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#3931 OFFLINE   aberdeen1970

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Posted 16 February 2019 - 10:10 PM

I've lost patience with him now. Even Kenny McLean showed more class and respect for the club than our captain is showing.

He can fuck off.
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#3932 OFFLINE   sooth_stander

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Posted 16 February 2019 - 10:14 PM

I've lost patience with him now. Even Kenny McLean showed more class and respect for the club than our captain is showing.

He can fuck off.

Correct


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#3933 ONLINE   Tord31

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Posted 16 February 2019 - 10:25 PM

Humerous that GMS is being credited with similar status as Shinnie.

An utter irrelevance in the history of AFC
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#3934 OFFLINE   aberdeen1970

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Posted 16 February 2019 - 10:26 PM

We've had Shinnie's best years anyway. What is he, 29 almost?
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#3935 ONLINE   TheRock

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Posted 16 February 2019 - 10:36 PM

He'll be 28 at the start of next season so he's still plenty left. Not quite the same situation as McGinn and Hayes leaving in their 30s
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#3936 OFFLINE   AllyDon

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Posted 16 February 2019 - 10:42 PM

Said before Christmas that if he did not committe his future to Aberdeen by the close of the January transfer window he should be stripped of the captaincy.

A number of people disagreed for various reasons. Nothing has happened to make me change my mind.

Remove the captaincy now.

Edited by AllyDon, 16 February 2019 - 10:43 PM.

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#3937 OFFLINE   aberdeen1970

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Posted 16 February 2019 - 10:43 PM

He'll be 28 at the start of next season so he's still plenty left. Not quite the same situation as McGinn and Hayes leaving in their 30s


A year younger than I thought.

Chance to renew with a much younger player though.
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#3938 OFFLINE   eeps

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Posted 16 February 2019 - 10:55 PM

Said before Christmas that if he did not committe his future to Aberdeen by the close of the January transfer window he should be stripped of the captaincy.

A number of people disagreed for various reasons. Nothing has happened to make me change my mind.

Remove the captaincy now.


How is that going to help the team now?
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#3939 OFFLINE   Sheepo

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Posted 16 February 2019 - 11:11 PM

On Todays Performance he will be easily replaced


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#3940 OFFLINE   fine-n-dandy

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 12:30 AM

Shinnie & GMS inflated wage offers could easily be better spent.

Both players are wasted wages for what they bring averaged out over a season.
Wouldn't be overly fussed to lose either/both players tbh. Shouldn't be any great task to replace either/both with their wages available

Same would apply for a good few of our first eleven but Shinnie/GMS not signing new deals only highlights them & their poor value right now.
Some folk are/were panicked regarding the potential of losing them (especially Shinnie) but the truth is they are easily replaced. Maybe that fear/worry mostly comes from their doubt in McInnes to find replacements as soon as in the next window

Edited by fine-n-dandy, 17 February 2019 - 12:36 AM.

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 07:19 AM

Shinnie & GMS inflated wage offers could easily be better spent.

Both players are wasted wages for what they bring averaged out over a season.
Wouldn't be overly fussed to lose either/both players tbh. Shouldn't be any great task to replace either/both with their wages available

Same would apply for a good few of our first eleven but Shinnie/GMS not signing new deals only highlights them & their poor value right now.
Some folk are/were panicked regarding the potential of losing them (especially Shinnie) but the truth is they are easily replaced. Maybe that fear/worry mostly comes from their doubt in McInnes to find replacements as soon as in the next window


That last sentence is exactly right.

Other than maybe Lewis and McKenna, pretty much everyone in the squad should be reasonably easily replaceable with a bit of good scouting.

He’ll replace them with a couple loan players and say we couldn’t get similar quality signed permanently within our budget.
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Posted 17 February 2019 - 07:43 AM

I've lost patience with him now. Even Kenny McLean showed more class and respect for the club than our captain is showing.
He can fuck off.


Agreed. Fed up of all this bullshit from him and McInnes. Stop taking the fans for mugs and come out and tell it as it is.
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#3943 OFFLINE   Millertime

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 08:21 AM

Agreed. Fed up of all this bullshit from him and McInnes. Stop taking the fans for mugs and come out and tell it as it is.


Away you go

Its Shinnie taking the piss and he should start to feel the pressure from the fans

Increasingly, I am less concerned about losing him and more concerned about breaking the bank to keep him
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#3944 OFFLINE   old sheep

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 08:30 AM

Away you go
Its Shinnie taking the piss and he should start to feel the pressure from the fans
Increasingly, I am less concerned about losing him and more concerned about breaking the bank to keep him


They are both taking the piss. McInnes, like he did with Jack, is protecting the player. He always likes players who leave the club to do so on good terms with him. That's fair enough, but given its the club captain they both owe the supporters a bit of honesty. More so, when we saw it all before with Jack.
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#3945 OFFLINE   Millertime

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 08:34 AM

They are both taking the piss. McInnes, like he did with Jack, is protecting the player. He always likes players who leave the club to do so on good terms with him. That's fair enough, but given its the club captain they both owe the supporters a bit of honesty. More so, when we saw it all before with Jack.


And do you think he shouldn't protect the player if it is to the trans benefit?

Instead, he should shout out about what's happening to appease the likes of you?

There is also of course the chance that he is telling the truth and they haven't decided yet

Calm down
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#3946 OFFLINE   cruzcampo3

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 08:34 AM

I thought the days of players stringing along the club over new contracts ended years ago.

No player is bigger than the club. Should be making an example of these two captain and club hero with fans our not.

Date should have been set back in August if they hadn’t signed by then offers of the table.

Club needs to grow a back bone and stop being taking for a ride by players
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#3947 OFFLINE   cruzcampo3

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 08:35 AM

I thought the days of players stringing along the club over new contracts ended years ago.

No player is bigger than the club. Should be making an example of these two captain and club hero with fans our not.

Date should have been set back in August if they hadn’t signed by then offers of the table.

Club needs to grow a back bone and stop being taking for a ride by players
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Posted 17 February 2019 - 08:44 AM

And do you think he shouldn't protect the player if it is to the trans benefit?
Instead, he should shout out about what's happening to appease the likes of you?
There is also of course the chance that he is telling the truth and they haven't decided yet
Calm down


There is no benefit to the club on this 'transfer' as the player is out of contract in the summer and we are not receiving any fee. If you think Shinnie hasn't decided yet, you are either incredibly stupid or naive. His interview on Red TV the other week was as much proof as you need. He couldn't have been any more uncomfortable when asked about his future and even stuttered over his pre rehearsed line to take.
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#3949 OFFLINE   Reed or deed

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 08:50 AM

How is that going to help the team now?


Wasting your time asking him questions min.

Just comes out with stupid statements and doesn't come back if you ask him to explain them.

Clown.
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#3950 ONLINE   TheRock

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 10:13 AM

I keep reading that certain players are 'easily' replaced. While I agree losing key players isn't the end of the world, I'm not sure how 'easily' replaced they are.
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Posted 17 February 2019 - 10:18 AM

Any player who is not giving 100 percent like a few yesterday needs to be dropped , some permanently. If they have signed pre contracts with an other club , what's the point of having dreamers running around the pitch. Mcinnes be a f---g MAN and drop them. The loyal supporters deserve more than what was dished up yesterday against the bottom of the league team heading for the championship.
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#3952 OFFLINE   Millertime

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 10:19 AM

Shinnie should be getting it tight now from the stands

He is lucky he has gotten away with it till mid feb

I'll be giving it him tight from my couch
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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:09 AM

How is that going to help the team now?


I didn't say it would help the team. What it will do is show that no player is bigger than the club. If he wants to run his contract down then that's his business but not as our club captain.

Shinnie came to the club as one of the best left backs in the league. He is not one of the best midfielders in the league and certainly should not be one of our highest paid player

I do have concerns about McInnes ability to replace him but that's a different story.
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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:12 AM

Wasting your time asking him questions min.
Just comes out with stupid statements and doesn't come back if you ask him to explain them.
Clown.


No point wasting my time explaining my point of view with you.

You only have the ability to see your own blinkered view.
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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:16 AM

Contract negotiations becoming very tedious year on year. 

 

Players don't want to commit to a new deal we should look to cash in with a year to go. Nobody in our squad is irreplaceable. GMS shows up one in every four games. Shinnie has the drive and determination that is an attribute every combative midfielder should have, but technically he's nowhere near even Kenny McLean.


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#3956 OFFLINE   Millertime

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:30 AM

Contract negotiations becoming very tedious year on year.

Players don't want to commit to a new deal we should look to cash in with a year to go. Nobody in our squad is irreplaceable. GMS shows up one in every four games. Shinnie has the drive and determination that is an attribute every combative midfielder should have, but technically he's nowhere near even Kenny McLean.


In what way do you mean "even" Kenny McLean?

He was top quality, for us
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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:32 AM

Shinnie should be getting it tight now from the stands
He is lucky he has gotten away with it till mid feb
I'll be giving it him tight from my couch


This is the problem though cause he’s from Aberdeen and runs about a bit certain fans thinks he’s the second coming.

No playe is bigger than Aberdeen Football Club
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Posted 17 February 2019 - 12:18 PM

We've done really well recently getting good youngsters signed up on decent length contracts. That's to the club's credit, showing faith in their potential and avoiding situations where we cannot command a good fee for those who move on.

Other players in mid career we've had less success with and they generally run their contract down and move on. With some exceptions of course.

That's not just applicable to Aberdeen though and we benefit from it with players from other clubs too. I think we have to accept it, if a player is in his late 20s and wants to leave then we should be renewing those players with younger players anyway. Jack and McLean are the only two who left mid 20s recently that could have stayed and kicked on with us. Shinnie and GMS are at the tail end of their 20s and less of a concern.
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#3959 OFFLINE   Millertime

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 12:37 PM

We've done really well recently getting good youngsters signed up on decent length contracts. That's to the club's credit, showing faith in their potential and avoiding situations where we cannot command a good fee for those who move on.

Other players in mid career we've had less success with and they generally run their contract down and move on. With some exceptions of course.

That's not just applicable to Aberdeen though and we benefit from it with players from other clubs too. I think we have to accept it, if a player is in his late 20s and wants to leave then we should be renewing those players with younger players anyway. Jack and McLean are the only two who left mid 20s recently that could have stayed and kicked on with us. Shinnie and GMS are at the tail end of their 20s and less of a concern.


Who are the ones who run their contract down and we lose out on, prior to this season, apart from the rat?
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Posted 17 February 2019 - 12:40 PM

Who are the ones who run their contract down and we lose out on, prior to this season, apart from the rat?


Jack.

McLean (although we did well to get a fee and a loan back but he already said way back in November he was leaving at the end of the season)

O'connor and Taylor were both offered new deals but wanted to move on.

Niall McGinn

GMS and Shinnie this year.
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