For Fecks Sake Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 More leaks from Scotland in union this time to Bella Caledonia http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2017/12/31/scotland-in-union-data-dump/Yawn, change the fucking record! 2 2 Link to comment
mcdougall(4) Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 They still lied though. In what way was it a lie? It's a fairly bland and innocuous statement that doesn't offer anything concrete.Good solid use of weasel non committal language. Link to comment
caledonia Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 @@caledonia whats your view on how the SNP govt have not dealt with sectarianism and bigotry. Constantly turning a blind eye most likely as its not a vote winner or play to the anti-Tory voters. Not saying its anything different from previous regimes but I expected better.Think you should be more concerned about bigotry in your own party https://indyref2.scot/ruth-racism-and-bigotry-now-bbc-scotland-has-questions-to-answer 1 Link to comment
shut up meg Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Think you should be more concerned about bigotry in your own party https://indyref2.scot/ruth-racism-and-bigotry-now-bbc-scotland-has-questions-to-answer Are you standing for parliament caledonia?Deflected like a true pro. 1 Link to comment
caledonia Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 In what way was it a lie? It's a fairly bland and innocuous statement that doesn't offer anything concrete.Good solid use of weasel non committal language.I am sure even you can find that https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/470291/Alistair-Darling-in-fresh-warning-about-defence-jobs-after-Scottish-independence/amp Just use google to see this was a lie 1 Link to comment
caledonia Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 Labour voter me but just avoid the question. Tartan Tories your lotRemind me which party along with the tories voted for austerity. which party is running a so called campaign to stop zero hours contracts but voted against stopping them in wales 7 times All you get from labour is soundbites and Willie Young 1 Link to comment
shut up meg Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Caledonia, I voted yes, have voted SNP all my life and am also a member of the party however they have taken their eye off the ball a fair few times recently.Yes, the other parties are shit however we can't use that as an excuse to mask the failings of the present government.We need to continually to question them and ensure that they do their day jobs, if they do that well then we have the right to argue that they can run an independent country. So as Captain Caveman asked earlier, what's your opinion on how the government has dealt with sectarianism and bigotry? 1 2 Link to comment
mcdougall(4) Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Caledonia, I voted yes, have voted SNP all my life and am also a member of the party however they have taken their eye off the ball a fair few times recently.Yes, the other parties are shit however we can't use that as an excuse to mask the failings of the present government.We need to continually to question them and ensure that they do their day jobs, if they do that well then we have the right to argue that they can run an independent country. So as Captain Caveman asked earlier, what's your opinion on how the government has dealt with sectarianism and bigotry?See that is snpbad chat Link to comment
caledonia Posted January 1, 2018 Author Share Posted January 1, 2018 Actually was going to give my opinion on the questionBut thought by not answering it would show people looking in what so called ex/snp members thought the most important question while rich aristocrats from England try and deny Scotland a right to run its own affairs. 1 Link to comment
Guest milne_afc Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Reading that post is making me feel stupid. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Actually was going to give my opinion on the questionBut thought by not answering it would show people looking in what so called ex/snp members thought the most important question while rich aristocrats from England try and deny Scotland a right to run its own affairs. Great stuff Whats your thoughts on bigotry. Link to comment
caledonia Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 Do you dont have an answer as you cant bring yourself to criticise your party even when they are wrong. Very communistI dont have a party i only support independence. But maybe you could ask @@shut up meg above who is a member of the SNP what he likes about them and his views on bigotry 1 Link to comment
Guest Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I voted Yes and only vote SNP because they stand for independence. People in Scotland who vote Labour and wear it like a badge of honour are generally pretty stupid. But nothing could ever shock me more than Aberdeen and shire returning Tories in the last GE. That was insanity beyond imagination. 2 Link to comment
caledonia Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 Captain caveman says he now supports Labour but used to support SNP Would love to know what he thinks Scottish Labour do better than SNP Maybe he thinks willie young is doing a good job 2 Link to comment
Guest Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I couldn’t say what the SNP do better or worse than Labour in Scotland. And I don’t give a fuck. They - political parties - are all shit. I voted Labour for the first time ever at the last GE solely to vote against the Tories. Politics talk on a football webchatspeaksite is pretty fruitless, particularly domestic stuff for the region of the UK who never had the balls to go it alone. 1 2 Link to comment
Club5 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 Captain caveman says he now supports Labour but used to support SNP Would love to know what he thinks Scottish Labour do better than SNP Maybe he thinks willie young is doing a good job The state of these two tosspots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy0YPWsGW48 Link to comment
caledonia Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 Im still waiting on you to answer the original questionThe original topic was rich english elite aristocrats trying to influence Scotlands right to make its own choices No need to thank me Link to comment
caledonia Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 The state of these two tosspots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy0YPWsGW48The unionists have not made any comment on that their agenda is to try and change subject to snp bad or childish name calling is another ploy while all claiming they used to support/support/are members of the SNP Just think about this you are a member of the SNP and something big gets leaked about unionists trying to change democracy A- do you comment on itB-do you deflect and attack the snp/scot gov for something the tories are by far the worst in Scotland 1 2 Link to comment
dave_min Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 C - get on with your life. Nobody gives a shit about this sort of thing in their day to day life (See Kirsty for further clarification). 2 Link to comment
Guest Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I admire your indefatigability Caledonia but isn’t it a dead rubber just now? If the fucking idiots in the NE are voting Tory, then I can’t see any chance for independence any time soon. Link to comment
caledonia Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share Posted January 3, 2018 C - get on with your life. Nobody gives a shit about this sort of thing in their day to day life (See Kirsty for further clarification).I am sure some are interested on what is happening in their country just as much as they are interested in threads about running Anyway if people are not interested they dont have to read/post simples 1 Link to comment
dave_min Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I am sure some are interested on what is happening in their country just as much as they are interested in threads about running Anyway if people are not interested they dont have to read/post simples No. I am correct. Do not reply again. 2 Link to comment
Redforever86 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 No. I am correct. Do not reply again.DYA Hun. 1 Link to comment
fatjim Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Ever noticed why 90% of the letters in P&J and other Scottish papers are always SNPbad or anti independence despite nearly a 50/50 split Well here is the answerhttps://wingsoverscotland.com/the-green-ink-gang/ Dont buy papers any more but do have a quick look while over at my sons and batshit jill is in P&J every other day despite living in Edinburgh Strange you say you don't read newspapers but a few years back were constantly saying that things must be true because they are in newspapers. Glad to see you have wised up that that simply isn't the case. Link to comment
caledonia Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 Strange you say you don't read newspapers but a few years back were constantly saying that things must be true because they are in newspapers. Glad to see you have wised up that that simply isn't the case.Agree used to believe the papers and BBC but thanks to you and others i now don't That is why its important to let others see they are lying as well 2 Link to comment
fatjim Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Agree used to believe the papers and BBC but thanks to you and others i now don't That is why its important to let others see they are lying as well You're welcome. As Captain Caveman says though I wouldn't be so trusting of bloggers as well. Everyone has an agenda and it's always a good idea to filter any information. Disbelieve everything is my default position. You may agree with the agenda but it is healthy to be sceptical until things are corroborated with evidence. Someone's opinion isn't evidence. Link to comment
dave_min Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Someone's opinion isn't evidence.Prove it. 1 Link to comment
caledonia Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 Shows the level if you believed newspapers. Youve got wings now everything is true on there and not biased at all. Whats your views on bigotry CaleyThanks for bumping the topic i knew when i posted i could rely on tories like you to keep it at the top for everyone on holiday to read 1 1 Link to comment
mcdougall(4) Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 This is all kinds of brilliant Check out @KieranAndrewsSPs Tweet: 1 1 Link to comment
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