Match Thread Aberdeen 2 - 1 St Mirren

[Dynamo]

21 minutes ago, RUL said:

We haven't played celtic that's true but we've also not played Hamilton or Dundee utd. 

I think playing a celtic side which will be more open will suit us better than a team sitting back. 

Watkins taking Wright position and Cosgrove up top would be my preference. We are putting in some amount of crosses at the moment. 

Think that's got to be the move, Cosgrove in, Wright out and Watkins dropping in to where Wright has been. 

I like Wright but when midfield isn't dominating like last night Wright and Hedges don't have the support they need to function well

 

[strachanmcgheegoal]

Concerned at McInnes (albeit I know he didn’t mean it literally). “Aye there’s nothing better than a last minute winner“

Em, yes there is.  2-0 after 10 minutes cruising after 20 and taking the opportunity to get game time into 5 subs in the second half!

[RUL]

24 minutes ago, Tord31 said:

I'm more hopeful going in to the celtic double header than I've been against them for a while. I think they are a bit fragile at the moment

This is definitely our time to play them. To be honest I'm thinking more about Scottish than the league. What an opportunity. 

[RUL]

9 minutes ago, Dynamo said:

Think that's got to be the move, Cosgrove in, Wright out and Watkins dropping in to where Wright has been. 

I like Wright but when midfield isn't dominating like last night Wright and Hedges don't have the support they need to function well

 

Yeah. Wright has been effective at times but if we aren't playing well he tends to be completely anonymous and squanders possession. 

[The Boofon]

2 minutes ago, RUL said:

Yeah. Wright has been effective at times but if we aren't playing well he tends to be completely anonymous and squanders possession. 

Sounds like we need Wright to be on his game otherwise we're complete shite.

Clearly our key player and needs to be first pick.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

Certainly when we’re struggling Hedges, Wright and McGinn All playing seems a bit “luxurious”
 

didn’t see last night but based on recent performances Hedges seems the standout to remain.  Who covers Kennedy’s RWB position?  Hedges?

[aberdeen1970]

5 minutes ago, RUL said:

This is definitely our time to play them. To be honest I'm thinking more about Scottish than the league. What an opportunity. 

We need to step up this time.  All too often we've went on a run and threatened to compete then disappointed  when we come up against them. We need to have belief in ourselves and not play against the shirt like we've done all too often. 

[aberdeen1970]

2 minutes ago, strachanmcgheegoal said:

Certainly when we’re struggling Hedges, Wright and McGinn All playing seems a bit “luxurious”
 

didn’t see last night but based on recent performances Hedges seems the standout to remain.  Who covers Kennedy’s RWB position?  Hedges?

Aye Hedges has gone in there. Mainly because it's too big a shift for McGinn and he clearly doesn't trust Hernandez to play there. 

When McLennan came on Hedges went back into the 2 behind Watkins. 

 

[WesthillWanderersFC]

35 minutes ago, RUL said:

This is definitely our time to play them. To be honest I'm thinking more about Scottish than the league. What an opportunity. 

Do you think McInnes has the guts to play a semi final against the Tims with Kennedy as a right wing back, & play both of Hedges & Wright?

I have my doubts.

His natural instinct is to play a bit safer.

 

[strachanmcgheegoal]

See Sporting for details.  See Sporting for outcome.

[aberdeen1970]

5 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

Do you think McInnes has the guts to play a semi final against the Tims with Kennedy as a right wing back, & play both of Hedges & Wright?

I have my doubts.

His natural instinct is to play a bit safer.

 

No. 

But he needs to.  They are trying out a new formation too and look vulnerable at the back.  

[WesthillWanderersFC]

11 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said:

No. 

But he needs to.  They are trying out a new formation too and look vulnerable at the back.  

Completely agree but history tells us he’ll be cautious & someone (probably Wright) will be dropped for a McGeouch or a Logan .

Thats what happened in Lisbon

[aberdeen1970]

17 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said:

Completely agree but history tells us he’ll be cautious & someone (probably Wright) will be dropped for a McGeouch or a Logan .

Thats what happened in Lisbon

Aye, I can see a 532 as well. Which is OK if you are attacking with your wing backs but if you're sitting back there's a massive gap to your front two who are relatively easy to mark. 

 

At the end of the day 532 was developed as a defensive system to counteract against a 442

[afc1903mad]

7 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

75% of the available points in a 38 game season is 85.5 points so I only used 85 points to show that we have overachieved in terms of how the next 30 games are going to go. That's the opinion of an optimistic realist. Draws are what kills the points average, being only 33.3%. 5 wins and 3 draws is the same 75% and that's a big ask, avoiding defeat in 8 games just as winning 6 out of 8 is pretty damn good. 

Ah, I get your twist on going downhill.

so you predict we’ll pick up a lower percentage of points gained, based on who we still have to play.

If we were to predict based on bookies favorites, we’d end up with 24 points out of the first round of 11 games, which is still pretty good in the grand scheme.

I can accept your premise of an anticipated lower percentile points, but I still expect that league position will improve.

were more likely to move up to third than go down to fifth

 

[aberdeen1970]

There's a big gap developing between the top four and the rest who are fairly tightly bunched 

[redstrummer]

3 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

League position just now isn't the best way of looking at it given the games in hand, 2 over Hibs and only 2 points behind being the stand-out example. Points is all that matters at the end of the day and Aberdeen are already 3rd in the percentage of points hauled.

We have also beaten hibs down there remember and looked good doing it . Continue that in the remaining games and we'll be comfortable third . Who knows maybe better.

We have got to start getting better results against the arse cheeks

[afc1903mad]

2 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

No it wasn't based on future opponents at all, simply that 75% so far owed much to the "fortuitous factor" (as MH says), McDiarmid and last night being steals. Luck doesn't always go the same way over distance and it is therefore guaranteed that it's downhill from here to the end of the season (unless anybody thinks this manager and squad are capable of 86 points or more).

I agree the St Johnstone result was lucky, but I took it given the disruption we had at the time..

‘Last night was not luck for me, we deserved  the win. Indeed I could argue that we were u lucky not to go ahead in the first 15 minutes. St Mirren rode their luck then.

It would have been a completely different game had we went in front early doors

[afc1903mad]

Just now, rocket_scientist said:

I despair. It's not possible to finish second this season. It's not going to happen. That's optimism running rampant over realism and truth being sacrificed in the process. Maybe you need to watch a lot of football over a lot of time to be able to see the obvious. 

It’s highly unlikely we’ll split the cheeks, but not impossible.

both are in the groups stages of Europe and history shows that league points can be dropped around those games.

The difference this year is their 10iar situation which will focus them more acutely on both sides of the crevice

[Poodler]

Should be McGinns last game for this club 

 

he can leave with Ojo and India Taylor 

get the old sign up at the front door 

[afc1903mad]

3 minutes ago, rocket_scientist said:

Whether it was lucky or not, it's downhill from here. We are not hitting 86+ points so appreciate that's it's been overachieving so far @ 75%. 

Statistically, you’ll probably be right, but definitely because it’s based on who we have played and who would be remaining.

weve played 1 cheek in those 8 games (12.5%),  whilst the remaining 30 games  we will have to play them 7 times (23.3%)

do again, I suspect we will not achieve 86 points, but we will improve our league position, 

[RAZOR]

16 minutes ago, Millertime said:

Mcginn is fucking done 

As is considine 

Have to agree with McGinn. Good impact/squad player. Back to looking completely uninterested and unfit. Send him back to Korea for a few months.

[Betty Swallicks]

Aye McGinn is no use starting. Fine off the bench still imo.

Considine is no better or worse than he has ever been. Can't lose pace you never had. He does a job at centre half or left of a 3.

[afc1903mad]

Just now, rocket_scientist said:

So 7 hours later, you finally see my point;

It took less time to get you to understand what over/under 2.5 goals meant!

Lol, what a tube.

Decent sleep though

[Betty Swallicks]

Ferguson and McRorie struggled a bit last night I thought especially 20-70 mins.

Just a blip hopefully as they're a young midfield partnership but they'll face better midfields than st mirrens.

[Tord31]

2 hours ago, muttonhumper said:

 

Was 85 points also the target you set in a thread and monitored / updated a few seasons back Tord?

85 sounds familiar.

 

As for the game, it was a frustrating watch, but I obviously found some solace in the late winner given the unusually substantial Yassssss which I barked out.

Very good finish by Watkins. Nice to see him get a couple of goals, given we were all sort of praising his general play / movement, but somewhat bemoaning his zero strike rate.

Relief to get the 3 points. 

^^^ Stating obvious.

Yea back in the day.

70 points, then 80 points, then 85 points.

Those were the days.

Getting near 80 points total would have us in the title hunt post split which would be fantastic

[afc1903mad]

8 minutes ago, Betty Swallicks said:

Ferguson and McRorie struggled a bit last night I thought especially 20-70 mins.

Just a blip hopefully as they're a young midfield partnership but they'll face better midfields than st mirrens.

They weren’t as physically dominant, St Mirren was set up well in that regard.

I thought they still had good games though

[Chewie37]

9 hours ago, rocket_scientist said:

Perfect example of the value of simplicity right there.

You nailed it in 8 words ??

Jings, I was only winding Boofon up, but thanks ?

[The Boofon]

9 hours ago, afc1903mad said:

Ach you right, the result doesn’t matter.

just less than 3 goals or more than 2

 

9 hours ago, rocket_scientist said:

Perfect example of the value of simplicity right there.

You nailed it in 8 words ??

 

5 minutes ago, Chewie37 said:

Jings, I was only winding Boofon up, but thanks ?

Were you? Where?

[The Boofon]

9 hours ago, rocket_scientist said:

But we can do it in six words;

More or less than 2.5 goals

2.5 is three words.

[AllyDon]

Mcinnes post match said "we were relentless with our work the last 15, 20 minutes". 

That's part of the issue for me. How about sending the team out to play like that from the starting of games rather than the last 15, 20 minutes. I know we can't play like that for 90 minutes but it might slow down my graying hair!!

Did enjoy some of our passing play last night. Much better side when we keep the ball on the deck.