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[Bluto10]

what’s in the minker box then?

[Old manny]

what’s in the minker box then?

You would need to ask Millertime?

[beer gut]

what’s in the minker box then?

http://www.foreveramber.co.uk/free-baby-box-scotland

[Bluto10]

http://www.foreveramber.co.uk/free-baby-box-scotland

what a joke

[Poodler]

http://www.foreveramber.co.uk/free-baby-box-scotland

 

Genuinely fantastic idea.

 

I worked on some child protection cases a few years ago in another job and some of the houses I entered in seaton really defied belief. We're talking no carpets, proper trainspotting stuff, babies rolling about fending for themselves until the parents got up. Dog shit everywhere, one hoose even had a gun.

 

I think it's a great idea and anyone who would disagree is a complete fucking moron

[Parklife]

Even if youre a millionaire?

If the millionaire applies for one, they shall receive one.

 

It says something about MT that he's outraged by the concept yet still actually asked to get one.

[DD1903]

Genuinely fantastic idea.

 

I worked on some child protection cases a few years ago in another job and some of the houses I entered in seaton really defied belief. We're talking no carpets, proper trainspotting stuff, babies rolling about fending for themselves until the parents got up. Dog shit everywhere, one hoose even had a gun.

 

I think it's a great idea and anyone who would disagree is a complete fucking moron

agree - for some kids this will be the only clothes/toys/basics etc that they get. Which is a shame. The way some live is unbelievable

[Ohjimmyjimmy]

Genuinely fantastic idea.

 

I worked on some child protection cases a few years ago in another job and some of the houses I entered in seaton really defied belief. We're talking no carpets, proper trainspotting stuff, babies rolling about fending for themselves until the parents got up. Dog shit everywhere, one hoose even had a gun.

 

I think it's a great idea and anyone who would disagree is a complete fucking moron

Nailed it in one. Millertime is clearly a complete fucking moron.

 

His narcissistic personality disorder means he is utterly incapable of thinking about anyone other than himself. Twat.

[shut up meg]

Genuinely fantastic idea.

 

I worked on some child protection cases a few years ago in another job and some of the houses I entered in seaton really defied belief. We're talking no carpets, proper trainspotting stuff, babies rolling about fending for themselves until the parents got up. Dog shit everywhere, one hoose even had a gun.

 

I think it's a great idea and anyone who would disagree is a complete fucking moron

 

100% spot on.

[shut up meg]

^ he doesnt want to share his bloody sandwiches

 

TFS

 

“You give a poor man a fish and you feed him for a day. You teach him to fish and you give him an occupation that will feed him for a lifetime"

 

MT would probably eat the fish and break the poor bastards fishing rod.

[mcdougall(4)]

Genuinely fantastic idea.

 

I worked on some child protection cases a few years ago in another job and some of the houses I entered in seaton really defied belief. We're talking no carpets, proper trainspotting stuff, babies rolling about fending for themselves until the parents got up. Dog shit everywhere, one hoose even had a gun.

 

I think it's a great idea and anyone who would disagree is a complete fucking moron

But not doing it on a universal basis gives more resource for the genuinely needy.

[Parklife]

But not doing it on a universal basis gives more resource for the genuinely needy.

I'd suggest that means-testing the baby-box will be more costly than providing it for the people who do not need it.

[Parklife]

Wrong, if you don't pay tax they are free

 

If you do contribute to the country and pay tax then the box has been paid for out of your monthly salary

By that "logic" (and i use that word loosely), walking down a pavement isn't free if you pay tax.

[Foster14]

Well, you say that but I would argue it's inhumane to have more kids than you can afford

 

Interesting philosophy. The Scottish (and UK) population is already an ageing population and there is a significant amount of children already living below the poverty line. Would be struggling waiting on those that can afford it to build up the population alone, kids would just get in the way of Cuba holidays and the likes.

[Redforever86]

Haha not even going to pretend I know what you're on about

 

What I DO know is if I am paying more tax here than I would be in England then the powers in power up here aren't for me

 

So, I'll use them to get independence then drop them instantly

Except when you take into account council tax freezes and the SNP abolishing business rates for small premises we arent more taxes and the above are fairly right wing policies.

 

BEAT IT.

[shut up meg]

Well, you say that but I would argue it's inhumane to have more kids than you can afford

 

If people didn't have several kids who need supported by the tax payer, there would be more money to support further

 

With an aging population, we need to increase the birthrate.

It is in the long term interest of the nation for folks to have kids.

We give subsidies to farmers to ensure we have food on the table, so why shouldn't we give subsidies to parents.

[Pash]

A baby is a baby.

 

Baby Hitler was no different to baby Jesus, minus the moustache.

[Henry]

It's not though is it?

 

I only recently lobbied, successfully, for a grit box at the end of my street as the closest one was metres away

 

So, unless I was getting a council tax rebate then I should get a grit box as close to my house as the people who had one already

 

Could you specify how many metres away it was?

[Parklife]

So, unless I was getting a council tax rebate then I should get a grit box as close to my house as the people who had one already

You're an absolute cunt of a human-being.

[robbojunior]

Correct

 

No WAY should I or people of my same position be given one

It costs £0 in means testing to offer it to everyone who applies.

 

If people in your position (I assume you mean someone who is a massive selfish bellend) dont need one, simply dont apply.

 

That is by far the most cost effective means of providing baby boxes to those who do need them.

 

By applying for one when by your own admission you dont need one, you are effectively the reason why you are paying more tax. And by calling for it to be means tested you are also essentially asking to pay more tax to administer this process.

 

Why not donate your baby box to someone who actually needs it rather than being a twat

[Old manny]

The SNP's introduction of a progressive tax system, which takes a wee bit more from the wealthy, was met with the usual forecast of economic Armageddon from the right. Millionaires were going to relocate, inward investment would collapse, companies would bugger off and we would be visited by the four horsemen of the apocalypse. Quite the reverse, figures show that foreign investment has never been higher, there has been no exodus of business and the wealthy and overall we are doing quite well in challenging economic times. Principles like free education, free prescriptions, baby boxes et al funded by taxes have been maintained and on the whole the people support the Government. Compare this to England where ordinary people are being fucked over by the Tories, and amazingly still vote for them, we are doing alright.

[beer gut]

Wrong, if you don't pay tax they are free

 

If you do contribute to the country and pay tax then the box has been paid for out of your monthly salary

Yeah yeah whatever you obtuse cunt. Its for the baby not the parents so i don't see why tax is relevant. Baby's dont pay tax. I have a gripe with the SNPs tax policy but not with regards to baby boxes. I'd rather the government handed out baby boxes than dish oot cash because cash would just be wasted on shite.

[Poodler]

You're an absolute cunt of a human-being.

 

Lol MT has done this for years, I don't believe he really is what his online persona makes him out to be.

[alscotoz]

Lol MT has done this for years, I don't believe he really is what his online persona makes him out to be.

 

Evidence?

[fatjim]

It's not punishing a wee baby by not including hundreds of baby grows and clothes beyond a year

 

Would fit better offering vouchers for free baby milk/food

 

My understanding is that baby stuff in the main is exempt from special deals or going up in price exponentially due to it being a necessity. there might be implications with giving them away free or having vouchers for them.

[fatjim]

Got two kids born before the baby box came in. I have never voted SNP and probably not likely to either but I think the baby box is a fantastic idea. If I have to pay more tax for services like this then I will happily pay it. Higher earners should be taxed more any way.

[Ohjimmyjimmy]

You know how HMRC send you an annual statement with a breakdown of where your tax has been spent?

 

It would be absolute buttons the amount that it costs each taxpayer in the UK (because remember its the UK government who collect the tax) for the small amount of babies born in Scotland each year.

 

Compare that against how much is spent on wars in other countries, maintaining WMD or even on MPs expenses and see how much you give a fuck then.

 

Money well spent imo.

[Bluto10]

Shouldn’t be free though (for the middle class types)

That’s just mental.

[ILikeJam]

Where things are that extreme the kids should be taken off the scum bags

 

 

Because institutionalising kids and prosecuting parents is completely cost-free and proven to be beneficial to society as a whole?

Fucking hell.

[Dynamo]

Wrong, if you don't pay tax they are free

 

If you do contribute to the country and pay tax then the box has been paid for out of your monthly salary

 

Glad not everyone has the same selfish self centred view of life like you do.