New Stadium Approved

[BWG]

Affa rattled this morning hun.

[Reliablesource]

Just kent you were going to say Atalanta.

 

They hadnt started any work on their stadium

 

It has no seats and is basically bleachers fucking idiot so please try link that to Pittodrie again

 

 

What a heap of shite that post was

Really, why do you even bother posting?

 

For your info, everything I wrote is 100% accurate. If "heap of shite" means you don't like the post then I'm glad, it did it's job, that was the point. From what I can see, what you post is utterly pointless.

 

Atalanta is just one of many clubs recently refused a safety certificate to play in European competitions at their home. Although it's good enough for the Italian FA. Every club that is refused a certificate is generally refused on different grounds. So.....what's your point? Do you even have one?

[ABZ RED]

Really, why do you even bother posting?

For your info, everything I wrote is 100% accurate. If "heap of shite" means you don't like the post then I'm glad, it did it's job, that was the point. From what I can see, what you post is utterly pointless.

Atalanta is just one of many clubs recently refused a safety certificate to play in European competitions at their home. Although it's good enough for the Italian FA. Every club that is refused a certificate is generally refused on different grounds. So.....what's your point? Do you even have one?

I said who with a 4 sided all seated football stadium is getting a licence refused and you posted roofless Italian bleachers with no seats, then continually refer to unknown other clubs refused a certificate as if they’re also comparable. As I said, nobody with a stadium comparable to ours gets a licence refused. There is nothing coming out of Uefa suggesting this.

 

With our current facilities, there is no danger. If we were rebuilding during the month we’re in Europe, we’d have to play elsewhere. If the main stand had a safety certificate refused, we are decades away from the entire building being shut down, rather than only the capacity reduced, then we’d have to play elsewhere.

 

Just stating facts instead of brainwashed bedwetting.

[Nelly]

I said who with a 4 sided all seated football stadium is getting a licence refused and you posted roofless Italian bleachers with no seats, then continually refer to unknown other clubs refused a certificate as if they’re also comparable. As I said, nobody with a stadium comparable to ours gets a licence refused. There is nothing coming out of Uefa suggesting this.

 

With our current facilities, there is no danger. If we were rebuilding during the month we’re in Europe, we’d have to play elsewhere. If the main stand had a safety certificate refused, we are decades away from the entire building being shut down, rather than only the capacity reduced, then we’d have to play elsewhere.

 

Just stating facts instead of brainwashed bedwetting.

 

ok, they stretched the truth a wee bit to get the new stadium approved. Happens all the time in politics; scaremongering, doomsday scenarios etc. You're just going to have to accept it and move on.

[Donstar83]

You're just going to have to accept it and move on.

That would be nice.

[Betty Swallicks]

Hardly. I was looking to place. £2 bet on us finishing outside the top three @500/1 as a consolation prize for me if it happens.

What was the other bet the I wanted to place with me WANTING Aberdeen to fail?

 

The current price is 1/500 you gleck!

[SheepieBaaBaa]

 

The current price is 1/500 you gleck!

 

I don't think he knows what a reciprocal relationship is.....probably think's it's something to do with a reach around.....which in a non arithmetical sense, it is.

[Andy_123]

I said who with a 4 sided all seated football stadium is getting a licence refused and you posted roofless Italian bleachers with no seats, then continually refer to unknown other clubs refused a certificate as if they’re also comparable. As I said, nobody with a stadium comparable to ours gets a licence refused. There is nothing coming out of Uefa suggesting this.

 

With our current facilities, there is no danger. If we were rebuilding during the month we’re in Europe, we’d have to play elsewhere. If the main stand had a safety certificate refused, we are decades away from the entire building being shut down, rather than only the capacity reduced, then we’d have to play elsewhere.

 

Just stating facts instead of brainwashed bedwetting.

 

Would we be able to continue using the main stand for the players changing rooms, corporate facilities, the managers office etc if it was refused a certificate? I've no idea if not getting a safety certificate only means people can't sit in the stands, but if not we'd be completely fucked, not just a slight reduction in spectator capacity.

[Reliablesource]

I said who with a 4 sided all seated football stadium is getting a licence refused and you posted roofless Italian bleachers with no seats, then continually refer to unknown other clubs refused a certificate as if theyre also comparable. As I said, nobody with a stadium comparable to ours gets a licence refused. There is nothing coming out of Uefa suggesting this.

 

With our current facilities, there is no danger. If we were rebuilding during the month were in Europe, wed have to play elsewhere. If the main stand had a safety certificate refused, we are decades away from the entire building being shut down, rather than only the capacity reduced, then wed have to play elsewhere.

 

Just stating facts instead of brainwashed bedwetting.

I don't know what the fuck you asked. What makes you think that I was answering any of your nonsensical rants?

 

The way I see it you've still got 2 options, you can point out a factual inaccuracy (or lie) in my original post or you can curl up and die....just pick one and run with it. If you don't and you come back with another nonsensical rant, I'll take it you plan on the latter, which will be better for all concerned.

 

What I stated was fact as I understand it. What you have just offered up is basically "it's never going to happen cause I don't think it will". I'm sure even someone of your limited intelligence will see that is not a fact.

 

I do have one question though. Who is it that has brainwashed me? As you state. I'm struggling on this as you will understand when I explain that I had knowledge of the stricter regs going back about 6 or 7 years. Did you only know about them when Stewart Milne told you last year?

[Reliablesource]

 

Would we be able to continue using the main stand for the players changing rooms, corporate facilities, the managers office etc if it was refused a certificate? I've no idea if not getting a safety certificate only means people can't sit in the stands, but if not we'd be completely fucked, not just a slight reduction in spectator capacity.

This is one very good question.

 

I think he struggles with actual questions though.

[Panda]

I'm not. Are you heading over? Notice a few have booked a Hungarian League game whilst over there, which I'm sure will be more entertaining.

Aye, I don't usually bother with friendlies but wanted to visit Budapest for ages, and (keeping it on topic with the thread) I want to visit the Groupama Arena.

[Doncomitant]

The current price is 1/500 you gleck!

To finish outside the top three we are as long a price as 1/500? Really?

Do you know the difference between 500/1 & 1/500? Because you are mixing them up

[NEM]

 

The current price is 1/500 you gleck!

 

 

"eh, eh, eh, G3t iT buUilT!!"

[Panda]

 

 

 

 

The plans for the away end are below. I've added the black lines where we could have the segregation for the minimum size of away end, giving them turnstiles, toilets and concessions. Presumably we'd just have a banner over some seats to segregate then a metal barrier in the concourse much like Hearts have in the Roseburn. Note also the police interview room and cells in the north west corner.

 

 

Where did you hear the away fans would be getting that corner? @@Donnet

[Donnet]

Where did you hear the away fans would be getting that corner? @@Donnet

 

That's the end the away stand that was highlighted in the Aurora video. If we don't give every team the whole stand that area I marked is the minimum size we can logistically give away sides (which was the discussion going on at the time). I used the North West corner as I assumed the police interview room and cells were strategically placed off the away end but looking at the plans again that leaves no disabled access for away fans so it might end up they get the South of that West stand.

[redstrummer]

 

That's the end the away stand that was highlighted in the Aurora video. If we don't give every team the whole stand that area I marked is the minimum size we can logistically give away sides (which was the discussion going on at the time). I used the North West corner as I assumed the police interview room and cells were strategically placed off the away end but looking at the plans again that leaves no disabled access for away fans so it might end up they get the South of that West stand.

 

Did they not say all turnstiles would be disabled access .

You also need to look at Male and Female toilets . So you'd need to move your black line down to accommodate that

[RAZOR]

You know it's bad when the away fans have the best view of the pitch. Good start.

[Betty Swallicks]

 

Currently 1/500 to finish in the top 3 so its fairly likely.

 

 

Ok I'll have £2 on it with you that we don't.

 

Just a small consolation for me if we finish fourth this season

 

 

 

With me?

 

 

You give me odds of 500/1 & yes I will risk £2 on that.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not a bookie but if you find one that gives you 500/1 for us to finish top 3 let me know please.

 

 

Hardly. I was looking to place. £2 bet on us finishing outside the top three @500/1 as a consolation prize for me if it happens.

 

 

To finish outside the top three we are as long a price as 1/500? Really?

 

 

[Donnet]

 

Did they not say all turnstiles would be disabled access .

You also need to look at Male and Female toilets . So you'd need to move your black line down to accommodate that

 

The turnstiles might be but there is specifically a disabled access area for viewing the match. I assume away fans will have to have access to this. (There is another disabled access area behind the other goals for home fans)

 

Good point about the male/female toilets. There's actually no way to segregate that stand and have male and female toilets for both sets of fans in the current plans. If the middle toilet block is in fact two separate blocks you could segregate it there. That means the minimum we can give away fans is half of that stand which for most of the teams who visit will be a waste. Don't think the club have thought that through properly...

 

[Betty Swallicks]

Where did you hear the away fans would be getting that corner? @@Donnet

 

 

 

That's the end the away stand that was highlighted in the Aurora video. If we don't give every team the whole stand that area I marked is the minimum size we can logistically give away sides (which was the discussion going on at the time). I used the North West corner as I assumed the police interview room and cells were strategically placed off the away end but looking at the plans again that leaves no disabled access for away fans so it might end up they get the South of that West stand.

 

 

 

Did they not say all turnstiles would be disabled access .

You also need to look at Male and Female toilets . So you'd need to move your black line down to accommodate that

 

 

You know it's bad when the away fans have the best view of the pitch. Good start.

 

 

 

The turnstiles might be but there is specifically a disabled access area for viewing the match. I assume away fans will have to have access to this. (There is another disabled access area behind the other goals for home fans)

 

Good point about the male/female toilets. There's actually no way to segregate that stand and have male and female toilets for both sets of fans in the current plans. If the middle toilet block is in fact two separate blocks you could segregate it there. That means the minimum we can give away fans is half of that stand which for most of the teams who visit will be a waste. Don't think the club have thought that through properly...

 

 

 

[BWG]

It's like the wanks have a fucking rota worked out for posting their shite on here.

[Tommy]

It's like the wanks have a fucking rota worked out for posting their shite on here.

Betty loves some overtime but by fuck, who is this beaut Doncomitant.

[V for Vendetta]

It's like the wanks have a fucking rota worked out for posting their shite on here.

 

Major fishing exercise IMO.

 

Trawling the good people of Afc Chat.

[ABZ RED]

I don't know what the fuck you asked. What makes you think that I was answering any of your nonsensical rants?

 

The way I see it you've still got 2 options, you can point out a factual inaccuracy (or lie) in my original post or you can curl up and die....just pick one and run with it. If you don't and you come back with another nonsensical rant, I'll take it you plan on the latter, which will be better for all concerned.

 

What I stated was fact as I understand it. What you have just offered up is basically "it's never going to happen cause I don't think it will". I'm sure even someone of your limited intelligence will see that is not a fact.

 

I do have one question though. Who is it that has brainwashed me? As you state. I'm struggling on this as you will understand when I explain that I had knowledge of the stricter regs going back about 6 or 7 years. Did you only know about them when Stewart Milne told you last year?

Ok, for ABZ RED and all the other fuckwits that haven't been involved in the countless uefa license/special dispensation discussions or just can't cope with facts.

 

Clubs that have been playing in European competitions PREVIOUS to stricter safety certificates and controls brought in by uefa over the last decade have been given special dispensation over the last few seasons, Aberdeen is one of many.

 

Many clubs 'newer' to these competitions have had certificates refused. The list is growing longer every season with some more notable, like Atalanta last season for example, who contrary to some reports, had not started any work on their stadium (I think I'm right in saying they still haven't done any redevelopment work) and just had a flat NO handed out by uefa when a certificate WAS applied for. There are many more examples.

 

Now granted, uefa haven't actually written any time scales down for ending special dispensation deals but it's commonly believed that push will come to shove sooner or later as the list of clubs having new licenses refused grows longer. It will obviously be harder to grant dispensation on so called 'safety grounds' to a select few, while refusing so many others.

 

'Special dispensation' as it's called, was designed to give current, recent and likely participants a bit of leeway. The new stricter rules wouldn't have been workable otherwise. Make no mistake though, this won't go on forever.

 

While the topic of the safety licence IMO isn't relevant to the new stadium in the present, there is no lie being told here. If you believe that it's a lie that sometime in the near future we will not get a licence to play european games at Pittodrie, you're just a fucking idiot.

First paragraph v first paragraph.

 

Nonsensical rants.

 

Space cadet.

[Guest RosemountRed]

 

The turnstiles might be but there is specifically a disabled access area for viewing the match. I assume away fans will have to have access to this. (There is another disabled access area behind the other goals for home fans)

 

Good point about the male/female toilets. There's actually no way to segregate that stand and have male and female toilets for both sets of fans in the current plans. If the middle toilet block is in fact two separate blocks you could segregate it there. That means the minimum we can give away fans is half of that stand which for most of the teams who visit will be a waste. Don't think the club have thought that through properly...

 

 

Those plans are only provisional, they will now go into detailed design so they will most likely change.

[Panda]

 

The turnstiles might be but there is specifically a disabled access area for viewing the match. I assume away fans will have to have access to this. (There is another disabled access area behind the other goals for home fans)

 

Good point about the male/female toilets. There's actually no way to segregate that stand and have male and female toilets for both sets of fans in the current plans. If the middle toilet block is in fact two separate blocks you could segregate it there. That means the minimum we can give away fans is half of that stand which for most of the teams who visit will be a waste. Don't think the club have thought that through properly...

 

Yeh it's an odd one. They had said the away end would be in blocks of 600, yet the seating of that stand are now different sized blocks, some are bigger than others, so that plan is out the window.

 

If they gave them the corner, I dunno what it holds but it looks like it's somewhere between 900-1000 which seems perfect, and it does have a disabled section (albeit quite small, but it's up near the back on the west stand side of it, and probably no smaller than most teams give). But the corner is actually split into two, half is part of the north stand, and other west, and that's where the access is too. It doesn't appear to have its own turnstiles and, not looked closely enough, toilets.

 

Think it's more likely they are giving away fans the first three blocks of the west stand starting at the main stand side, which incorporates the disabled section down the front. It's just under 1400, which seems a fair enough number. I don't know if that would include male & female toilets on the plans, surely that's not hard to do though.

 

I think the next section then holds around 700 if they wanted to increase it for the Old Firm which gives them pretty much the same numbers as they get now.

 

But it says on the application 3,000 Old Firm fans, which I hope was just a maximum should they get us in the Scottish Cup where they would be entitled to 20% of the tickets, even though 3,000 technically isn't 20% of 20,000.

[ABZ RED]

ok, they stretched the truth a wee bit to get the new stadium approved. Happens all the time in politics; scaremongering, doomsday scenarios etc. You're just going to have to accept it and move on.

Absolutely, I understand that. Youve got people here having meltdowns thinking its all true.

[Guest RosemountRed]

Yeh it's an odd one. They had said the away end would be in blocks of 600, yet the seating of that stand are now different sized blocks, some are bigger than others, so that plan is out the window.

 

If they gave them the corner, I dunno what it holds but it looks like it's somewhere between 900-1000 which seems perfect, and it does have a disabled section (albeit quite small, but it's up near the back on the west stand side of it, and probably no smaller than most teams give). But the corner is actually split into two, half is part of the north stand, and other west, and that's where the access is too. It doesn't appear to have its own turnstiles and, not looked closely enough, toilets.

 

Think it's more likely they are giving away fans the first three blocks of the west stand starting at the main stand side, which incorporates the disabled section down the front. It's just under 1400, which seems a fair enough number. I don't know if that would include male & female toilets on the plans, surely that's not hard to do though.

 

I think the next section then holds around 700 if they wanted to increase it for the Old Firm which gives them pretty much the same numbers as they get now.

 

But it says on the application 3,000 Old Firm fans, which I hope was just a maximum should they get us in the Scottish Cup where they would be entitled to 20% of the tickets, even though 3,000 technically isn't 20% of 20,000.

 

Who gives a fuck what the old firm get, that should be our very last concern.

 

They treat us like shit and we should do the same back.

[Andy_123]

Does the disabled section for away fans have to be in the away end? Or can you get away with 1 disabled section for both sets of fans?

 

Also the toilets can easily be shifted a bit from those plans. As long as there are some, the council / planners won't care about them.

[Guest RosemountRed]

From DST:

 

Government ministers are aiming to come to a decision on the Kingsford Stadium application within the next 3 weeks (within 28 days of the application received on 8th February). We would hope that the Scottish Government will see no reason to question the rigorous process that this application has already been subjected to and that phase 1 (training facilities) can be delivered by the target date of 2019/20 season.