Some of your points about McInnes are valid enough. He has made us more professional in how we operate as a club but you're right he's certainly no messiah. He has his faults and is far from perfect but no manager is at our level is that's why they are here. Every manager has a shelf life at a club and it could well be that McInnes is reaching that point here. But to compare him to Levein and say that CL is somehow perfect for Hearts? Come on behave yourself they have had better managers than CL over the last 20 odd years ones that have won trophies and split the old firm.
Levein has never won anything as a manager or a player. He's managed Hearts for over 5 full seasons now in his two stints and his record (2x 3rd place finishes, 2x 5th place finishes and a 6th place finish) whilst decent and relatively consistent is nothing to get excited about. For someone who, as you put it, creates a team with a siege mentality and balls his record as Hearts manager against the old firm makes for pretty grim reading. He has a sole away victory at Ibrox and has never triumphed at Parkhead. And his Hearts sides have been on the end of many hammerings from both of the ugly sisters. As Hearts manager he has twice been emphatically knocked out of the Scottish Cup by lower league opposition (3-1 at home to ICT and 4-0 away to Falkirk). He was also in the Hearts dugout when they lost 6-1 at Motherwell and 6-2 at Hibs. Also knocked out of the League Cup by lower league opposition (Ross County). In all his time at Hearts to date the best he has done in either of the domestic cups is one League Cup semi-final defeat. He has never taken them to a Scottish Cup semi-final. McInnes would have been absolutely hammered by AFC fans if his cup record was as poor as Levein's. Thankfully it isn't. Calderwood lost his job despite having a better overall cup record than Levein has at Hearts. CL record at Hearts doesn't particularly strike me as one of someone who "gets the job done" at this level as you have suggested. Even at Dundee United the highest he finished was 5th (he never finished above AFC as United manager).
Hearts do look like they will be a handful this season and are (as you'd expect from a CL team) physical. But let's see where they are in the league with 10 games to go when it truly matters. They have certainly carried a bit of luck to date with a couple of dubious red card decisions going in their favour and playing a much weakened Celtic team at home who had their eye on a far bigger game 3 days later. But to be fair to them they have easily the player of the season so far in their ranks (Naismith).
If Hearts are still up there in the mix with 10 games to go then I'll give Levein all the credit in the world. But until then for me he remains a manager with just as many questions over him as any other manager in our league. By late last season many Hearts fans wanted him gone.
CL & his style of football & whole mentality & approach to the game IS perfectly suited to 'the hearts way'
He manages games the way he played it.
I would never want him near Aberdeen but he gets the job done at this level & is easily equally as good if not better than McInnes will ever be. I would even go as far as to say that had he had the fortunate circumstances that McInnes found himself in during his tenure with us. He would have done far better than McInnes has. He would have certainly given Celtic a bigger scare than McInnes ever has both in the league & the cups.
My main point is that McInnes is basically a fraud on the tactical/game day side of things. Yes he's done some great things at our club off the field but he is a pretty shite football game day manager & THAT is where it REALLY matters at the end of the day.
He does speak well in the media though
Edit & it's slightly unfair on CL to judge him on last season/Cathryn team & resultant mass changes last Jan. This season is a fairer reflection on him as this is HIS team now.
Also, we can judge CL on his (as McInnes ridiculed) 'scatter gun' approach to signings this season also but CL himself said last season that he needed to make MASSIVE changes to his squad.
McInnes has had FIVE years to tweak & perfect HIS squad with 'PRECISION' signings as opposed to 'scattered' approach. Most of McInnes's best players during his time have been signed by others/already at club, with a few exceptions that you SHOULD expect to see in TEN transfer windows.
CL has a whole new team to sort out & hard to argue that he hasn't made a decent start of it
Edited by fine-n-dandy, 16 September 2018 - 06:52 PM.