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[manboobs109]

11 minutes ago, NEM said:

He beat a world champion who was unbeaten for ten years in his own backyard and has just smoked the hardest punching heavyweight in history for the third time you maniac ?

He ducked the rematch with Klitschko twice, who the got beat by Joshua.

Wilder can punch but he's not a boxer.

[manboobs109]

3 minutes ago, NEM said:

Ali vastly over rated cause of his big gob. Great fighter but nowhere near “the greatest”

 

Looks like moobs bought the hype though 

Look who he beat. Tells you all you need to know.

[minijc]

30 minutes ago, NEM said:

You never heard the phrase a good big un beats a good little un? It’s basic common sense min ?

Size and weight is such a leveller, add in that Fury doesn't move like his size and weight, he's an absolute nightmare for anyone from any era.

17 minutes ago, Dad said:

Being a pro boxer is about more than just knocking cunts out though NEM son 

Ali was fucking terrific at a whole bunch of pish

If there's one person on here that knows that, it's NEM, ffs.

[NEM]

19 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

He ducked the rematch with Klitschko twice, who the got beat by Joshua.

Wilder can punch but he's not a boxer.

He ducked it cause he was ten stone overweight, suicidal and had been on a drink and drugs binge for over a year. Itd have been the same result, he absolutely schooled him in Germany. 
 

Klitschko was over the hill when Joshua beat him but he still came close to sparking the fraud out 

[NEM]

20 minutes ago, Dad said:

Being a pro boxer is about more than just knocking cunts out though NEM son 

Ali was fucking terrific at a whole bunch of pish

You don’t say ?

He was good at self promotion and had a big gob. He was also racist as fuck but that gets brushed under the carpet…..

[manboobs109]

1 minute ago, NEM said:

He ducked it cause he was ten stone overweight, suicidal and had been on a drink and drugs binge for over a year. Itd have been the same result, he absolutely schooled him in Germany. 
 

Klitschko was over the hill when Joshua beat him but he still came close to sparking the fraud out 

C'mon man. You're not claiming he's the greatest heavyweight ever surely? Ducking fights coz he's overweight, a drugs ban, c'mon to fuck.

[NEM]

22 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Look who he beat. Tells you all you need to know.

Aye he beat Moore and Liston (past their best but still good wins over all time greats), Foreman and Frasier. Was lucky in the third one against Joe though (almost quit on his stool) and got beat by Ken Norton, Trevor Berbick and Leon Spinks none of whom could be considered as greats.

 

A great fighter no doubt but the greatest? Not even top ten 

[NEM]

8 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

C'mon man. You're not claiming he's the greatest heavyweight ever surely? Ducking fights coz he's overweight, a drugs ban, c'mon to fuck.

He’s right up there 

Your ruling him out cause he was randomly found years ago with a substance used for body building in his system as if that done him any good - look at him ffs he’s a fat cunt (ah sehs he’s a fat cunt!)

[NEM]

10 minutes ago, Dad said:

Here - twas the time son; there was a fair amount of such pish flying about in all directions by fuck: fight fire with fire 

 

Still - Mikey T for me; that cunt was off the fucking page at his best

Ha ha as if that would apply if he was white ?

Aye nobody was beating Mike Tyson if Cus D’Amato hadn’t died. An absolute wrecking machine 

[The Cockney Don]

Tyson & Foreman in their peak would've had Wilder in three and Fury in six.

[manboobs109]

Big Frank Bruno would've pummelled Fury.

[don corleone]

4 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Big Frank Bruno would've pummelled Fury.

I love Frank Bruno, but behave yourself. 

[don corleone]

7 minutes ago, Dad said:

Mind Frank getting in the ring with Tyson; I for one thought Frank might die that day - scary stuff

Indeed, tyson was a fucking animal. 

[Redforever86]

30 minutes ago, The Cockney Don said:

Tyson & Foreman in their peak would've had Wilder in three and Fury in six.

You think everything fae your shite generation is the best. 
 

Wilder aye, Fury no. He’d beat foreman. Tyson would take him in his prime imo.

 

 

[NEM]

23 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

Big Frank Bruno would've pummelled Fury.

Fishing surely? ?

[NEM]

16 minutes ago, Dad said:

Mind Frank getting in the ring with Tyson; I for one thought Frank might die that day - scary stuff

So did Frank ?

[Poodler]

Wilder is often called the hardest puncher of all time which I think is a disservice to prime Tyson like

 

Just watched this, that coupla uppercuts around 22.10, ooocha boy

[aberdeen1970]

I like Fury and he's got the best all round skillset of all the current heavyweights but declaring him the greatest heavyweight of all time is stretching things a tad. Top 20 maybe. 

He's not even the best British heavyweight of all time (for those who count Lewis as a Brit). I'd say he's probably number two though. 

He'd cause problems for all the previous world champions head to head but his record just doesn't stack up against the greats to be at the top of the all time lists. He's only defended his world title once for a start. 

And comparing his weight against previous guys is a lazy way of ranking people across eras. If that was the case then Mike Tyson would never have won a fight against any of the bigger guys he fought and Usyk wouldn't have beaten Joshua. 

I'm not knocking Fury. He's a big strong heavyweight who has good technical skills, ring intelligence and is decent on his feet. His stamina, chin and power are better than many folk give him credit for too. 

 

[NEM]

41 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

I like Fury and he's got the best all round skillset of all the current heavyweights but declaring him the greatest heavyweight of all time is stretching things a tad. Top 20 maybe. 

He's not even the best British heavyweight of all time (for those who count Lewis as a Brit). I'd say he's probably number two though. 

He'd cause problems for all the previous world champions head to head but his record just doesn't stack up against the greats to be at the top of the all time lists. He's only defended his world title once for a start. 

And comparing his weight against previous guys is a lazy way of ranking people across eras. If that was the case then Mike Tyson would never have won a fight against any of the bigger guys he fought and Usyk wouldn't have beaten Joshua. 

I'm not knocking Fury. He's a big strong heavyweight who has good technical skills, ring intelligence and is decent on his feet. His stamina, chin and power are better than many folk give him credit for too. 

 

I don't think anyone's done that but his size when allied with his skill, ring IQ and durability make him a problem for any heavyweight of any era imo.

[Don Fonte]

22 hours ago, manboobs109 said:

Big Frank Bruno would've pummelled Fury.

Big Bruno and AJ would have been a close fight. Similar levels.

Fury schools them both.

[Guest milne_afc]

Is there such a thing as tag team boxing? That’d be entertaining.

[The Cockney Don]

 

[NEM]

Finally a bit of class from wilder tonight - released a statement congratulating Fury on his win 

[Jocky Balboa]

On 10/12/2021 at 9:28 PM, NEM said:

Ha ha as if that would apply if he was white ?

Aye nobody was beating Mike Tyson if Cus D’Amato hadn’t died. An absolute wrecking machine 

Respectfully disagree. Tyson was exciting in his day, that is for sure, but his record - when properly scrutinised - doesn't support this. He deserves massive credit for cleaning up a weak division and for his early 4 year spell, but the cold, hard fact is that the heavyweight opposition was poor and he never beat an all-time great at the top of their game (Larry Holmes was 38, semi-retired and coming off the back of two defeats). On paper, I'd say his victories against the dangerous and underrated Razor Ruddock were his best.

He was also taken the distance in his prime by several larger guys, who could hold him at bay, guys who weren't in the same league as Holyfield and Lewis. IMHO the latter two (who are both older than Tyson, let's not forget, before people use the age excuse for him again) would have still beaten him had he remained at the top of his game.

A great fighter for sure, but as people like Teddy Atlas and many other top pundits have said, he came undone when he faced people who weren't afraid of him and who really, really stood up to him. Douglas was the first and despite being an underdog, was no mug and having lost his mother just before the fight, gave the performance of his life. He was probably the first to out-bully the bully and thus destroyed the hype and mystique.

[NEM]

18 minutes ago, Jocky Balboa said:

Respectfully disagree. Tyson was exciting in his day, that is for sure, but his record - when properly scrutinised - doesn't support this. He deserves massive credit for cleaning up a weak division and for his early 4 year spell, but the cold, hard fact is that the heavyweight opposition was poor and he never beat an all-time great at the top of their game (Larry Holmes was 38, semi-retired and coming off the back of two defeats). On paper, I'd say his victories against the dangerous and underrated Razor Ruddock were his best.

He was also taken the distance in his prime by several larger guys, who could hold him at bay, guys who weren't in the same league as Holyfield and Lewis. IMHO the latter two (who are both older than Tyson, let's not forget, before people use the age excuse for him again) would have still beaten him had he remained at the top of his game.

A great fighter for sure, but as people like Teddy Atlas and many other top pundits have said, he came undone when he faced people who weren't afraid of him and who really, really stood up to him. Douglas was the first and despite being an underdog, was no mug and having lost his mother just before the fight, gave the performance of his life. He was probably the first to out-bully the bully and thus destroyed the hype and mystique.

You make some good points but Tyson before D'Amato died and he was jailed etc would have beaten Lewis and Holyfield imo.  We'll never know either way though

Tyson was scoofing champagne in his dressing room before the Douglas fight and would have won if not for a slow count from the ref.

[minijc]

 

Not boxing but fuck me, what a beauty from Superbon.

[Guest milne_afc]

Nae need for the celebration. I’d get somebody to batter him for that.

[NEM]

3 hours ago, minijc said:

 

Not boxing but fuck me, what a beauty from Superbon.

Absolute beauty. One championship probably called it a draw ?

[maryhilldon]

5 hours ago, milne_afc said:

Nae need for the celebration. I’d get somebody to batter him for that.

Yep, what an arsehole. No idea who he is but I hope he gets leathered next time. 

[NEM]

It is a pretty classless reaction but to be fair it was a huge upset win - the Thai beating the greatest kick-boxer of all time under his own rules