Scottish Independence Referendum 2

[For Fecks Sake]

Deflect deflect deflect.

 

Glad you’ve admitted the No camp were telling lies.

Deflect, deflect deflect.

 

Glad you've admitted the Yes Camp were also telling lies and the white paper had massive inaccuracies in it.

 

As said above, while this time I think it will be a yes victory due to all the current shite thats going on in Westminster, the SNP will still need to produce a more coherent white paper than last time.

[For Fecks Sake]

Just realised that FFS was referring to pension savings plummeting in relation to indie. Which is private pensions but they have already plummeted due to brexit. They've gone up again a bit but only back to the levels they were almost a year ago. Almost a year of growth completely gone. That's fucked up.

I would switch pension providers if your pension value has plummeted, certainly not the case with my own or Mrs FFS's.

[fatjim]

I would switch pension providers if your pension value has plummeted, certainly not the case with my own or Mrs FFS's.

 

Unfortunately my pension is with my pension provider through auto enrolment as I work for that pension provider. I don't contribute myself because I can't be arsed. Plus I am in the best performing fund consistently over the last 5 years.

[caledonia]

I would switch pension providers if your pension value has plummeted, certainly not the case with my own or Mrs FFS's.

Except in Independent Scotland

Hope you don't have kids with your selfish anti Scotland attitude

 

If you do have kids try thinking why cant my kids live in an independent country like most others in the world.

[Studebaker-90]

And after doing so come to the conclusion that they probably won’t care

[For Fecks Sake]

Except in Independent Scotland

Hope you don't have kids with your selfish anti Scotland attitude

 

If you do have kids try thinking why cant my kids live in an independent country like most others in the world.

 

[Parklife]

Deflect, deflect deflect.

 

Glad you've admitted the Yes Camp were also telling lies and the white paper had massive inaccuracies in it.

 

As said above, while this time I think it will be a yes victory due to all the current shite thats going on in Westminster, the SNP will still need to produce a more coherent white paper than last time.

It was the most thorough document of it's kind ever produced. Of course there were projections and predictions made that turned out incorrect. A prediction, by it's very nature, has a possibility of being incorrect.

 

I do find it incredible that people are so adamant for answers from only one side of a debate though.

[caledonia]

Ok For Fecks Sake you said you voted YES last time

 

Tell us why you did so especially as you like to research everything with links to full fact etc etc

[Fridge]

It was the most thorough document of it's kind ever produced. Of course there were projections and predictions made that turned out incorrect. A prediction, by it's very nature, has a possibility of being incorrect.

 

I do find it incredible that people are so adamant for answers from only one side of a debate though.

Come on now no matter how much you supported it or still do, the dependency on oil income was utter utter bullshit.

 

Everyone involved with operators, big contractors in the know knew there was a downturn coming and voiced their concerns. It was basically predicted that we were going to be the next Norway. That ship sailed long ago and was utter spin.

[For Fecks Sake]

Ok For Fecks Sake you said you voted YES last time

 

Tell us why you did so especially as you like to research everything with links to full fact etc etc

Because as a country we have so much positive things going for us be it Renewables, Oil and Gas, tourism, Whisky, food, drink and we would be able to stand on our own two feet and make a success of it.

 

That said we also have a fair few issues as well that also need addressing.

 

Just because I voted yes, does not mean that I am a saltire waving, joining marches, independence at any cost SNP supporting jacobite, what I do have are concerns around the difficulties we will face when we become independent.

 

Hence why people post pish on here about how great things will be I get annoyed as they are only fooling themselves and spreading false propoganda.

[fatjim]

Because as a country we have so much positive things going for us be it Renewables, Oil and Gas, tourism, Whisky, food, drink and we would be able to stand on our own two feet and make a success of it.

 

That said we also have a fair few issues as well that also need addressing.

 

Just because I voted yes, does not mean that I am a saltire waving, joining marches, independence at any cost SNP supporting jacobite, what I do have are concerns around the difficulties we will face when we become independent.

 

Hence why people post pish on here about how great things will be I get annoyed as they are only fooling themselves and spreading false propoganda.

 

 

I also voted Yes but not for jingoistic reasons. More down to Westminster and how fucked up it is.

I've never voted SNP.

I am also a quarter English which I like to think of as my bowels and arsehole.

[Poodler]

Unfortunately my pension is with my pension provider through auto enrolment as I work for that pension provider. I don't contribute myself because I can't be arsed. Plus I am in the best performing fund consistently over the last 5 years.

When I was nhs I had to opt out every 3 years. Auto enrolment pish. I'll be gone long before pension age.

[fatjim]

When I was nhs I had to opt out every 3 years. Auto enrolment pish. I'll be gone long before pension age.

 

As I work for a pension company I am a contractual joiner so I don't get to opt out. Plus they contribute the full % requirement and I don't have to contribute.

 

If I die before taking benefits then the money is returned to my wife or kids.

[Redforever86]

Deflect, deflect deflect.

 

Glad you've admitted the Yes Camp were also telling lies and the white paper had massive inaccuracies in it.

 

As said above, while this time I think it will be a yes victory due to all the current shite thats going on in Westminster, the SNP will still need to produce a more coherent white paper than last time.

 

Did you fully read the last one?

[caledonia]

Because as a country we have so much positive things going for us be it Renewables, Oil and Gas, tourism, Whisky, food, drink and we would be able to stand on our own two feet and make a success of it.

 

That said we also have a fair few issues as well that also need addressing.

 

Just because I voted yes, does not mean that I am a saltire waving, joining marches, independence at any cost SNP supporting jacobite, what I do have are concerns around the difficulties we will face when we become independent.

 

Hence why people post pish on here about how great things will be I get annoyed as they are only fooling themselves and spreading false propoganda.

There are issues in all countries including staying in the uk and brexit

 

I am independence at any cost but not to keen on the SNP (but will back them till we get it) in fact i think they are to soft with dealing with lies and what the fuck is all that gender crap all about.

[Parklife]

 

It was basically predicted that we were going to be the next Norway. That ship sailed long ago and was utter spin.

No, there was no such prediction. The white paper made comparisons on how Norway have invested their oil revenues and now have the richest sovereign wealth fund on the planet, while the UK haven't saved or invested ours (they've used all ours on killing brown people in the middle east so that we can feel powerful.)

[Bluto10]

is Norway some sort of eldorado cos of this humongous piggy bank it has?

 

(Do the take everything out of petty cash?)

 

wonder why BfP did a runner from said utopia to end up in some arsehole of nowhere carbuncle in the sun?

[Don Fonte]

is Norway some sort of eldorado cos of this humongous piggy bank it has?

 

(Do the take everything out of petty cash?)

 

wonder why BfP did a runner from said utopia to end up in some arsehole of nowhere carbuncle in the sun?

Sex charges

[Parklife]

is Norway some sort of eldorado cos of this humongous piggy bank it has?

 

(Do the take everything out of petty cash?)

 

wonder why BfP did a runner from said utopia to end up in some arsehole of nowhere carbuncle in the sun?

No one said it was a utopia, just that they're rich as fuck.

 

Nice to see the Little Englander abroad joining in the debate with your usual level of cutting insight though.

[Bluto10]

Thanks

[Bluto10]

Sex charges

register?

[Fridge]

Yes but they invested when they were making shitloads of cash. We were basically trying to claim the same model could work for us when everybody knew there was a crash coming and will never get back to the way it was in the 80s.

[Don Fonte]

register?

Got done for touching up a secretary...thought it was common knowledge?

[Bluto10]

what was his name?

[Don Fonte]

Gareth

[Parklife]

Fuckoff Parky you knob. Self entitled little prick

Foos yer doos, Martin Garrix?

[fatjim]

There are issues in all countries including staying in the uk and brexit

 

I am independence at any cost but not to keen on the SNP (but will back them till we get it) in fact i think they are to soft with dealing with lies and what the fuck is all that gender crap all about.

 

Gender crap?

 

Like male and female.

[Henry]

As I work for a pension company I am a contractual joiner 

 

Is there much work for a joiner at a pension company?

[Henry]

wonder why BfP did a runner from said utopia to end up in some arsehole of nowhere carbuncle in the sun?

 

His wife said they were moving to Oz and that was that. 

[Bluto10]

His wife said they were moving to Oz and that was that.

 

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