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#61 OFFLINE   Bluto10

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 10:23 AM

How wenger keeps arsenal competing in the ultra competitive CL for Nearly two decades in the competition on the back of three league titles is beyond me.
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Posted 28 August 2014 - 10:27 AM

How wenger keeps arsenal competing in the ultra competitive CL for Nearly two decades in the competition on the back of three league titles is beyond me.

 

As is staying up for a midweek European game.


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 10:29 AM

The whole thing is an absolute jokes, especially when teams can't be in the same groups, absolute shambles.

 

Teams #CFC can't face in the group stage: Barcelona, Bayern, Real Madrid, Benfica, FC Porto, Liverpool, Manchester City Atletico & Arsenal.


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 11:04 AM

Yup, Champions League is and always will be a farce.

 

Chelsea given easy group I'd imagine and then win games comfortably then everyone says 'Chelsea for Champions League' despite not having to work hard for it until the quarter final.

 

That is the way of the modern mans Champions League fan. They have their judgement clouded by the apparent best league in the world signing the apparent best players in the world.

 

Hang on whilst we do the transfer window counter. 'Oh look English teams have spent 700 million pounds'. Fuck aff. Imagine Sky Italia or Sky Portugal sitting down to glamorise the amount of spending they do in a transfer window, they wouldn't - because they have self respect, English cunts fuck off.


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 11:34 AM

You're still letting g the media tel you what's what berty min.

Man up min and learn to think for yersel.
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Posted 28 August 2014 - 11:44 AM

You're still letting g the media tel you what's what berty min.

Man up min and learn to think for yersel.

 

I think I'm the one who does learn to think for themselves....it's every other muppet who doesn't. 'EPL best league in the world though'. :clangers2:


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 11:46 AM

You keep saying that.

Name a better one.

I'm aging devils and here; I actually think there insn any such thing as a stand out league
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Posted 28 August 2014 - 11:47 AM

You keep saying that.

Name a better one.

I'm aging devils and here; I actually think there insn any such thing as a stand out league

 

There perhaps isn't, however because the presenters tell us (ignorant cunts) it doesn't mean to say it is.

 

A league which doesn't get much publicity in India could be for all they know, but they are ignorant cunts and want to tell the world it's the best league in the world.

 

Thank fuck Italian season starts this weekend.


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 11:50 AM

Spanish league best quality.

English league best for drama. 

Italian league for general nut jobs on and off the pitch. 

German league for fans.

Dutch league for goals. 

Scottish league for boredom. 

French league is boring too actually.

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 11:51 AM

"It's the pace of the premier league"

"These new players really struggle with the speed of the game here in England"

"Most exciting league in the world" usually after some team tries to score a goal to make it 1-1

"Only happens in the EPL"

"Best league in the world" as Man u and Chelsea stink the place out after a dull as fuck 0-0

 

If they shout loud enough thick cunts will believe that it only happens there and no where else.


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 11:53 AM

"It's the pace of the premier league"

"These new players really struggle with the speed of the game here in England"

"Most exciting league in the world" usually after some team tries to score a goal to make it 1-1

"Only happens in the EPL"

"Best league in the world" as Man u and Chelsea stink the place out after a dull as fuck 0-0

 

If they shout loud enough thick cunts will believe that it only happens there and no where else.

 

^^ Someone gets what I was meaning anyways. +1


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:03 PM

Its pretty easy
Just cause journos say it doesn't mean you need to get upset about it
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Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:05 PM

Its pretty easy
Just cause journos say it doesn't mean you need to get upset about it

It's forced on you though, you can't really escape it and over the course of a season it just really annoys me and many others.


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:08 PM

You can ignore it minij min, you're a grown adult ffs.

At home I put on music. And in the boozer there's no sound.

Be proactive min.
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Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:12 PM

Although on the same theme.....

Why are all journos describing di Maria's 59m quid transfer as toomuch.?
"Alarmingly expensive" is the latest I've seen.

Compared to many other transfers its a good price for a 26year old
(Bale, James, Suarez for example)

Strange. I would expect at least one of them to say the price is favourable when compared to the world record and others.
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Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:16 PM

People are just getting confused with the price for the player and players that Man United need. 


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 12:21 PM

I'd say the definitely need di maria.

Good business for a year or two from Bayern for Alonso. 8m apparently.

Despite crazy sums for folk like bale and James there's still good cheap deals out there
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Posted 29 August 2014 - 01:24 PM


I'm aging devils and here

 

Great stuff, keep it up.

And in the boozer there's no sound.

 

 

Certainly not any conversation in your corner anyway, maybe the tapping of keys if your phone isn't on silent. 


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Posted 16 September 2014 - 07:54 AM


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Posted 16 September 2014 - 09:28 AM

And so it begins again. The familial midweek gatherings of football’s galácticos. The hairs-up-on-nape anthem, with violins jinking up and down the scale and a choir of Uefa-approved angels exhorting Ce sont les meilleures équipes! Sie sind die allerbesten Mannschaften! The main event! – even when it is Maribor v Sporting. The gripes that the Champions League is a misnomer, given this year’s edition contains 17 domestic title winners out of 32 teams. And – inevitably – those hazy, apparently lazy, wasn’t as good in my day laments: that the group stages are more predictable than ever.

 
Such comments are not new. Little in football is. We have heard them since the 1999-2000 season, when the Champions League swelled to 32 teams and Uefa stretched the definition of “champions” to allow up to four clubs from one country. But the gripes have strengthening justification.
 
There are several ways to show this. One is to examine how teams from Europe’s biggest five leagues – Spain, England, Germany, Italy and France – have performed against other leagues in the group and knockout stages. Here the evidence is clear. The top teams are winning more often. Between 1999-2000 and 2004-05, teams from the Big Five leagues won 117 of 215 games, a win rate of 54%. The next five seasons, between 2005-06 and 2009-10, that figure climbed to 60%. And for the last five years it has been higher again – 64%.
 
Shocks still occur. Chelsea lost to Basel home and away before reaching the semi-finals last season, while Copenhagen held Juventus and Anderlecht clung on against Paris Saint-Germain but there is less resistance and fewer surprises. What is supposed to be a competition too often resembles a procession.
 
Bookies odds show a similar pattern historically. According to data from Oddsportal.com, there were 25 matches in the 2004-05 Champions League during which the favourite started at odds of 1-2 or shorter, implying they had at least a 67% chance of victory. By 2009-10 that figure had climbed to 36. Last season it was 41. Incidentally, there are five matches with short-priced favourites this week: Juventus v Malmo, Liverpool v Ludogorets Razgrad, Real Madrid v Basel, Porto v Bate Borisov, and Barcelona v Apoel Nicosia. A £100 bet on Barcelona would win just £7.
 
Unsurprisingly, the richest leagues dominate the knockout stages more than before, too. Last season was the first in European Cup history in which no team from outside the Big Five leagues reached the quarter-finals. We have journeyed a long way from the first Champions League group stages in 1992-93 – when the last eight featured Marseille, Rangers, CSKA Moscow and Bruges in one pot and Milan, Gothenburg, Porto and PSVEindhoven in the other.
 
Along with predictability of the group stages comes another problem: over-familiarity. Arsenal’s trip to Borussia Dortmund on Tuesday is their third in four seasons. So is Manchester City’s visit to Bayern Munich on Wednesday. The Westfalenstadion is one of the finest in Europe; but part of European football’s attraction is wanderlust, not just wandering down familiar paths and into familiar pubs. What should be done depends on how worrisome you perceive the problem to be.
 
But however much Uefa attempted to level the playing field by increasing the rewards for the likes of, say, Ajax or Apoel for making the Champions League, they would still find it impossible to compete with Europe’s biggest sides without a sugar daddy. Even if Uefa wanted to redistribute wealth from rich to poor, it would never renew the risk of a breakaway European League.
 
And what is good for the Champions League isn’t necessarily good for domestic competition. All clubs in the last 32 get a participation payment of £7m and an added £396,000 for every group match. That is chicken feed for Premier League clubs but it can ruin the ecosystem of smaller leagues because one club is so much richer than everyone else.
 
I have sympathy for those romantics who hark back to the old European Cup, but it is never going to happen. BT Sport will pay £897m to show live coverage of the Champions League. It, like all Uefa’s broadcast partners, wants the big clubs to survive as long as possible. A wider knockout tournament is just too risky.
 
At least Uefa’s plan to reserve the first pot of seeds for champions, which would have ensured Manchester City and Juventus – seeded second – had better prospects this season is welcome. But it is a half-turn of the spanner, not a radical tinkering. It is unlikely to help smaller clubs progress deeper.
 
There is a counter-argument: that the current set-up, for all its faults, is made worth it by the unfiltered thrills of the knockout stages. Remember that in the past 10 years there have been eight different winners of the Champions League – while in that time in England, Spain and Italy, there have been three title winners, and the Bundesliga four. Meanwhile Dortmund and Atlético Madrid show it is possible to go from domestic mediocrity to a European Cup final within three years.
 
In some respects, then, the Champions League resembles a Hollywood blockbuster that makes you forget its formulaic early stages with a few unforgettable set pieces in its final stages. But is it wrong to wish that we did not have to wait until February for the highest quality drama?

 

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 08:04 PM

Arsenal taken a bit of a hiding from Dortmund tonight so far.  Lucky their only 2-0 down as the Germans have come very, very close a couple of times.


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Posted 16 September 2014 - 08:22 PM

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 09:33 PM

Arsenal taken a bit of a hiding from Dortmund tonight so far.  Lucky their only 2-0 down as the Germans have come very, very close a couple of times.

Coincidentally Arsenal missed two great chances at 1-0.

 

EDIT: The first was actually at 0-0.


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Posted 16 September 2014 - 10:45 PM

Liverpool and Arsenal both shite tonight.
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Posted 17 September 2014 - 07:20 AM

3 points on the board for them even if they were shite.

 

That is what matters.

 

Teams play shite and lose in the flawed competition AKA Champions League...so Liverpool have 3 points, no one remembers performances, they remember scores.


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 08:01 AM

Coincidentally Arsenal missed two great chances at 1-0.

 

EDIT: The first was actually at 0-0.

 

Why don't you mention the player in question?

 

I'd LOVEEEEEEEEEEE to know who it was that missed chances...


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 08:03 AM

Big European nights are always special at an field.

Good to see Stevie G get on the score sheet on an emotional return to the CL for bin
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Posted 17 September 2014 - 08:06 AM

Ludogorets last couple of mins, fuck me :laughing:


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 08:07 AM

Big European nights are always special at an field.

 

 

So they say, but only been to 2 when they have been unreal...I've been a fair few like.

 

They were probably more special in the 80s, but continue to churn out that line.


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Posted 17 September 2014 - 08:08 AM

Fuckin hell Roberto.
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