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Henry
Henry

I look forward to similar articles from the Daily Record every weekend when Celtic are playing league games.

donsdaft
donsdaft

Well, this is going to be unpopular, and I admit, it's based on not watching any of it or hearing any of the shite. But well done Celtic, decided the tie early on and didn't humiliate the opposition.

Dom Sullivan
Dom Sullivan

Well done Kari Arneson - fantastic punch clear.   Hartson and Sutton absolutely blubbing over the hand ball.   Waaaaaaa.........   Welcome to crap decisions week in week out which go FOR the Manky M

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So do we want them to get knocked out of Europe or sneak through to maintain the wear and tear on their squad for a few more weeks?

I hope they win. I never want them to progress in the champions league because of the money on offer, but no harm to Scottish football if they get through a few rounds in the Europa League. I still hold out the insane hope that one day our coefficient will improve to the level where we get two Champions League spots (which if we had then the past few years Aberdeen would have been the main beneficiary).

 

Obviously I hope Celtic don't actually win the thing. Little chance of that anyway. I reckon they'll lose 3-0 tonight. Zenit played within themselves last week, they won't be that poor again tonight.

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The Boofon Veteran

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I hope they win. I never want them to progress in the champions league because of the money on offer, but no harm to Scottish football if they get through a few rounds in the Europa League. I still hold out the insane hope that one day our coefficient will improve to the level where we get two Champions League spots (which if we had then the past few years Aberdeen would have been the main beneficiary).

 

Obviously I hope Celtic don't actually win the thing. Little chance of that anyway. I reckon they'll lose 3-0 tonight. Zenit played within themselves last week, they won't be that poor again tonight.

 

 

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strachanmcgheegoal Grand Master

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Not greedy.

 

Extra Time and penalties.

They lose with every celtic penalty taker's bottle spectacularly crashing.

Tiernay to require more dental work.

Dembele to blow his hamstring big style

De Vries to hurt his back helping carry him off

Anyone, just anyone, to wipe that fucking smile off Lustig's pus

 

And finally

 

Scott Brown to get a special St Petersburg welcome off 20 leather jacketed Leningrad ultras.

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The Boofon Veteran

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Well argued, I've changed my opinion completely after reading that.

 

The level of debate on this forum is unrivalled anywhere.

 

 

The co-efficient being higher means fuck all in the grand scheme of things. We need to concentrate on domestic football. Celtic gaining more millions to get us two games less in Europe is utter nonsense.

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V for Vendetta Newbie

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Aye and give them more TV and gate money at the same time.

 

Eejit.

 

Give what they get from CL its a drop in the ocean and doesn't make much difference at this stage imo.

 

If we were in the early qualifiers I'd be happy to see them bomb out on the basis they don't get the millions on offer but this isn't worth as much and I'd laugh to see another CB get injured or Brown tear a hamstring or something while chasing a Europa cup they'll never win anyway - all the better for us,

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Not greedy.

 

Extra Time and penalties.

They lose with every celtic penalty taker's bottle spectacularly crashing.

Tiernay to require more dental work.

Dembele to blow his hamstring big style

De Vries to hurt his back helping carry him off

Anyone, just anyone, to wipe that fucking smile off Lustig's pus

 

And finally

 

Scott Brown to get a special St Petersburg welcome off 20 leather jacketed Leningrad ultras.

 

I'd settle for this.

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Panda Newbie

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The co-efficient being higher means fuck all in the grand scheme of things.

That's not really true is it. If it got to a level where we had more European spots, that would help other clubs (well, or does if they don't then get emptied by a club from Belarus or Luxembourg), and if it got to a level (however unrealistic at the moment) where we had two Champions League spots, that would be huge for Aberdeen. Even if we didn't reach the groups, we get the fall-back of going into the Europa League.

 

Romania, Czech Republic or Greece, relatively small leagues like ourselves who this season had two CL spots. Maybe it didn't do a huge amount for them but they sure as hell wouldn't be keen to give them up.

 

 

We need to concentrate on domestic football. Celtic gaining more millions to get us two games less in Europe is utter nonsense.

The money Celtic make off a few sell-outs in the Europa League is not going to change the outlook of Scottish football.

 

The Champions League money is a different matter which is why I never want them to reach the group stage. But they can do what they like in the Europa League.

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That's not really true is it. If it got to a level where we had more European spots, that would help other clubs (well, or does if they don't then get emptied by a club from Belarus or Luxembourg), and if it got to a level (however unrealistic at the moment) where we had two Champions League spots, that would be huge for Aberdeen. Even if we didn't reach the groups, we get the fall-back of going into the Europa League.

 

Romania, Czech Republic or Greece, relatively small leagues like ourselves who this season had two CL spots. Maybe it didn't do a huge amount for them but they sure as hell wouldn't be keen to give them up.

 

 

The money Celtic make off a few sell-outs in the Europa League is not going to change the outlook of Scottish football.

 

The Champions League money is a different matter which is why I never want them to reach the group stage. But they can do what they like in the Europa League.

 

Let me be the boring fart and put some number to all of this.

 

On the coefficient Scotland are currently ranked 26th on 18.6 points. To get an extra Champions League spot you need to be 15th (and you also get an extra Europa League place so 6 teams in Europe). Currently Greece are 15th on 28.4 points. To put that into context the 10 point difference is the equivalent of Scotland winning 20 extra Group/knockout stages games or 40 extra pre Group stage games between our four countries over a 5-year period.

 

Just to get to enter at a later round you need to be ranked 17th which is currently Denmark on 26 points. So the reality is we are a million miles away from being ranked that high and in reality it will take 2-3 years of at least 2 clubs making CL or EL Group stages and then most likely 1 making it through to knock-out stages. I won't hold my breath.

 

On the money side this year Celtic will get in excess of £12Million in prize money from the CL plus their share of the marketing pool (not sure what that is but last year it was £13Million so no doubt will be at least that this year. So they get £25Million from CL plus gate money from their six games (another £10 Million?) minus expenses like player bonuses, travel costs, home match costs etc. So surely they clear £30Million from CL.

 

From the Europa League if they beat Zenit they get an extra £1Million in prize money pus another home game (depends who they draw but maybe another £2Million gate money). Obviously they get more if they go further but Panda is right that it is a drop in the ocean compared with CL

 

Given all of the above I see virtually no benefit to Aberdeen from Celtic winning tonight. Coefficient points are useless and whilst it is not CL level money fuck it even another £3M to them is enough to stockpile another 3 Jonny Hayes and further weaken competition in Scotland. We ain't catching them in the league so other than hoping for a bunch of injuries tonight I don't see any benefit to Aberdeen from a "tired" Celtic if they go more rounds

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Don Shula Enthusiast

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So what you are saying is, don't try improve then it's too hard work?

 

No what I am saying is I am only interested in what is good for Aberdeen and if I have a choice of Celtic get £3M plus Scotland get 0.5 added to the coefficient or Celtic get fuck all as does the coefficient then my belief is that it is better for Aberdeen that Celtic get knocked out tonight, preferably after extra time and a four-hour flight delay plus a couple of injuries.

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NEM Grand Master

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Pity

 

The fact the most inspirational recent aberdonian player was Russell Anderson speaks volumes

 

A soft spoken, loser weirdo who got rag dolled by the likes of Giorgio fucking samaras

 

Pathetic

 

Aberdeen NEEDS Glasgow

 

 

That'll be the same Aberdeen that's bankrolled your giros for 40 years?

 

"Needs Glasgow"

 

LOL

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V for Vendetta Newbie

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That doesn't make sense

 

Willie Miller, Fergie, even McLeish

 

3 of the biggest icons in history of our club

 

Which part of Aberdeen were they from again?

 

Even Jim Bett, where was he from?

 

Got to agree that Aberdeen's history is full of great players and managers from many places and walks of life.

 

Glasgow being one of those, although not the only one that has contributed.

 

Think of all the players from Holland, England, Ireland, Hungary and so on that have contributed.

 

Great stuff, as Panda says we can't just be parochial about this.

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