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#1 OFFLINE   daytripping

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 05:33 AM

I was always led to believe admin here would never give up IP numbers and the server was US based, now Cheese has been pulled up and arrested can we take it that was bollocks??

 

I spent years of my life involved in a internet defamation case, it set legal presedence for stuff like this, my advice is tell anyone interested to fuck off, costs many thousands to get it to the court stage, even then needs to be the top courts, in my case the old bailey in London, I won easily. It cost me a first class stamp, he was near 50 grand.

 

The case is all over the internet but it's boring, just wanted to say if anyone ever gets bothered by this kind of stuff just PM me.


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 05:48 AM

I was always led to believe admin here would never give up IP numbers and the server was US based, now Cheese has been pulled up and arrested can we take it that was bollocks??

 

I spent years of my life involved in a internet defamation case, it set legal presedence for stuff like this, my advice is tell anyone interested to fuck off, costs many thousands to get it to the court stage, even then needs to be the top courts, in my case the old bailey in London, I won easily. It cost me a first class stamp, he was near 50 grand.

 

The case is all over the internet but it's boring, just wanted to say if anyone ever gets bothered by this kind of stuff just PM me.

Could you provide some links to this?

 

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 09:31 AM

Send the mods a link so they can see the case. Shocking that pipes got pulled,
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Posted 11 February 2018 - 10:20 AM

Wait so whats happened now?
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#5 OFFLINE   BrianFaePerth

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 12:10 PM

Wait so whats happened now?


The Feds led cheesepipes off in cuffs.
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Posted 11 February 2018 - 12:45 PM

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#7 OFFLINE   daytripping

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 01:13 PM

Link to the case I was involved in, the judgement was about 50 pages long, this is the short version.

 

http://johnhemming.b...-and-libel.html


Edited by daytripping, 11 February 2018 - 01:26 PM.

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 02:39 PM

No way

Someone off here got arrested for something said on here?!
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Posted 11 February 2018 - 08:53 PM

No way

Someone off here got arrested for something said on here?!

 

Im skeptical, but then saw this news story from last year, featuring posts and screen shots from on here (the bold Tup features prominently):

 

https://www.thescott...orum-club-1872/


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Posted 11 February 2018 - 09:04 PM

Link to the case I was involved in, the judgement was about 50 pages long, this is the short version.
 
http://johnhemming.b...-and-libel.html



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Posted 11 February 2018 - 09:22 PM

I'm going to assume this is shite but against my better judgement, fits happened?
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Posted 11 February 2018 - 10:57 PM

Nigel

 

Nigel Smith is the biggest wanker known to man, has a restraining order stopping him taking people to court, did it as a hobby, was unemployed and thought he was a QC.

 

In the case the judge said online defamation was akin to vulgar abuse in a pub conversation.

 

 

 But a few recent cases suggest that things may be starting to shift a bit. Some judges seem receptive to an argument that readers of some online postings won’t take them seriously. This has been described as the “ALL-CAPS” defence to defamation.

For example, Eady J commented that bulletin board postings were “often uninhibited, casual and ill-thought-out; those who participate know this and expect a certain amount of repartee or ‘give and take.’”  He said that some inflammatory comments might be taken as mere vulgar abuse and therefore not taken by reasonable readers as intended to be accurate (Smith v ADVFN Plc [2008] EWHC 1797 QB).
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Posted 11 February 2018 - 10:58 PM

I'm going to assume this is shite but against my better judgement, fits happened?

 

A couple people off here have had the police at their door for comments posted.


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 09:43 AM

A couple people off here have had the police at their door for comments posted.


Isn't that old news or have the five-o been doing another round of chapping?
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Posted 12 February 2018 - 09:58 AM

Isn't that old news or have the five-o been doing another round of chapping?



Another round


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Posted 12 February 2018 - 11:12 AM

Jesus wept. This lot are worse than the tims for taking offence. What a horrendous life they must lead. No voting wanks.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:26 PM

I can tellyou for a fact that IP addresses are being obtained
I am being very careful what I post on here now.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:32 PM

Did you get frogmarched to the cells as well Eric?

What's the link between posting shite on here and obtaining an IP address?

Is it straightforward for cops to identify folk quite easily.

Well clearly it is.....as Dayts said I thought there was somewhat of a security blanket of servers being US based.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:12 PM

I was told they tracked me down with an email account linked to me. Still don't GAF
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:21 PM

Did you get frogmarched to the cells as well Eric?
What's the link between posting shite on here and obtaining an IP address?
Is it straightforward for cops to identify folk quite easily.
Well clearly it is.....as Dayts said I thought there was somewhat of a security blanket of servers being US based.


Nae sure if @Bebo and co can refuse if the @rozzers ask them for an IP and the email address used to register the account. Fail to see anything illegal that has been said on here though.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:50 PM

I can tellyou for a fact that IP addresses are being obtained
I am being very careful what I post on here now.

 

Straight from Gary Caldwell was it?


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:57 PM

Nae sure if @Bebo and co can refuse if the @rozzers ask them for an IP and the email address used to register the account. Fail to see anything illegal that has been said on here though.

 

Nothing illegal

 

Just jokes


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:57 PM

If Officer Dibble tells Bebo he needs an IP address for some allegedly heinous written statement on this site, my understanding is then Bebo has no choice but to hand it over.

 

But, an IP address doesn't tell them who the alleged culprit is.  The IP address will belong to an ISP (Internet Service Provider), my understanding is then the feds need some sort of warrant to then ask the ISP who their customer was using that IP address.  Based on that, they show up lights blazing and haul off the accused.

 

Email addresses are meaningless.  They can be tied in to mobile numbers, but mobile numbers don't have to have an owner (well they do in this country, but that's a different story).


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:01 PM

So if I log onto my VPN in Russia I can post ah the abuse I want despite Bebo having my email address?

 

Theoretical question. 


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:04 PM

Havent the @police got anything better to do than sit and read football forums all day?(while at work, may I add)

Shouldnt they be out catching real/high profile criminals?(like Frankie Boyle)

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 05:07 PM

If Officer Dibble tells Bebo he needs an IP address for some allegedly heinous written statement on this site, my understanding is then Bebo has no choice but to hand it over.

 

If that's the case, he can just hand one over from where a hatter has been logged in abroad or whatever.

 

I, par example, must have 100s of different IP addresses I've logged in from all over the place.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 06:44 PM

If Officer Dibble tells Bebo he needs an IP address for some allegedly heinous written statement on this site, my understanding is then Bebo has no choice but to hand it over.

 

But, an IP address doesn't tell them who the alleged culprit is.  The IP address will belong to an ISP (Internet Service Provider), my understanding is then the feds need some sort of warrant to then ask the ISP who their customer was using that IP address.  Based on that, they show up lights blazing and haul off the accused.

 

Email addresses are meaningless.  They can be tied in to mobile numbers, but mobile numbers don't have to have an owner (well they do in this country, but that's a different story).

 

That still does not tell them who was using the said computer for instance might be shared between 5 people who all log on under the same isp

 

did boofon not say he had the police at his door as well


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 06:54 PM

That's true to a certain extent.

If the IP was in use by an office for example the IT geeks would then be able to trace it back to a particular computer. Even then it's not proof the owner of said computer actually did it.

If however it is traced back to a household, then blaming the wife, bairns or dug won't help matters.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 07:00 PM

What was the actual complaint?
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 07:04 PM

That's true to a certain extent.
If the IP was in use by an office for example the IT geeks would then be able to trace it back to a particular computer. Even then it's not proof the owner of said computer actually did it.
If however it is traced back to a household, then blaming the wife, bairns or dug won't help matters.


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