Out Of Contract

[Tord31]

And what if they don't want to move? By signing a pre contract with someone to join when their contract with us finishes means a nice lump sum all for them when they join their new club. Having a club pay a fee to us for their services prior to them being out of contract, however small, diminishes the size of potential signing on fee they receive

If it was a team with ambitions for second half of season eg Sunderland or Peterborough then you'd think they'd be up for getting them early

[slippers]

Unless we've already identified replacements with a high probability of them signing, I think I'd rather keep them both to the end of the season. Could be the difference of a couple of league places which would be worth more than the £100k or whatever we'd get for either with 5 months left on their contract.

we would be asking for their value and not just giving them away though. 500k minimum for either and I would think about it.

[TheRock]

we would be asking for their value and not just giving them away though. 500k minimum for either and I would think about it.

£500k would make me think twice too but how realistic is that? I know we somehow managed it with Lee Miller but that's more an exception than a rule. I'd happily take Kenny McLean type deal like last winter but again, not sure of that's something that can really be expected.

[Chewie37]

Ball for Shinnie. What a time to be alive.

I like Ball, but no way is he a replacement for the first decent captain we’ve had in a while. Devlin for that job if Shinnie leaves?

[BWG]

I like Ball, but no way is he a replacement for the first decent captain we’ve had in a while. Devlin for that job if Shinnie leaves?

McKenna, unless he is sold then yes Devlin.

 

Ball is just not good enough for this club.

[Chewie37]

McKenna, unless he is sold then yes Devlin.

Ball is just not good enough for this club.

He’s this generations Paul Kane

[AllyDon]

McKenna, unless he is sold then yes Devlin.

 

Ball is just not good enough for this club.

 

Lewis would be in with a shout for the Capatin's armband as well.

 

Agree about Ball and would also not offer Reynolds a new contract, especially if Considine signs a new deal.

[aberdeen1970]

No point keeping Considine and Reynolds. Considine would be my preferred option at this stage.

 

Not bothered if Ball doesn't stay. He's done OK but we need to do better. Tansey will surely get paid off at some stage, whether that's January or the summer.

 

I'd expect Frank Ross will get a 12 month deal. Hopefully the young centre back gets a deal too.

[Tord31]

Lewis would be in with a shout for the Capatin's armband as well.

 

Agree about Ball and would also not offer Reynolds a new contract, especially if Considine signs a new deal.

If Lewis wanted to sign a new 3 or 4 year deal then aye he could be captain. Would not consider him otherwise.

 

Devlin the natural choice as he is on a longer contract already.

[aberdeen1970]

Devlin is the next captain post McKenna leaving.

 

I don't think there's any doubt.

[AllyDon]

If Lewis wanted to sign a new 3 or 4 year deal then aye he could be captain. Would not consider him otherwise.

 

Devlin the natural choice as he is on a longer contract already.

 

Would like to see Lewis contract being extended sooner rather than later anyway. Been a great keeper and appears to be settled up here.

 

Devlin would be my first choice as captain and if shinnie does not sign a new contract in January, I would be moveing the captaincy to him straight away.

[TheRock]

He's obviously 'young for a goalkeeper' but suspect he might fancy a last big pay day as so many footballers do at that stage of their career. Which is fair enough. Does sound like his family are settled in the area, right enough, and does seem to enjoy playing for us so you never know.

[DelMonte]

Devlin needs to prove he can stay fit for a prolonged period before he is captain I'd say.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

To be fair he’s only had the one injury with us and that was on International duty.

[fine-n-dandy]

Would like to see Lewis contract being extended sooner rather than later anyway. Been a great keeper and appears to be settled up here.

 

Devlin would be my first choice as captain and if shinnie does not sign a new contract in January, I would be moveing the captaincy to him straight away.

Captaincy (& extra wee boost to his wages that likely comes with it) may have been part of Shinnies contract agreement.

So removing it from him (unless he breaches his contract in some way) would only cost more cash, as we'd be basically paying two captains wages (extras).

 

All complete speculation & poor guesswork but you can take it as fact if you like.

[CityCentre]

Anyone who thinks Dom Ball is a half decent footballer needs sectioned.

 

Absolutely awful.

[King Street Loon]

Anyone who thinks Dom Ball is a half decent footballer needs sectioned.

 

Absolutely awful.

He in no way should be viewed as a replacement for Shinnie should he move on.

Take a look at Balls role in the goals against Celtic and others before that. Amateurish.

[Shinniesta]

He in no way should be viewed as a replacement for Shinnie should he move on.

Take a look at Balls role in the goals against Celtic and others before that. Amateurish.

I agree he's not a potential Shinnie replacement but I think we will sign him permanently for next season he's a good squad player.

 

I thought he was excellent in the win at Ibrox a few weeks ago and he doesn't moan if he's on the bench. Just keep him away from playing CH unless absolutely necessary but he's a very solid defensive mid.

[Yorston Vasey]

I agree he's not a potential Shinnie replacement but I think we will sign him permanently for next season he's a good squad player.

 

I thought he was excellent in the win at Ibrox a few weeks ago and he doesn't moan if he's on the bench. Just keep him away from playing CH unless absolutely necessary but he's a very solid defensive mid.

Yeah McInnes went back in for Ball quite early on in the window which suggests he really does rate him.

[mcdougall(4)]

I agree he's not a potential Shinnie replacement but I think we will sign him permanently for next season he's a good squad player.

 

I thought he was excellent in the win at Ibrox a few weeks ago and he doesn't moan if he's on the bench. Just keep him away from playing CH unless absolutely necessary but he's a very solid defensive mid.

 

Got away with a ridiculous handball on Saturday, was last man, let it bounce looked terrified

[strachanmcgheegoal]

Defensive mid for sure. Only issue for me is I’d rather see Gleeson in there before Ball based on what we’ve seen to date. Completely different players but it’s the Gleeson type we’re lacking.

[Andy_123]

I’d keep Ball as a squad player for midfield. He’s quite effective when used correctly to his strengths.

 

Gets a bit of a raw deal on here. His shite games are almost always when he’s being played out of position, which almost every player in the team would struggle with as well.

[eeps]

Defensive mid for sure. Only issue for me is I’d rather see Gleeson in there before Ball based on what we’ve seen to date. Completely different players but it’s the Gleeson type we’re lacking.

Hopefully Glees emerging at the right time, just need Forrester to do the same

[Tord31]

two assists for Stevie Glee

[AllyDon]

Captaincy (& extra wee boost to his wages that likely comes with it) may have been part of Shinnies contract agreement.

So removing it from him (unless he breaches his contract in some way) would only cost more cash, as we'd be basically paying two captains wages (extras).

All complete speculation & poor guesswork but you can take it as fact if you like.

In this scenario, you would like to think that running his contract down would be classed as a breach of the captaincy contract so no captaincy or extra money for Shinnie.

 

All complete speculation & poor guesswork but you can take it as fact if you like.

[mcdougall(4)]

In this scenario, you would like to think that running his contract down would be classed as a breach of the captaincy contract so no captaincy or extra money for Shinnie.

 

All complete speculation & poor guesswork but you can take it as fact if you like.

 

 

Boy's  a zoomer, whose head spins at 200rpm

[TheRock]

Is Captaincy something that would get written into a contract? Seems like you might as well have which position you want to play written in too.

[CityCentre]

I’d keep Ball as a squad player for midfield. He’s quite effective when used correctly to his strengths.

 

Gets a bit of a raw deal on here. His shite games are almost always when he’s being played out of position, which almost every player in the team would struggle with as well.

 

My god, well you'll deserve the pish you get next season if that's what you want then.

[DelMonte]

To be fair he’s only had the one injury with us and that was on International duty.

Been signed for a year now but only played 3 months.

[Chewie37]

My god, well you'll deserve the pish you get next season if that's what you want then.

So you don’t rate him as a squad player despite the fact he’s played pretty well and steps in when required without complaint? If you’re expecting an International class player for the supporting squad you’re supporting the wrong team