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We should have voted for the change in voting and i do not trust Milne to do it in one,two or three years and agree with Carluke_Hibee that he only did it because he thought we were good enough for second place (we might be yet but who knows)

There are some on here (and i can link to the posts) who were shouting for this change as well but now that Milne has voted against it have had a sudden bout of amnesia.

Its ok saying it will happen in a few years but a lot could happen in a few years

To give the old firm time is just nonsense get it done now.

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We should have voted for the change in voting and i do not trust Milne to do it in one,two or three years and agree with Carluke_Hibee that he only did it because he thought we were good enough for second place (we might be yet but who knows)

There are some on here (and i can link to the posts) who were shouting for this change as well but now that Milne has voted against it have had a sudden bout of amnesia.

Its ok saying it will happen in a few years but a lot could happen in a few years

To give the old firm time is just nonsense get it done now.

Bollocks, many if not all of us had a WTF moment when we found out, then word spread about why it had been done, so no amnesia, just consideration of the issues, and how Sevco are still in the background driving many decisions, they need to be watched

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i watched most of the sevco v annan game last week. 2 very even sides, a couple of huns were faster and technically better, but very even. it beggars belief that impartial football hacks thought that the huns would win every game home and away.

Most teams seem to hold their own very well for about 60 to 70 minutes then collapse. I would imagine this is due to them being part timers and the New Hun being pro.

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This would ne nice

 

The new league system being proposed has a nice sweetener. Yes they would still technically be "up a division" since there would only be 3 divisions but they'd still be in the bottom one. :laughing:

 

 

the rANGERS could romp the Third Division and still end up in the bottom tier next season if a plan to

reconstruct the Scottish game is given the go-ahead.

 

SFL chief David Longmuir last night spoke to Record Sport as he attempts to broker agreement to do away with the current set-up and start again with a new three league 12-12-18 structure.

 

The deal would see the SPL and SFL merge into one body with Longmuir

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This would ne nice

 

The new league system being proposed has a nice sweetener. Yes they would still technically be "up a division" since there would only be 3 divisions but they'd still be in the bottom one. :laughing:

 

 

the rANGERS could romp the Third Division and still end up in the bottom tier next season if a plan to

reconstruct the Scottish game is given the go-ahead.

 

SFL chief David Longmuir last night spoke to Record Sport as he attempts to broker agreement to do away with the current set-up and start again with a new three league 12-12-18 structure.

 

The deal would see the SPL and SFL merge into one body with Longmuir’s clubs sharing around £1million in extra TV revenue.

 

And he confirmed this could happen at the start of next season – meaning Ally McCoist’s side starting out at the bottom all over again – even if they wrap up this season’s title.

 

But Longmuir explained: “This isn’t about one club. This is about what is best for all of Scottish football.

 

“People are getting ahead of themselves a little bit because no decisions have been taken with regards to how the new leagues would be made up.

 

“But if you look at the league tables as they stand today it doesn’t take much imagination to work out how to make it happen.

 

“Yes, that might be disappointing for some clubs in the Second and Third divisions if it was to work out that way but then we are talking about the long-term good of the game here.

 

“If change is going to happen then inevitably there would have to be one season when adjustments would have to be made. That adjustment has to come at some stage.”

 

Longmuir had previously pushed for a far more radical shake-up that would have created a 16-10-16 set-up.

 

But the SPL clubs are refusing to go along with his vision along with some clubs from the First Division and so a compromise solution is now being thrashed out.

 

And Longmuir – likely to land a key role in any future new governing body – said: “I’ve made my own views known and I always backed a structure of 16-10-16.

 

“But people can get very hung up on the structures and the numbers.

 

“What we have to do is find a way of moving the game in this country forward – how to make the wealth more evenly distributed and how to make the game better for everybody.”

 

Will never happen, not least of all coz the Rangers won't like it, but also because ye canna suddenly change the promotion criteria mid-way thru a season.

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Will never happen, not least of all coz the Rangers won't like it, but also because ye canna suddenly change the promotion criteria mid-way thru a season.

 

If they restructure then there simply wont be any promotion happening for div 3.

 

The leagues should be simply drawn out based on where teams finish. It should be that simple.

 

However I can see The Rangers challenging it so maybe the simple solution is to delay the change to the new structure by a year?

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If they restructure then there simply wont be any promotion happening for div 3.

 

The leagues should be simply drawn out based on where teams finish. It should be that simple.

 

However I can see The Rangers challenging it so maybe the simple solution is to delay the change to the new structure by a year?

 

 

What would be the point in that? :dontknow:

 

They'd still be in the 2nd tier the season after next if they either won promotion in the new set up or got promoted out of the 2nd Division in the old set up.

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The key point is that at the end of the season 2012/13 Sevco will sit at place 33 in scottish football assuming Ally doesn't fuck up a 15 point lead which would be unheard of, at least for sevco although followers may want to check out his previous employers.

 

At no point does that equate with the top 24.

 

At the end of 13/14 with the transfer window reopened to them and with Messi and Iniesta undoubtedly signed it's a fair bet they will be at the top of the 2nd, i.e. in 23rd place and so perfectly entitled, on merit, to enter the new proposed SPL2.

 

Any diversion away from this will require some explanation that I'm not seeing any real appetite to give at the moment

 

I meant to add (and this is only partly a sevco comment so wrong thread really). Sevco progressing from the proposed SPL2 upwards, by winning the majority of their games in that middle 8 split would, I believe, mask what would ordinarily be expected - that the bottom 4 SPL teams with their bigger squads and resources would still be favourites to come through that middle 8 split over 14 games, as opposed to a high pressure 2 tie play off? I still firmly believe that this is the incentive to the bigger teams to support the split even if, regrettably, sevco would benefit marginally.

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What kind of voting numbers will this require to go through from SFL clubs? Imagine half the third division would be unhappy if their league is made pointless mid season and none of the teams who had promotion hopes will have anything to play for rest of season.

 

Imagine similar at top of division 2 where teams near top challenging for promotion face getting punted into bottom tier if they don't get promoted.

 

In division 1 what happens to side who gets "relegated"? Do they stay in second tier or do they get bumped right to bottom tier?

 

Longmuir stresses no decisions been made on how initial set up be decided but how could they possibly push this idea on for next season with four months of this season left with clubs no idea how goalposts being moved?

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What kind of voting numbers will this require to go through from SFL clubs? Imagine half the third division would be unhappy if their league is made pointless mid season and none of the teams who had promotion hopes will have anything to play for rest of season.

 

Imagine similar at top of division 2 where teams near top challenging for promotion face getting punted into bottom tier if they don't get promoted.

 

In division 1 what happens to side who gets "relegated"? Do they stay in second tier or do they get bumped right to bottom tier?

 

Longmuir stresses no decisions been made on how initial set up be decided but how could they possibly push this idea on for next season with four months of this season left with clubs no idea how goalposts being moved?

 

The likes of Elgin would welcome the chance to sell 100,000 tickets for games against the Rangers for one more season.

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Good comment found on The Scotsman today.

 

Surely if the rangers are the same club as dead rangers they would have had a points deduction at the beginning of the season for remaining in administration? :dontknow:

 

If they were the same club they would still be in the SPL. :clangers2:

 

If they were the same club they'd still be due tens of millions to creditors. :clangers2:

 

If they were the same club players wouldn't have had to TUPE to an entirely new company. :clangers2:

 

If they were the same club they'd have been playing in Europe this season. :clangers2:

 

If they were the same club they wouldn't have existed at the same time as the oldco in liquidation did. :clangers2:

 

etc etc

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If their not the same club then why aren't they allowed to sign new players?

 

It's fairly obvious all the discrepancies are because they shouldn't be in existence. Rangers should be dead, third Lanark esque.

 

The discrepancies occur because scottish football manufactured a position for rangers as they were to big to go under - in their eyes.

 

What's changed really? They went to the bottom league and shedded 17m odd debts. I still lord it over all the Huns I know and constantly tell them they have no history. Whether I believe it or not it's the best wind up ammunition since i71

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Rangers should quit Scotland

 

 

 

Ignoring the fact that he missed out the 'the' of the rangers. HALLAY-FECKING-LULAH.

 

Sadly it's never going to happen, but I do take great pleasure in the amount of toys the rangers throw out of their pish stained pram :lolrangers:

 

 

I liked this comment

 

“In what league do you win a division and then end up playing the same teams again the following season? There is no meaning to it, in reality.

 

so there we have it there is no meaning to the SPL the EPL the ligue 1 the bundersliga la liga and so on - so no pointy in moving to them then

 

cos Im pretty damn sure that Man city apart from two or 3 teams are playing exactly the same teams as last year as are Barcelona as are celtic, in fact in an 18 team league he would play more different teams next year than man city have in the last two seasons

 

really is a total muppet

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