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#361 OFFLINE   Tord31

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Posted 16 September 2018 - 09:00 AM

It is very strange, not sure why gleeson keeps getting taken off as he seems OK to me but is he any better than ball?

I really hope come end of season someone is quoting me about this, to mock me, but forrester looks absolutely shite.


Called it immediately upon seeing him. I didnt see how he would fit into a DM team as regardless of whether he is any good or not he cant seem to get around the pitch.
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 09:15 AM

Aye ^ Lowe looked very good going forward with McGinn; also a decent knack of closing down folk rapidly and giving them fuck all time on the ball (his booking was the one time he mistimed things).

 

By fuck we are missing a no 10 badly though.

 You're not jumping on Lowe's bandwagon, are you?  :crossfingers:


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Posted 16 September 2018 - 09:16 AM

Why oh why oh why can't Anderson get a start?


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Posted 16 September 2018 - 09:25 AM

McInnes has had the easiest run of seasons any Aberdeen manager could have wished for during his tenure.
Credit to him for basically achieving what you would expect in that time in the league but he has been far from any kind of messiah.
If it wasn't for Hearts failed experiment in Cathro & Huns joke Pedro & Hibs delayed climb back up, not to mention Utd's complete disappearance. McInnes would have had a much tougher challenge for second long before he did. Levein may be a basic old school physical based manager but he gets the job done at this level even if it's not pretty.
I would never want Levein at Aberdeen but he gets the job done at this level & at least he gets fight/balls/backbone & a siege type mentality from his players Even if it's not pretty. Hearts should have appointed him as manager long before they did. He is PERFECTLY suited for them.

McInnes is a fkn fraud & I will never stop repeating this until the fkr is gone.
My biggest gripe with him this season though is his use (or lack of use) of Anderson when May has been so fkn poor. He is stubbornly ( as fkn usual) trying to justify the May signing by playing him even when shite. Just fkn admit May has been a failed shot in the dark & waste of money & fkn work with Anderson. A player FAR more deserving of a start this season than ANY of our strikers.

McInnes does speak well in the media though ;)


Some of your points about McInnes are valid enough. He has made us more professional in how we operate as a club but you're right he's certainly no messiah. He has his faults and is far from perfect but no manager is at our level is that's why they are here. Every manager has a shelf life at a club and it could well be that McInnes is reaching that point here. But to compare him to Levein and say that CL is somehow perfect for Hearts? Come on behave yourself they have had better managers than CL over the last 20 odd years ones that have won trophies and split the old firm.

Levein has never won anything as a manager or a player. He's managed Hearts for over 5 full seasons now in his two stints and his record (2x 3rd place finishes, 2x 5th place finishes and a 6th place finish) whilst decent and relatively consistent is nothing to get excited about. For someone who, as you put it, creates a team with a siege mentality and balls his record as Hearts manager against the old firm makes for pretty grim reading. He has a sole away victory at Ibrox and has never triumphed at Parkhead. And his Hearts sides have been on the end of many hammerings from both of the ugly sisters. As Hearts manager he has twice been emphatically knocked out of the Scottish Cup by lower league opposition (3-1 at home to ICT and 4-0 away to Falkirk). He was also in the Hearts dugout when they lost 6-1 at Motherwell and 6-2 at Hibs. Also knocked out of the League Cup by lower league opposition (Ross County). In all his time at Hearts to date the best he has done in either of the domestic cups is one League Cup semi-final defeat. He has never taken them to a Scottish Cup semi-final. McInnes would have been absolutely hammered by AFC fans if his cup record was as poor as Levein's. Thankfully it isn't. Calderwood lost his job despite having a better overall cup record than Levein has at Hearts. CL record at Hearts doesn't particularly strike me as one of someone who "gets the job done" at this level as you have suggested. Even at Dundee United the highest he finished was 5th (he never finished above AFC as United manager).

Hearts do look like they will be a handful this season and are (as you'd expect from a CL team) physical. But let's see where they are in the league with 10 games to go when it truly matters. They have certainly carried a bit of luck to date with a couple of dubious red card decisions going in their favour and playing a much weakened Celtic team at home who had their eye on a far bigger game 3 days later. But to be fair to them they have easily the player of the season so far in their ranks (Naismith).

If Hearts are still up there in the mix with 10 games to go then I'll give Levein all the credit in the world. But until then for me he remains a manager with just as many questions over him as any other manager in our league. By late last season many Hearts fans wanted him gone.
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 10:07 AM

Watched game on BBC Alba. 1st half was abysmal nothing more to say. 2nd half was huge improvement. GMS and McGinn got more involved. Cosgrove did well when he came on too. Holds the ball up well but that’s about it. I see what people mean about Gleeson. He’s a decent player always finding his pass. He just doesn’t have that drive to close opponents down quickly or create quick breaks which is why he got hooked for Ball who can make yards with the ball. No doubt scoring goals is a big problem. DM has to find a system that works fast and take adavantage of all the set piece opportunities we’ve had a date. Several corners but no goals. On a bright note I think the boy Lowe at left back looks decent. Next home match is a must win.


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Posted 16 September 2018 - 10:09 AM

Some of your points about McInnes are valid enough. He has made us more professional in how we operate as a club but you're right he's certainly no messiah. He has his faults and is far from perfect but no manager is at our level is that's why they are here. Every manager has a shelf life at a club and it could well be that McInnes is reaching that point here. But to compare him to Levein and say that CL is somehow perfect for Hearts? Come on behave yourself they have had better managers than CL over the last 20 odd years ones that have won trophies and split the old firm.

Levein has never won anything as a manager or a player. He's managed Hearts for over 5 full seasons now in his two stints and his record (2x 3rd place finishes, 2x 5th place finishes and a 6th place finish) whilst decent and relatively consistent is nothing to get excited about. For someone who, as you put it, creates a team with a siege mentality and balls his record as Hearts manager against the old firm makes for pretty grim reading. He has a sole away victory at Ibrox and has never triumphed at Parkhead. And his Hearts sides have been on the end of many hammerings from both of the ugly sisters. As Hearts manager he has twice been emphatically knocked out of the Scottish Cup by lower league opposition (3-1 at home to ICT and 4-0 away to Falkirk). He was also in the Hearts dugout when they lost 6-1 at Motherwell and 6-2 at Hibs. Also knocked out of the League Cup by lower league opposition (Ross County). In all his time at Hearts to date the best he has done in either of the domestic cups is one League Cup semi-final defeat. He has never taken them to a Scottish Cup semi-final. McInnes would have been absolutely hammered by AFC fans if his cup record was as poor as Levein's. Thankfully it isn't. Calderwood lost his job despite having a better overall cup record than Levein has at Hearts. CL record at Hearts doesn't particularly strike me as one of someone who "gets the job done" at this level as you have suggested. Even at Dundee United the highest he finished was 5th (he never finished above AFC as United manager).

Hearts do look like they will be a handful this season and are (as you'd expect from a CL team) physical. But let's see where they are in the league with 10 games to go when it truly matters. They have certainly carried a bit of luck to date with a couple of dubious red card decisions going in their favour and playing a much weakened Celtic team at home who had their eye on a far bigger game 3 days later. But to be fair to them they have easily the player of the season so far in their ranks (Naismith).

If Hearts are still up there in the mix with 10 games to go then I'll give Levein all the credit in the world. But until then for me he remains a manager with just as many questions over him as any other manager in our league. By late last season many Hearts fans wanted him gone.


Not sure on your argument tbh. You need to go into more detail.
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 10:14 AM

Why oh why oh why can't Anderson get a start?


I tell you son - if he isn't in for May next week against well, there's something far wrong. Immediately looked sharper, quicker and more footballer-ee than young Steven within seconds.
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 11:08 AM

I tell you son - if he isn't in for May next week against well, there's something far wrong. Immediately looked sharper, quicker and more footballer-ee than young Steven within seconds.

Cosgrove will start next week which is typical Mcinnes


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Posted 16 September 2018 - 11:10 AM

I tell you son - if he isn't in for May next week against well, there's something far wrong. Immediately looked sharper, quicker and more footballer-ee than young Steven within seconds.


That’s May starting next week then
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 11:12 AM

Cosgrove will start next week which is typical Mcinnes


Played the best out our strikers yesterday in all fairness.
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 11:26 AM

Cozzer and Ando both start next week. The perfect combo.
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 11:34 AM

No pie report. Queues were stupid long. I can’t imagine they’d have been better than the ones at Pittodrie anyway. Went into that match assuming we’d win. Stupid me.

 

Steak pie was lovely, worth the wait.


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Posted 16 September 2018 - 12:42 PM

Were they not there last season no?

Come on Cesc, second place last season papered over the cracks, our record against top 6 teams was disgraceful and that includes the result against Celtic in a match that ended up fucking us.


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Posted 16 September 2018 - 12:52 PM

Yeah, second behind a team with 30m is not acceptable


If he was an Aberdonian you’d be screaming for his head
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 01:01 PM

Cozzer and Ando both start next week. The perfect combo.

 

 

May it is then


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Posted 16 September 2018 - 01:54 PM

hun dmc refuses to admit mistakes.
plays that May cunt, looks more suited to playing on a games console and wanking off whilst eating quavers.
cosgrove. collin. tate, daniels, wylde, tansey, the list is long.
nae doubt plenty of you cunts will refuse to see he has done what any half competent manager wouldve done in the circumstances and want the man to plough on



Who would you suggest we replace him with?
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 02:21 PM

Define must win?


Must win = kind of prefer to win but to be honest if we don’t the sky won’t actually fall in on our heads.
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 03:24 PM

Who would you suggest we replace him with?

a manager who isnt scared to stand up to the big clubs.
one who is willing to give youth players a decent chance
one who has fucking balls out instinct
one who is willing to scout in europe for players
one who will drop players if they are off form
one who wont sign washed up crocks
oh and one that isnt a. sleekit rabbid hun bastard

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Posted 16 September 2018 - 03:41 PM

a manager who isnt scared to stand up to the big clubs.
one who is willing to give youth players a decent chance
one who has fucking balls out instinct
one who is willing to scout in europe for players
one who will drop players if they are off form
one who wont sign washed up crocks
oh and one that isnt a. sleekit rabbid hun bastard


I have no idea how you’re even able to entertain answering such stupid fucking questions.
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 04:13 PM

Defence and midfield we'll be ok this season but up front we are woeful. Surely to fuck Anderson has to get a start soon. He's hardly going to contribute less in the way of goals than may and Cosgrove. It's going to be a struggle all season the way it's looking just now.
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 04:25 PM

Defence and midfield we'll be ok this season but up front we are woeful. Surely to fuck Anderson has to get a start soon. He's hardly going to contribute less in the way of goals than may and Cosgrove. It's going to be a struggle all season the way it's looking just now.


Hopefully we finally get Wilson fit and he and Anderson both start banging in the goals for us. If they don't it's going to be a long season.

I'm also hoping that both Wright and Frank Ross properly prove themselves this season and add some much needed creativity in the final third. It would also help if Forrester starts to resemble a footballer. That would really help us right now.
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 04:33 PM

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Posted 16 September 2018 - 05:54 PM

Summary from Sportscene.

1/. Penalty. No question.

2/. Here’s a thought. Why not light the firework suppository that GMS clearly got at half time at 14.59 next week?

3/. Greg Stewart, thru the middle with a licence to shoot. So, not a wing back then...

4/. Brendan Rodgers. Hahahahahahaha
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 06:01 PM

Define must win?


Momentum..................it’s needed.
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 06:33 PM

Some of your points about McInnes are valid enough. He has made us more professional in how we operate as a club but you're right he's certainly no messiah. He has his faults and is far from perfect but no manager is at our level is that's why they are here. Every manager has a shelf life at a club and it could well be that McInnes is reaching that point here. But to compare him to Levein and say that CL is somehow perfect for Hearts? Come on behave yourself they have had better managers than CL over the last 20 odd years ones that have won trophies and split the old firm.
Levein has never won anything as a manager or a player. He's managed Hearts for over 5 full seasons now in his two stints and his record (2x 3rd place finishes, 2x 5th place finishes and a 6th place finish) whilst decent and relatively consistent is nothing to get excited about. For someone who, as you put it, creates a team with a siege mentality and balls his record as Hearts manager against the old firm makes for pretty grim reading. He has a sole away victory at Ibrox and has never triumphed at Parkhead. And his Hearts sides have been on the end of many hammerings from both of the ugly sisters. As Hearts manager he has twice been emphatically knocked out of the Scottish Cup by lower league opposition (3-1 at home to ICT and 4-0 away to Falkirk). He was also in the Hearts dugout when they lost 6-1 at Motherwell and 6-2 at Hibs. Also knocked out of the League Cup by lower league opposition (Ross County). In all his time at Hearts to date the best he has done in either of the domestic cups is one League Cup semi-final defeat. He has never taken them to a Scottish Cup semi-final. McInnes would have been absolutely hammered by AFC fans if his cup record was as poor as Levein's. Thankfully it isn't. Calderwood lost his job despite having a better overall cup record than Levein has at Hearts. CL record at Hearts doesn't particularly strike me as one of someone who "gets the job done" at this level as you have suggested. Even at Dundee United the highest he finished was 5th (he never finished above AFC as United manager).
Hearts do look like they will be a handful this season and are (as you'd expect from a CL team) physical. But let's see where they are in the league with 10 games to go when it truly matters. They have certainly carried a bit of luck to date with a couple of dubious red card decisions going in their favour and playing a much weakened Celtic team at home who had their eye on a far bigger game 3 days later. But to be fair to them they have easily the player of the season so far in their ranks (Naismith).
If Hearts are still up there in the mix with 10 games to go then I'll give Levein all the credit in the world. But until then for me he remains a manager with just as many questions over him as any other manager in our league. By late last season many Hearts fans wanted him gone.

CL & his style of football & whole mentality & approach to the game IS perfectly suited to 'the hearts way'
He manages games the way he played it.
I would never want him near Aberdeen but he gets the job done at this level & is easily equally as good if not better than McInnes will ever be. I would even go as far as to say that had he had the fortunate circumstances that McInnes found himself in during his tenure with us. He would have done far better than McInnes has. He would have certainly given Celtic a bigger scare than McInnes ever has both in the league & the cups.

My main point is that McInnes is basically a fraud on the tactical/game day side of things. Yes he's done some great things at our club off the field but he is a pretty shite football game day manager & THAT is where it REALLY matters at the end of the day.

He does speak well in the media though

Edit & it's slightly unfair on CL to judge him on last season/Cathryn team & resultant mass changes last Jan. This season is a fairer reflection on him as this is HIS team now.

Also, we can judge CL on his (as McInnes ridiculed) 'scatter gun' approach to signings this season also but CL himself said last season that he needed to make MASSIVE changes to his squad.
McInnes has had FIVE years to tweak & perfect HIS squad with 'PRECISION' signings as opposed to 'scattered' approach. Most of McInnes's best players during his time have been signed by others/already at club, with a few exceptions that you SHOULD expect to see in TEN transfer windows.

CL has a whole new team to sort out & hard to argue that he hasn't made a decent start of it

Edited by fine-n-dandy, 16 September 2018 - 06:52 PM.

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Posted 16 September 2018 - 06:59 PM

CL & his style of football & whole mentality & approach to the game IS perfectly suited to 'the hearts way'
He manages games the way he played it.
I would never want him near Aberdeen but he gets the job done at this level & is easily equally as good if not better than McInnes will ever be. I would even go as far as to say that had he had the fortunate circumstances that McInnes found himself in during his tenure with us. He would have done far better than McInnes has. He would have certainly given Celtic a bigger scare than McInnes ever has both in the league & the cups.

My main point is that McInnes is basically a fraud on the tactical/game day side of things. Yes he's done some great things at our club off the field but he is a pretty shite football game day manager & THAT is where it REALLY matters at the end of the day.

He does speak well in the media though

Edit & it's slightly unfair on CL to judge him on last season/Cathryn team & resultant mass changes last Jan. This season is a fairer reflection on him as this is HIS team now.


It's easy to say CL would have done this or that. The bottom line is that he hasn't done anything good enough to win a club he has been at any silverware and he has had plenty of chances he's not exactly new to management.

As for last season? I think it was fairly common knowledge that in his role as DOF Levein identified and signed the players whereas Cathro's job was to coach them. So technically it was Levein's team last season he just didn't have a pre season with them as their actual manager.

Just for the record what exactly is it that Levein has achieved in his managerial career to date that makes you say he "gets the job done at this level?" What has he done in your eyes that makes him stand out enough from the others for you to say that? It's a bit rich to say Levein would have given Celtic a better run in the cups had he been in McInnes' shoes these past few seasons considering Levein's very poor cup record as a manager that I have already highlighted (knocked out of the cups by three lower league clubs as Hearts manager).

He has made a very good start this season I'll give him that. It's still very early days though.
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 07:41 PM

Don't think this team is capable of winning against hearts Celtic Rangers hibs Motherwell after watching last weeks performance and yesterday's against st Johnston. January's signings will all come from the accident and emergency wards at various hospitals all over the uk.
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 07:50 PM

This is going to be a problem all season.
Would not surprise me if have almost as much draws as wins this season.


I agree but with the players we have there's no good reason to have this problem.

Our strikers may be struggling but guys like Anderson, McGinn, GMS should be able to score and create simple chances.

Tactics and attitude are a problem imo.
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 08:00 PM

The league is boring, we will finish, at best, 5th, and at worst 6th. We are shite to watch.
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Posted 16 September 2018 - 08:02 PM

Our strikers may be struggling but guys like Anderson, McGinn, GMS should be able to score and create simple chances.


You can't expect the midfielders to bail the team out every week. I'm aware you mentioned Anderson but the same goes for subs. We have a glaring problem up front and it needs addressed.
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