Match Thread St Mirren 1 - 0 Aberdeen

[For Fecks Sake]

Think yesterday summed up the coming season. Ugly sisters swatting teams aside and the rest of the league taking points off of each other.

 

When faced with a well organised defence, all teams will struggle to score primarily down to the lack of creative players (which the ugly sisters unfortunately have) who can open up a team.

 

Normal service in Scotland has been resumed unfortunately football wise.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

Didn’t see yesterday so not fair to judge, but I suspect if it’s like the first game he’s not sure if he’s part of a two in front of Ojo (ie attacking) or in a two with Ojo defending the back 4. I have a suspicion Dereks natural tendency is the latter (basically trying to replace Shinnie like for like) but then blaming him for not getting up to support the completely isolated Main.

[RUL]

Think yesterday summed up the coming season. Ugly sisters swatting teams aside and the rest of the league taking points off of each other.

 

When faced with a well organised defence, all teams will struggle to score primarily down to the lack of creative players (which the ugly sisters unfortunately have) who can open up a team.

 

Normal service in Scotland has been resumed unfortunately football wise.

 

Thing is I could live with that if we had a strong side ourselves, capable of reaching Europa group stages and latter stages of cup. If we finish 10-15 points off the pace then so be it. But we are likely to be 10-15 points behind after the first quarter the way it's going.

 

We look miles off the pace going forward and our defence leaking goals every week.

[muttonhumper]

What did Lewis Ferguson actually do though? If Deano played like that folk would be calling for him to go on loan and not being ready. Thought he had an actual shocker of a game, mis controlled the ball a lot and had no impact at all.

 

Ferguson was pish yesterday.

Added to your points, giving away stupid fouls with shoves in the back when we are in attacking / dangerous positions.

 

Poor.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

Who would have thought lining up in a respectful 4-5-1 for a long ball shitfest against a Jim Goodwin side wouldn’t work eh!

[ebbe]

Roll on the good times

[DelMonte]

Ferguson was pish yesterday.

Added to your points, giving away stupid fouls with shoves in the back when we are in attacking / dangerous positions.

 

Poor.

Yup, thought he was shocking. I like him but I seriously think he's better as an attacking midfielder.

[NEM]

This is the worst ever game in the history of Aberdeen football club, the players are the worst I have ever seen, worst manager ever, we deserve to be relegated etc etc

 

We will still win this.

 

 

Aye?  How did that go you fud?

[NEM]

This season is going to be all about the ugly sisters and the rest including us trying to scramble a top six finish. We are utter guff

 

Milne will be happy - that's what he wanted

[BWG]

Aye?  How did that go you fud?

 

It's almost as if he does nothing but speak shite.

[DD1903]

Is this the official line?

 

If this were true I’d still expect him to be on the bench and also to have at least travelled to Croatia.

He isn't fit enough to play, so why would he travel?

[Jimmy Grimble]

What did Lewis Ferguson actually do though? If Deano played like that folk would be calling for him to go on loan and not being ready. Thought he had an actual shocker of a game, mis controlled the ball a lot and had no impact at all.

 

Aye I agree, he didn't do much, seemed to try and do it all himself and end up losing posession or fouling their player.  His seemed to at least be giving a monkeys though which apart from Considine you wouldn't have said the same about anyone else in red as their was zero fight from the rest of them.  No leaders whatsoever on that pitch.

[Red_Rocket_1983]

What did Lewis Ferguson actually do though? If Deano played like that folk would be calling for him to go on loan and not being ready. Thought he had an actual shocker of a game, mis controlled the ball a lot and had no impact at all.

 

Correct! He had a poor game.

[RUL]

Aye I agree, he didn't do much, seemed to try and do it all himself and end up losing posession or fouling their player.  His seemed to at least be giving a monkeys though which apart from Considine you wouldn't have said the same about anyone else in red as their was zero fight from the rest of them.  No leaders whatsoever on that pitch.

 

Yeah, can never doubt his determination to win but the quality was non existent yesterday. As MH said, giving away free kicks constantly as well. Frustrating day.

[North East Loon]

Aye I agree, he didn't do much, seemed to try and do it all himself and end up losing posession or fouling their player.  His seemed to at least be giving a monkeys though which apart from Considine you wouldn't have said the same about anyone else in red as their was zero fight from the rest of them.  No leaders whatsoever on that pitch.

This, not his best game by a long stretch but the boy cares and others around him should take a good look at themselves after that shocker, he cant do it himself

Last season we relied on Ferguson so much to pull us out of the shit, the boy is still young.

Yesterday was when you find out whos got your back, tough conditions against a team who were up for it, we offered not a lot. 

Move on from here and FFS toughen up, show a bit of steel.

SF

[swifty]

He isn't fit enough to play, so why would he travel?

If he is injured then I agree there was no point in him travelling.

 

However if he’s not match fit then he could have been on the bench.

 

The issue here is the lack of word from the club on his condition. Unless I’ve missed it, I haven’t seen any quotes saying that he actually is injured and how long he will be out for?

[Jimmy Grimble]

This, not his best game by a long stretch but the boy cares and others around him should take a good look at themselves after that shocker, he cant do it himself

Yep, that's why I gave him pass marks, what he tried came to nothing but he showed some passion and determination which seemed to be completely lacking in everyone else bar Considine.

 

What baffles me is we seem to bring in players that are fairly limited which is understandable on our budget, but rather than play to their strenghts we try and fit them into a system and play in a fashion that doesn't suit their abilities at all.  Leigh is the best example so far, looked good going forward but suspect defensively but in last two games seems to have been asked to concentrate more on the defensive side of the game as offered little going forward.

 

The 3 behind Main yesterday should have been turning and running at the defence every opportunity but its something we barely saw all game.  No balls into the channels no directness with running.  Ojo and Ferguson should have been feeding those 3 and let them do their stuff but it was all so pedestrian that it became so predictable.  No movement and the ball would get played side to side and eventually lumped into the box when we had nobody in there.

[RUL]

Yep, that's why I gave him pass marks, what he tried came to nothing but he showed some passion and determination which seemed to be completely lacking in everyone else bar Considine.

 

What baffles me is we seem to bring in players that are fairly limited which is understandable on our budget, but rather than play to their strenghts we try and fit them into a system and play in a fashion that doesn't suit their abilities at all.  Leigh is the best example so far, looked good going forward but suspect defensively but in last two games seems to have been asked to concentrate more on the defensive side of the game as offered little going forward.

 

The 3 behind Main yesterday should have been turning and running at the defence every opportunity but its something we barely saw all game.  No balls into the channels no directness with running.  Ojo and Ferguson should have been feeding those 3 and let them do their stuff but it was all so pedestrian that it became so predictable.  No movement and the ball would get played side to side and eventually lumped into the box when we had nobody in there.

 

The whole style seems to have been lost somewhere after the departure of Hayes. He was a proper winger so tended to stay wide so we always had a regular outlet. When he left it became much more changeable with the front 3 all rotating regularly which led to the bizarre sight of Rooney playing left wing most weeks and looking brutal.

 

The front 3 to be interchangeable surely have to have similar styles? This is highlighted a lot as you see Cosgrove out wide when a cross is played in the box he's nowhere to be seen. He also tracks back a lot I have noticed which means we have no outlet when we do break.

 

This strange style of football appears to be continuing with the front 3 all interchanging but all playing 30 yards apart from each other. There appears to be no link up play at all and yesterday this was exasperated further by Ferguson and Ojo not deciding which was sitting and unsure what to do against a team sitting deep. As others have commented most of our possession involved sideways passes between McKenna and Considine.

 

It was quite frankly horrible to watch and is most weeks. There were promising signs against poor opposition at Pittodrie but all of our away performances have been poor and been similar in nature.

[RAZOR]

That first half was up there as one of the worst in McHunnis' tenure. Absolutely hopeless.

 

How he never made changes straight away was a big concern. Things did go on to get slightly better when McGinn and co came on but nowhere near good enough on the day.

 

Too many sick notes in the squad just now.