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#151 ONLINE   RAZOR

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Posted 17 March 2018 - 06:31 AM

I'd have loved this to be in Edinburgh. Pity.
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 09:19 AM

I'd have loved this to be in Edinburgh. Pity.


There'd be even more empty seats at Murrayfield.

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Posted 17 March 2018 - 09:22 AM

Cup Semis are played at the National Stadium

Deal with it
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 09:41 AM

Cup Semis are played at the National Stadium

Deal with it


You just roll over and let them tickle your belly .
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 10:47 AM

Cup Semis are played at the National Stadium

Deal with it

 

That's only in the last 15-20 years though MT.

They must have changed the rules to hold the games at Hampden, they can change them again.

It doesn't do the credibility of the competition any good when 2/3rds of the stadium is empty.

Easter Road of Tynecastle would have been a better venue.


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 06:21 PM

still to be convinced on nwakali starting for the semi final. need him to get more game time in the three remaining games
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 06:21 PM

in fact get him playing for the u20s too
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 06:38 PM

still to be convinced on nwakali starting for the semi final. need him to get more game time in the three remaining games


He was decent enough today I thought? Him and Ball seem solid enough to play, neither have played badly lately, maybe not spectacular, but they’ll do the job I think
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 07:03 PM

Playing the semis at Hampden defeats of the big day out for the final.
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 07:20 PM

Not convinced that semis need to even be at a neutral venue. Would it be the worst thing if the draw just decided on a home team like all the previous rounds? I guess a few bucks would be lost, especially if an Old Firm team get an away draw but they could just rig the draw so the Old Firm get a home draw or if they are both in the semis then they can play each other. I guess they wouldn't even need to change anything then M I RITE?


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 07:26 PM

Cup Semis are played at the National Stadium

Deal with it

 

 

For no real reason


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 07:33 PM

 
 
For no real reason


To make money for authorities and to justify having a huge stadium that hardly gets used.
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 07:41 PM

 
 
For no real reason


Are Scotland only country to do it?
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 07:42 PM

To make money for authorities and to justify having a huge stadium that hardly gets used.


Pathetic

Wonder if any other country has folk questioning the reasoning for a national stadium

Cringe
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 07:53 PM

Pathetic
Wonder if any other country has folk questioning the reasoning for a national stadium
Cringe


You ateending Millerman?
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 07:55 PM

Are Scotland only country to do it?

 

England too 

 

Most nations don't have a national stadium, its a strange anachronism of the Uk really.


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 08:30 PM

But it's the "heart and soul of Scottish Football".........
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 08:35 PM

Pathetic

Wonder if any other country has folk questioning the reasoning for a national stadium

Cringe


Yup, England regularly debate it.
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 09:05 PM

Is anyone else slightly concerned that our makeshift team for this such as Ball at RB isn't going to get minutes until the day? Today would have been a perfect opportunity to start at least practicing the formation given Dundee offered jack shit?
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 09:14 PM

Nwakali was the first bit of that.

Arnason/Ball will surely get minutes over the next three games. Even potentially Reynolds coming in from the cold
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 09:28 PM

A fine opportunity to give him the full 90 today. No need to take off at all
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 09:36 PM

You ateending Millerman?


Need to check I've not got a squash game mate
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 10:22 PM

Are Scotland only country to do it?

I decided to waste 15 minutes finding out (and another 15 writing all this).

Countries that have a national stadium, and also a national cup:-

Dont play semi-finals at a neutral venue, instead the team drawn first is at home

Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Georgia, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Netherlands, Norway, Russia, Sweden, Switzerland*

*Some suggestion that in Switzerland the home club has to give 50% of the tickets to the away club, but I couldn't verify that and wasn't arsed enough to check it.

Play semi-finals over two legs

Bulgaria, Cyprus, Faroe Islands, Greece, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Turkey

Play semis at a neutral venue, but not necessarily the national stadium.

Northern Ireland, Ukraine

These two appear to actually use their heads and pick a venue that suits the two clubs.

Play all semis at the national stadium even if it means they're a fucking laughing stock

England, Scotland

England only started doing it after they built the new Wembley. Before that the tradition was to play all semis at truly neutral venues. Edinburgh even hosted an FA Cup semi-final once. But now they are going to play Tottenham's semi at Wembley, even though it's been their home stadium all season, because they can't bear play it anywhere else.

In Scotland, it wasn't always Hampden, though generally it was Glasgow. Usually both semis were played on the same day at 3pm on a Saturday so of course had to be different stadiums. Often one semi was at Hampden and the other at Celtic Park. Though quite often they used common sense and used Tynecastle, Dens Park etc, usually when Aberdeen were playing someone other than the Old Firm. In fact in 84, 85, 86, 88, 90 and 93 - six Scottish Cup semi-finals in a row - Aberdeen played them all either at Tynecastle or Dens Park. They played St Mirren in 1982 at Celtic Park (which actually drew a bigger crowd than Rangers v Forfar at Hampden) and the replay was at Dens, but they made Forfar travel to Hampden again in midweek for their replay with Rangers so it wasn't always sensible thinking.

1994 was the first time (in recent memory anyway) that the SFA decided the semis would be at Hampden, which led to Aberdeen and Dundee United playing at Hampden not once, but twice when they sent us back down for a replay in front of just under 14,000.

They moved again when Celtic used Hampden as a home ground for a season, so Celtic/Hibs was at Ibrox, but they kept the final at Hampden, and then moved them again when Hampden was being redeveloped (They tossed a coin to determine Celtic would be at home to Rangers in 98), and in 1999 they wanted the new Hampden just for the final so played the semis at Ibrox and Celtic Park.

Only after that did Hampden then get kept for every semi, even though the lunchtime kick-offs made them even less appealing than before.

So there you have it. It's not a normal thing or even tradition, and the SFA should absolutely rethink it. But they're based at Hampden and means they don't have to travel anywhere, and they clearly do not give a fuck about the fans.

Aberdeen led the fight to get a 50/50 split at cup finals. They should lead the fight on this one.

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Posted 17 March 2018 - 10:48 PM

Aberdeen led the fight to get a 50/50 split at cup finals. They should lead the fight on this one.


Who led the fight? Milne or any current lickspittle?
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 11:04 PM

Does TV have anything to do with it? Like Sky are showing both semis I think (with BBC showing our one as well) so do Sky get to say 'aye, we're not setting up twice in 2 days in 2 different locations when you said they'd both be at the same place'. I'm not defending it if that is the case (the opposite if anything), I just wonder if Sky money is the reason that common sense is apparently disregarded on this and we are going to have a semi final played in front of a less than half full stadium.


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 11:06 PM

Who led the fight? Milne or any current lickspittle?


Not sure. The club appealed, and then the fans group at the time launched a legal bid which the club "supported" but pretty sure it fell apart when the club didn't offer to help fund the legal costs. I remember the whole thing even making it onto the TV programme Watchdog. I don't think the appetite from the club was there to actually block the cup final going ahead (even though it'd have been epic if they had).

https://www.google.c...ts-1-461923/amp

After the final, the club helped push 50/50 splits in future and Hibs then benefitted in the 2001 final, but I don't know who at the club was the driver behind that.

But the club and support at least showed some balls then and got things changed. They released a statement last year criticising the Morton semi being at lunchtime and at Hampden, which clearly had zero effect. They need to actually raise the issue with the SFA and say that if they reach future semis then alternative venues should be considered. Maybe they'll get a fairer hearing when the new chief executive is appointed, the likes of McRae and the other idiot whose name escapes me don't know what day it is half the time.
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 11:10 PM

Does TV have anything to do with it? Like Sky are showing both semis I think (with BBC showing our one as well) so do Sky get to say 'aye, we're not setting up twice in 2 days in 2 different locations when you said they'd both be at the same place'. I'm not defending it if that is the case (the opposite if anything), I just wonder if Sky money is the reason that common sense is apparently disregarded on this and we are going to have a semi final played in front of a less than half full stadium.


I wouldn't think so seeing that Sky usually show two ties from each round so are having to set up at different stadiums.

However, Hampden is better from a media point of view than other other stadium due to the facilities there, and the fact the SFA are based there means they have as much access as they like, so there's no doubt that it's less hassle for them to host it there which is why they do and because no-one challenges it they get away with it.
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 11:17 PM

I wouldn't think so seeing that Sky usually show two ties from each round so are having to set up at different stadiums.

 

Well, they definitely have the resources to do it, I'm not doubting that. I just wonder if even still being able to set up once rather than twice is something they'd prefer to do to the point of insisting on it. This isn't something that only becomes possible once we get to the semis and neutral grounds are used.


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Posted 17 March 2018 - 11:45 PM

Pathetic

Wonder if any other country has folk questioning the reasoning for a national stadium

Cringe


I shouldn't bother, but...why is it a pathetic cringe to ask "Do we need a national stadium?"
Not that I did in my post either.
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Posted 18 March 2018 - 12:37 AM

Some fine research Panda loon. Dont forget the Hillsborough impact in Guffland also.
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