Aberdeen sack Derek McInnes

[Dynamo]

Conversely, I think this is one of the major reasons some can't see past him!

 

We've been treated with a revolving door of retards, pretty much since Willie Miller departed. That's 25 years of appointing turkey after turkey. A large number of Aberdeen supporters have only known imbeciles working in the dugout at Pittodrie, until McInnes has arrived. The board have to shoulder the blame for this gross incompetence. However, this has created the false illusion that McInnes is a messiah in the minds of some supporters. In reality he neither the messiah, nor a Turkey.

 

Looking objectively, Derek has pretty much had the runaway second highest budget of any manager in Scotland, until last season, when Rangers upped the ante. In reality he's been about par, for his tenure. We've performed as we should really. Although many would argue we should have done better than 1 league cup in the years without Rangers (and Hearts and Hibs for a while). Derek's done a solid job - but he's nothing special.

 

If we're going to continue to have the third highest budget in the Scotland, a competent board should be identify a suitable successor who can help us to build into the future. 'A competent board' is obviously the kicker here!

I agree and also hate the 'yeah but look at before' argument, I just think it's crazy that anyone thinks he's going anywhere (not through his own choice). Some of the meltdowns are mental after one or two bad results - not necessarily on here.

 

We should have won another one or two trophies and the defeat that stick in the throat is the St Johnstome semi final (game should have been over before equaliser). But that's football.

 

We peaked when Celtic were unreal! Shit luck.

[BWG]

I think really he's just a very ordinary manager who has done a very ordinary job, but is made to look better by the abject shite that preceeded him.  I don't blame folk for being afraid of life after McInnes considering the balloon who appointed so many twats before McInnes will still be here after he's gone but it's no reason not to want and expect better.  Fuck happy clappers delighted with finishing runner up.

[Chewie37]

Maybe not ordinary compared to previous managers, but he’s definitely a solid and dependable manager using modern methods compared to before, which has definitely improved us. The Old next level argument incoming

[Tord31]

My view on being open to him leaving is I want the story to end with us pocketing over £1M for him and NOT sacking him or running down his contract.

 

Every manager has a shelf life.

 

I'm happy with him as manager though and we are only a couple of very good signings and a couple of back ups away from challenging for the league this season

[strachanmcgheegoal]

I’d agree with that Tord. Only to add that whilst Derek indeed delivered 2nd “as expected” it’ll be interesting to watch the hun reaction IF they achieve the same thing spending, what,10 times as much?

 

Arguably Europe offsets that though and rather than focus on the St J semi, disappointing though that was, the Maribor and thon Cypriot mob are up there too. Even going into the Burnley tie struggling for a first 11 was piss poor. Cunt of a draw for sure but poor nonetheless given the rewards on offer.

 

Delighted if he stays. Not fussed if he chooses to go for the more money to us the better.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

Maybe not ordinary compared to previous managers, but he’s definitely a solid and dependable manager using modern methods compared to before, which has definitely improved us. The Old next level argument incoming

And this too.

[Tord31]

Looks like the Luton manager has got the Stoke gig so that didn't last long.

 

He was interviewed today

He's got it. Deal agreed. Be concluded this week.

[craegDAMH]

We have won 4 league titles in our 116 year history. The fact that some people feel so entitled by our recent run of second places that it's seen as some sort of loser mentality to be pleased with finishing second shows what a great job McInnes has done. The reality is he has never finished below sevco (whose budget dwarfed ours when they were still in the lower leagues) or Hearts and Hibs (who are our closest clubs in terms of size).

 

The team he built at the tail end of the 16/17 season was the best football I've ever seen live from an Aberdeen team. Unfortunately, Celtic were much better than us that year, and we were still within a ball hair of winning the Scottish Cup.

 

Since that 16/17 team broke up he has done an even better job in my opinion, we have been worse and teams around us have been better, and we've still finished above them and got to another cup final.

 

Derek McInnes is a very good football manager and we'll struggle to replace him when he leaves.

[1903Fitba]

^DNA Dweeb

[Bumper11]

McInnes will never get a better job than Aberdeen now, he has missed his chance.

[Tord31]

McInnes will never get a better job than Aberdeen now, he has missed his chance.

Exactly why he has not jumped so far as he's still relatively young.

 

Off to some shite English mob, sacked and then up the road to Dundee United is not a card he wants to play too soon.

[Andy_123]

Exactly why he has not jumped so far as he's still relatively young.

 

Off to some shite English mob, sacked and then up the road to Dundee United is not a card he wants to play too soon.

 

See Robbie Neilson for this.

 

He, MK Dons and Dundee Utd are all shite. 

[Tyzo_1903]

Absolute nonsense saying he's done an average and ordinary job from folk who want him gone. Reminds me of the people who got a boner when we first got McGhee who was going to make us more attacking and "ruffle the old firm's feathers"...

 

We've finished above Rangers every season since they've been in the Premier. This is despite them spending way above us each summer.

 

We've been runners up in the league and cup numerous times, each time to a team who earn 30 odd million more than us every season.

 

The only big criticisms of the Mcinnes era so far is not getting to the group stage of the Europa League, but even then we've been mega unlucky with the draw in recent years and having to start your season so early is ridiculous.

 

That and the Ronny Deila season, which is more with the board than McInnes himself, we should have spent money in that January window and really pushed a weak Celtic team for the title, they bought Armstrong and GMS and raced ahead.

[The Oxford Don]

"Done only what he should have" is a strange argument

 

First of all, I would argue he has slightly over achieved

 

Even then, a manager doing what they should do is to be lauded, not criticised

 

Plenty of teams wish they had a manager who achieved what he should

 

Unless of course you are saying he should be doing better than is actually possible?

 

Some good points on here by both ‘sides’. 

 

It’s the classic stick-or-twist situation: stick with what we know to be good (if sometimes underwhelming), or twist in the hope of attracting something even better. 

 

All I would say is that he’s coming up to his six-year anniversary, which in the modern era is like a lifetime for a manager to be at one club. So it’s hardly surprising that there might be a bit of mutual unrest, on the part of both McInnes and the support. 

 

If we did manage to get someone significantly better then, with the modern game as it is, we would absolutely not be able to hold on to them for any longer than about a year… just imagine the clamour from down south if a manager led a team like the Dons even close to a title, for example. Would be a great problem to have, right enough. 

 

If he leaves and we replace him with some shambling retard (sadly not unlikely), then we’ll be left pining for the Deek era and will look a right bunch of fuckwits for even thinking about wanting him to leave. 

 

Tricky one, no obvious answers. I suspect time, and McInnes's own managerial ambitions, will eventually settle the matter anyway. 

[Betty Swallicks]

 

Some good points on here by both ‘sides’. 

 

It’s the classic stick-or-twist situation: stick with what we know to be good (if sometimes underwhelming), or twist in the hope of attracting something even better. 

 

All I would say is that he’s coming up to his six-year anniversary, which in the modern era is like a lifetime for a manager to be at one club. So it’s hardly surprising that there might be a bit of mutual unrest, on the part of both McInnes and the support. 

 

If we did manage to get someone significantly better then, with the modern game as it is, we would absolutely not be able to hold on to them for any longer than about a year… just imagine the clamour from down south if a manager led a team like the Dons even close to a title, for example. Would be a great problem to have, right enough. 

 

If he leaves and we replace him with some shambling retard (sadly not unlikely), then we’ll be left pining for the Deek era and will look a right bunch of fuckwits for even thinking about wanting him to leave. 

 

Tricky one, no obvious answers. I suspect time, and McInnes's own managerial ambitions, will eventually settle the matter anyway. 

 

 

Not sure what you mean by this. Little chance of him getting a bigger gig than us now.

He's here for the next 18months minimum.

[The Oxford Don]

Not sure what you mean by this. Little chance of him getting a bigger gig than us now.

He's here for the next 18months minimum.

 

Yeah, that's probably right, unless someone in Englandshire takes a punt on him and/or we suffer some sort of dramatic collapse in results which forces the board to act. Neither scenario seems particularly likely.

 

I think what I'm getting at is that it wouldn't be surprising if he himself was starting to think that things had gone a wee bit stale after six years and he just fancied a new challenge, maybe even take some time out from the game. That sort of thing. 

[strachanmcgheegoal]

There’s also the move to Kingsford to think about. Just imagine employing Steve Paterson, yogi or even a Martin Canning type to perform that role.

[The Hawk]

Not sure what you mean by this. Little chance of him getting a bigger gig than us now.

He's here for the next 18months minimum.

I'd agree. Can't see him walking out, board sack him or an English club come for him. Sunderland were in a mess when he was linked and for whatever reason, no other English club seems to want to take a chance on him.

[Zander1903]

Got his faults but that's that's why he's here, wish he'd come on here a bit more often to find the best formation/team to play...…….we'd win every game!!!!

[dj_bollocks]

I think really he's just a very ordinary manager who has done a very ordinary job, but is made to look better by the abject shite that preceeded him.  I don't blame folk for being afraid of life after McInnes considering the balloon who appointed so many twats before McInnes will still be here after he's gone but it's no reason not to want and expect better.  Fuck happy clappers delighted with finishing runner up.

 

If I could upvote more I would...

[DelMonte]

^DNA Dweeb

Absolute shite reply to a good post

[DelMonte]

We have won 4 league titles in our 116 year history. The fact that some people feel so entitled by our recent run of second places that it's seen as some sort of loser mentality to be pleased with finishing second shows what a great job McInnes has done. The reality is he has never finished below sevco (whose budget dwarfed ours when they were still in the lower leagues) or Hearts and Hibs (who are our closest clubs in terms of size).

 

The team he built at the tail end of the 16/17 season was the best football I've ever seen live from an Aberdeen team. Unfortunately, Celtic were much better than us that year, and we were still within a ball hair of winning the Scottish Cup.

 

Since that 16/17 team broke up he has done an even better job in my opinion, we have been worse and teams around us have been better, and we've still finished above them and got to another cup final.

 

Derek McInnes is a very good football manager and we'll struggle to replace him when he leaves.

Bang on. The fact no one has had an argument against this says it all.

[shooftahmooftah]

Bang on. The fact no one has had an argument against this says it all.

One Tea Cup Some wonderful shit signings. Mostly surrenders to Celtic each game makes some remarkable team selections and substitutions. Bends over to Milne instead of standing up to the prick. Hasn't shaved for 2 years. Plus patter like watter. Master of deception. Europe had been a blink each time. Yep a wonderful manager.

[Dom Sullivan]

One Tea Cup Some wonderful shit signings. Mostly surrenders to Celtic each game makes some remarkable team selections and substitutions. Bends over to Milne instead of standing up to the prick. Hasn't shaved for 2 years. Plus patter like watter. Master of deception. Europe had been a blink each time. Yep a wonderful manager.

Fuck off Hun

[shooftahmooftah]

Fuck off Hun

Did you go to FUCK AND HUN school Dom Dom. It's twats like you who can't face the truth. I bet you have Derek Statues all over your hoose.

[aberdeen1970]

Looks like McInnes was never in the picture at Stoke then. Fair play to them for going for a promising young manager from the lower divisions rather than the usual merry go round.

[YorkDon]

We’re at a bit of a crossroads with old Derek at the moment.

 

Stick,and we get more of the same,which will probably be 3rd/4th most seasons,a few games in Europe,and maybe even win another cup-or not.

 

I think it’s a valid point about what do we hope to achieve.With us being “in the mix” for the title there is an argument for pushing the boat out a little and taking a risk on a few quality signings.We’ve done this before of course,and look what happened!

 

You could also argue that we could sign Messi and Ronaldo,and Derek would play one at left back,and have one on the bench against the Tims in an overly cautious “hope we don’t get” beat line up.

 

What’s the alternative?

 

We can’t attract a big name,proven manager,so we’d have to take a risk with whoever we brought in,and that’s where the big problem lies.

 

None of us want to return to the dark days of McGhee and 9-0,but we desperately want a little bit more than what we are getting at the mo.

 

Derek is doing quite well imo with the resources he has.Finishing above Sevco for example with a smaller budget is admirable,however the constant capitulations to the green half do little to endear him to us further.

 

He has brought respectability to a club that has been floundering since we can remember really.

 

You also have to ask what the ambitions of the board and chairman are.

You get the feeling that Wiggy is happy to be “respectable” again,and that having burned his fingers spending money before,is unlikely to do so again.

If we did,Celtic would most probably outspend us massively and ensure they won the title anyway.

 

It also doesn’t suit the agenda with Scottish football’s powers that be for anyone out with those 2 winning the title.I’d expect in certain games,as they always have done,ridiculous decisions would go aginast is to ensure the status quo.

 

Fuck me ive rambled like fuck in this post

[shooftahmooftah]

We’re at a bit of a crossroads with old Derek at the moment.

 

Stick,and we get more of the same,which will probably be 3rd/4th most seasons,a few games in Europe,and maybe even win another cup-or not.

 

I think it’s a valid point about what do we hope to achieve.With us being “in the mix” for the title there is an argument for pushing the boat out a little and taking a risk on a few quality signings.We’ve done this before of course,and look what happened!

 

You could also argue that we could sign Messi and Ronaldo,and Derek would play one at left back,and have one on the bench against the Tims in an overly cautious “hope we don’t get” beat line up.

 

What’s the alternative?

 

We can’t attract a big name,proven manager,so we’d have to take a risk with whoever we brought in,and that’s where the big problem lies.

 

None of us want to return to the dark days of McGhee and 9-0,but we desperately want a little bit more than what we are getting at the mo.

 

Derek is doing quite well imo with the resources he has.Finishing above Sevco for example with a smaller budget is admirable,however the constant capitulations to the green half do little to endear him to us further.

 

He has brought respectability to a club that has been floundering since we can remember really.

 

You also have to ask what the ambitions of the board and chairman are.

You get the feeling that Wiggy is happy to be “respectable” again,and that having burned his fingers spending money before,is unlikely to do so again.

If we did,Celtic would most probably outspend us massively and ensure they won the title anyway.

 

It also doesn’t suit the agenda with Scottish football’s powers that be for anyone out with those 2 winning the title.I’d expect in certain games,as they always have done,ridiculous decisions would go aginast is to ensure the status quo.

WOW York Don you took the words right out of my mouth excellent post.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

Heart and head York don

 

Head says sensibly invest as now to ensure 3rd or better, bed in Kingsford (training and stadium) and look to qualify for uefa group stages what, 1or 2 years in 5 as a minimum.

 

Heart says fuck the cheeks, do what it takes and win the bastard thing.

[elephantstone78]

One Tea Cup Some wonderful shit signings. Mostly surrenders to Celtic each game makes some remarkable team selections and substitutions. Bends over to Milne instead of standing up to the prick. Hasn't shaved for 2 years. Plus patter like watter. Master of deception. Europe had been a blink each time. Yep a wonderful manager.

I think del Monte meant anyone who is not a slavering retard