Ronald Hernández

[aberdeen1970]

Aye but even so if he was decent he'd be playing him. 

 

[WesthillWanderersFC]

1 minute ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Aye but even so if he was decent he'd be playing him. 

 

He must be poor if Shay Logan gets game time ahead of him. 
When he signed, he sounded ideal for the right wing back position.

He must be about 4th or 5th choice - a pretty expensive 4th or 5th choice. 

[Ke1t]

Atlanta is a team that can afford a million quid on a South American, and have routinely signed South Americans. They currently have 8 in their squad... including a Venezuelan.  

Aberdeen is a team that really can't afford to spend a million quid even on a first team regular, never mind on a guy who never plays, and is also a club that historically doesn't sign many South Americans. 

Hernandez, a player that exactly matches Atlanta's signing policy but not Aberdeen's observable signing policy at all, signed for Aberdeen shortly after the 'partnership' was created between Atlanta and Aberdeen. 

Is it likely that Aberdeen and McInnes were the prime architects of this move? 

Also, it STILL seems weird that the club is getting no blowback on this signing when a guy like May, who cost half the price and DID play regularly, caused nothing but aggravation among the fans. 

 

[PondHopper]

3 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Aye but even so if he was decent he'd be playing him. 

 

What I've been driving at is managers have biases and can play favorites. If a new coach takes over a college program and has holdovers on the team as an example from here in the states. Or when he's used to making the decisions, but a new owner/chairman comes in and dictates to him.

[PondHopper]

If Ronald stays with his NT I'm pretty sure the club will be ok. To me it sounds like ATL UTD and the chairman pushing Ronnie on a manager who was clueless as to even what languages he spoke.

[Sonoftherock]

12 hours ago, Ke1t said:

Atlanta is a team that can afford a million quid on a South American, and have routinely signed South Americans. They currently have 8 in their squad... including a Venezuelan.  

Aberdeen is a team that really can't afford to spend a million quid even on a first team regular, never mind on a guy who never plays, and is also a club that historically doesn't sign many South Americans. 

Hernandez, a player that exactly matches Atlanta's signing policy but not Aberdeen's observable signing policy at all, signed for Aberdeen shortly after the 'partnership' was created between Atlanta and Aberdeen. 

Is it likely that Aberdeen and McInnes were the prime architects of this move? 

Also, it STILL seems weird that the club is getting no blowback on this signing when a guy like May, who cost half the price and DID play regularly, caused nothing but aggravation among the fans. 

 

This is pretty much what I've been saying for months.  Why has no-one questioned McInnes or the club.

If you look up the quotes, after he signed McInnes does allude to him being his signing.  He said they had been tracking Hernandez for a long time, and coincidentally they consulted the Atlanta scouts, who also knew about the player.  He said that made it easier to make a decision on him...

 

[aberdeen1970]

I think McInnes was speaking shite though and didn't make a very good job of his story.  Whether intentionally or not, who knows 

[Andy_123]

1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said:

I think McInnes was speaking shite though and didn't make a very good job of his story.  Whether intentionally or not, who knows 

A fair assumption given that’s about all he seems to do these days 

[Tord31]

On 12/9/2020 at 9:13 PM, Ke1t said:

Atlanta is a team that can afford a million quid on a South American, and have routinely signed South Americans. They currently have 8 in their squad... including a Venezuelan.  

Aberdeen is a team that really can't afford to spend a million quid even on a first team regular, never mind on a guy who never plays, and is also a club that historically doesn't sign many South Americans. 

Hernandez, a player that exactly matches Atlanta's signing policy but not Aberdeen's observable signing policy at all, signed for Aberdeen shortly after the 'partnership' was created between Atlanta and Aberdeen. 

Is it likely that Aberdeen and McInnes were the prime architects of this move? 

Also, it STILL seems weird that the club is getting no blowback on this signing when a guy like May, who cost half the price and DID play regularly, caused nothing but aggravation among the fans. 

 

That's 100% my assumption on it. He is brought in for Atlanta and the Dons can benefit for a period from this international player and coin in the benefit of him playing at the copa america (cancelled).

He then moves to Atlanta once theyve moved a couple of their south americans to europe for some cash (as is their model). They have quotas on foreign players which adds to the theory he was waiting to go to Atlanta.

Covid hits and fucks it all up (the transfers out of existing atlanta players)

McInnes decides to take the huff and have him as 25th choice player in the squad.

Presumably he still makes his way to Atlanta in January or the summer.

If that was not the story then its even more absurd to spend so much money and never throw him in and just write it all off.

He leaves in January is the best bet and if he goes on to a have a good career we look like complete tits.

[super_al]

He must go down as Aberdeen's worst signing ever based on the fee we have reportedly paid for him and his lack of game time.

[BrianFaePerth]

As eh said at the time, the big winners here are Stabæk. The financial shortfall of only having 600 fans at a game this year has been nicely offset by flogging Ronny to Aberdeen. Bet they still can’t believe their luck.

[shut up meg]

https://uk.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-40735720090701

[Laichomoray]

10 hours ago, super_al said:

He must go down as Aberdeen's worst signing ever based on the fee we have reportedly paid for him and his lack of game time.

Makes Brian O'Neills look a shrewd bit of business

[Tord31]

5 hours ago, shut up meg said:

https://uk.reuters.com/article/idINIndia-40735720090701

Nae sure its quite money laundering but it reminds me of my old plan to get shot of McInnes.

get someone to fire down to the English Championship with a brown envelope of £100k-£200k cash for any chairman who fancies paying the compo to bring in as manager. Seemed like a no brainer to me.

That ship has sailed now though. 

[aberdeen1970]

Even if Hernandez leaves on a free without playing another game the deal Alex Miller made to swap Billy Dodds for Robbie Winters and pay £650k will still be the worst in our history. 

Paul Bernard deal runs that one pretty close as well. 

[NEM]

4 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Even if Hernandez leaves on a free without playing another game the deal Alex Miller made to swap Billy Dodds for Robbie Winters and pay £650k will still be the worst in our history. 

Paul Bernard deal runs that one pretty close as well. 

Shite

Bernard cost about the same as Hernandez and made about 100 appearances helping us to a league cup win in the process. Aye overall he was a disappointment but that was mainly down to injuries. Nowhere near as bad a signing as the likes of O’Neill and Hernandez 

[aberdeen1970]

10 minutes ago, NEM said:

Shite

Bernard cost about the same as Hernandez and made about 100 appearances helping us to a league cup win in the process. Aye overall he was a disappointment but that was mainly down to injuries. Nowhere near as bad a signing as the likes of O’Neill and Hernandez 

On reflection I might have been a bit harsh on Bernard as he was unlucky with injuries but £1m in 1995 is about £2m in today's money. 

Still the highest transfer fee paid by a Scottish team outside Huns or Celtic, 25 years later. 

But as you say, we did get about 100 games out of him. Not many were that memorable though. 

[Ten Caat]

2 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said:

Even if Hernandez leaves on a free without playing another game the deal Alex Miller made to swap Billy Dodds for Robbie Winters and pay £650k will still be the worst in our history. 

Paul Bernard deal runs that one pretty close as well. 

I agree about the Dodds/Winters deal. 

Bernard was bad luck....when he did play (admittedly it wasnt particularly often....100 games or so in 6 years IIRC) he was fairly decent. 

[strachanmcgheegoal]

Decent midfield that.  Jess, Bernard and grunty.

[Crossbow]

On 12/11/2020 at 4:58 AM, super_al said:

He must go down as Aberdeen's worst signing ever based on the fee we have reportedly paid for him and his lack of game time.

Brian O'Neill - in an era where we had genuine choice and were highly thought of. $850k. At the same time Henrik Larsson cost Celtic £650k.

[shut up meg]

Brian O'Neil wasn't a bad player, he was just used incorrectly by Alex Miller.

I know a boy who socialised with O'Neil when he was here and was told that Miller gave him very strict instructions to sit in front of the 2 centre halves and not to go more than 20 yards from the CH's.

In his first game in this role, he went for a few balls outside of the imaginary 20 yard box and Miller went absolutely mental with him. The next game he did the same and Miller subbed him. Afterwards, Miller told him if the ball is there and he could win it and it is outside of 20 box, he was to leave it and let someone else to deal with it, his job was to protect the CH's.

O'Neil told the lad I know that he was frustrated as he knew the supporters were unhappy with him because they thought he was either lazy or shite but he was being instructed by his manager to do a strict job and if he didn't follow his instructions then he'd be subbed then probably not picked for the next match.

Of course I only heard this one sided story from a 3rd party but anyone who watched an Alex Miller team could well believe the ultra defensive prick giving his team this type of instructions.

[NEM]

4 hours ago, shut up meg said:

Brian O'Neil wasn't a bad player, he was just used incorrectly by Alex Miller.

I know a boy who socialised with O'Neil when he was here and was told that Miller gave him very strict instructions to sit in front of the 2 centre halves and not to go more than 20 yards from the CH's.

In his first game in this role, he went for a few balls outside of the imaginary 20 yard box and Miller went absolutely mental with him. The next game he did the same and Miller subbed him. Afterwards, Miller told him if the ball is there and he could win it and it is outside of 20 box, he was to leave it and let someone else to deal with it, his job was to protect the CH's.

O'Neil told the lad I know that he was frustrated as he knew the supporters were unhappy with him because they thought he was either lazy or shite but he was being instructed by his manager to do a strict job and if he didn't follow his instructions then he'd be subbed then probably not picked for the next match.

Of course I only heard this one sided story from a 3rd party but anyone who watched an Alex Miller team could well believe the ultra defensive prick giving his team this type of instructions.

Wouldn’t be surprised. That hun cunt was a joke of an appointment. Probably our worst ever manager. Milne should have been chased out of Pittodrie for that alone 

[strachanmcgheegoal]

Yet he probably has the best admittedly coach’s CV since Fergie.  

[Tord31]

4 hours ago, Millertime said:

What?

Alex Miller assistant manager at liverpool for champions league finals etc.

[Ke1t]

Bernard wasn't terrible, but we could have got someone equally as effective/ineffective for a fuck sight less than a million quid. 

[Ernie McCracken]

11 hours ago, shut up meg said:

Brian O'Neil wasn't a bad player, he was just used incorrectly by Alex Miller.

I know a boy who socialised with O'Neil when he was here and was told that Miller gave him very strict instructions to sit in front of the 2 centre halves and not to go more than 20 yards from the CH's.

In his first game in this role, he went for a few balls outside of the imaginary 20 yard box and Miller went absolutely mental with him. The next game he did the same and Miller subbed him. Afterwards, Miller told him if the ball is there and he could win it and it is outside of 20 box, he was to leave it and let someone else to deal with it, his job was to protect the CH's.

O'Neil told the lad I know that he was frustrated as he knew the supporters were unhappy with him because they thought he was either lazy or shite but he was being instructed by his manager to do a strict job and if he didn't follow his instructions then he'd be subbed then probably not picked for the next match.

Of course I only heard this one sided story from a 3rd party but anyone who watched an Alex Miller team could well believe the ultra defensive prick giving his team this type of instructions.

Doesn't explain why he was absolutely shite under Aitken though. 

[Hagi's pubic hair]

"Aberdeen boss Derek McInnes hints at Ronald Hernandez departure during club’s AGM"

https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/sport/football/aberdeen-fc/donsnews/aberdeen-boss-derek-mcinnes-hints-at-ronald-hernandez-departure-during-clubs-agm

[Andy_123]

Is this wishful thinking? Or is a deal actually lined up?

Can’t see many suitors given he’ll have spent the last year sitting on his arse doing nothing.

[fine-n-dandy]

If it’s missing his family then maybe MSL side is mug enough to take him.

Take Ojo too

[Dynamo]

The deal stinks.