's played down there. Link to comment
Parklife Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Seems to be one of those phrases that if you say it often enough people believe it.It's pretty accurate though. I think John McGinn is a better midfielder than Shinnie but for whatever reason, Shinnie used to get the better of him more often than not. Link to comment
BWG Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I don't disagree, that they are not what they were at that time But why some have the continual need to put down clubs like that is beyond me Because they aren't the famous? What are you? Gay? 3 1 Link to comment
Zeus Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I'll continue to put them down and all of English football It's fucking shite 1 Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 They also knocked Man City out of the FA Cup last season after beating them in the final 5 and a half years ago. They are a small club though that were propped up for years by a combination of the deep pockets of their rich owner and EPL money. You've just described every team in England outside of the top 4. 2 Link to comment
NEM Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 They won an FA cup about 5 years ago. Spurs, West Ham, Everton. Newcastle to name a few haven't won a trophy in eons. The FA cup? Big deal - majority of EPL and even some championship sides now play their reserves 1 Link to comment
paddy Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 The Aberdeen fans all stopped jiggin’Our captain has fucked off to Wigan ,And it’s not without reason,During pantomime season,We’ll replace him with Christopher Biggins. Can he play at LB? Link to comment
boboisared Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Derek saying nothing in the Wigan rumours. Link to comment
Yorston Vasey Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Derek saying nothing in the Wigan rumours.He probably signed for them this morning but McInnes has already forgotten @@Millertime 1 Link to comment
Tyzo_1903 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 It's now the sad cycle of any decent Scottish Player as they go to try and earn the big bucks. A lot of Hibs/Hearts players come to mind especially: 1. Become good at current SPFL team2. Let contract dwindle down3. Leave for buttons or free once contract is up4. End up back in Scotland after a couple years in England on loan or transferred. McInnes has done well to not have this happen to too many of our players over the years by tying them up on long contracts (only really McLean and now Shinnie and GMS that I can think of). 1 Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Derek saying nothing in the Wigan rumours.Check out @AberdeenFC’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/AberdeenFC/status/1085879963885158400?s=09 Link to comment
mcdougall(4) Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 It's now the sad cycle of any decent Scottish Player as they go to try and earn the big bucks. A lot of Hibs/Hearts players come to mind especially: 1. Become good at current SPFL team2. Let contract dwindle down3. Leave for buttons or free once contract is up4. End up back in Scotland after a couple years in England on loan or transferred. McInnes has done well to not have this happen to too many of our players over the years by tying them up on long contracts (only really McLean and now Shinnie and GMS that I can think of). That's cos we've been the club picking up the McGinn/Rooney/Reynolds types coming back after their spells in England. Link to comment
Ewebasher Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Ochilview on Saturday (at least according to the BBC story about the Wigan rumours). Good old BBC sports coverage Link to comment
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