Saturday's Kid Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 It's not just internationals. You want to go to theirs for cup finals or semis? They can fuck off with that. Won't happen anyway, Hampden will be kept.If Hampden is no longer available then the "principle" of neutral venues for semi finals should be scrapped. Let the games be played on the ground of whoever is first out in the draw.I wouldn't see much difference between playing at Parkhead or Ibrox rather than Hampden and would welcome the chance to play a semi-final on our own ground. I don't suppose the decision makers would see it that way. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Queen's Park have called out Regan RE the costs of remaining at Hampden. I smell a rat in all of this. Good chance Ibrox will become the new national stadium methinks under the guise of being the most "cost effective" bid. Link to comment
tup Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Queen's Park have called out Regan RE the costs of remaining at Hampden. I smell a rat in all of this. Good chance Ibrox will become the new national stadium methinks under the guise of being the most "cost effective" bid.This is absolutely the plan. The SFA need watching like hawk for hun chicanery. Rumour is that the huns have approached both the SFA and the SPFL in the last two weeks for potential crisis funding because of cashflow difficulties related to the payment of wages. Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Hadnt really thought about it until now. Why the fuck are we travelling to Rugby park at the same time as a Celtic Motherwell final. Is that not a bit silly? A/. Im aware its for tele B/. Im aware its because we got papped out of said final C/. I have no desire to watch said final but if I can commandeer the remote I probably will. In a virtually vacant Saturday it just seems a bit stupid. Probably more huncuntery to save Tup typing it. Link to comment
Reliablesource Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 ^^Seems that virtually every game we play in Glasgow or the surrounding area is a lunchtime or midweek kick off. Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Yes but did lunchtime Saturday not make more sense? Or even 3pm with both arse cheeks sitting idle today. Link to comment
Reliablesource Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Don't think sense comes into it unfortunately. Barring cup finals, sunday 3:00pm is EPL time. Link to comment
BWG Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 SFA have said they're definitely not telling lies about Hampden. That settles that then. Link to comment
Guest Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 From Ernie Walker through the runt poof hun Farry to the guffy cunt today, the organisation is a shambles cos the heid honcho is and always has bin a wrong un. Link to comment
RUL Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I see celtic and rangers colts playing in league 2 next season. Link to comment
boboisared Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I see celtic and rangers colts playing in league 2 next season.We didn't want to follow suit, allegedly. Link to comment
NEM Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I see celtic and rangers colts playing in league 2 next season. Gads Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I see celtic and rangers colts playing in league 2 next season. Confirmed? Hows that going to work? Increase the size of the league? Link to comment
RUL Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Confirmed? Hows that going to work? Increase the size of the league? Yeah, there's a huge statement on Berwick Rangers page, posted it below but whilst it's not confirmed it all but is at the same time if that makes sense: Colt Teams: Berwick Rangers FC has been asked to consider a proposal to admit two ‘Colt’ teams into Ladbrokes League Two for a two year pilot project, commencing next season. The concept has been put forward by representatives of Rangers and Celtic, and we understand that other Premier League clubs are supportive of the proposal, as are the SFA. It is intended that the pilot project would run alongside other proposals for league reconstruction, a new reserve league, and changes to the system of loans. The case for the introduction of the Colt teams is primarily illustrated by the drop-off in performance of the Scottish national team from comparative success at U16, U17 and U19 levels, to poor performance at U21 and above. Several other European countries such as Germany, Spain, Holland and Norway have employed Colt systems to good effect.The pilot proposal would affect League Two clubs as follows: League Structure: Two Colt teams (Rangers and Celtic) added to create a 12 team league, with a preferred option of three games against each opponent, making a 33 game season. Promotion/Relegation: It is proposed that Colt teams would not be promoted or relegated, and their final league position would be discounted from play-off positions with the place allocated to the next eligible League Two team. Venue: It has been suggested that the Colt teams would play all their fixtures away from home. Squad: Colt teams would have a distinct squad of predominantly U21 players with no movement between Colts and First Team permitted outside transfer windows. Management: Colt teams would have an identifiable Manager and backroom staff separate to those of the First Team. Finance: The Colt parent clubs would purchase 250 ground admissions for ‘away’ support for each game, with the tickets being distributed through their own allocation systems. Admissions on match day would be entirely to the benefit of the home club. It is likely that the proposal will be considered by the SPFL later this Spring, and will need a substantial majority of the 42 clubs to vote in favour. The Board of Berwick Rangers has discussed the proposal and would make the following comments: League Structure: It is clear that many fans would welcome a change from the current ten team division, and seeing the same opposition on at least four occasions. The Board would welcome any discussions to review and alter the current structure. Promotion/Relegation: It is a concern on the grounds of sporting integrity that at the start of a season, some teams are not competing for the same rewards as others. However, we would accept that Colt teams are likely to be comprised of young players aspiring to extended professional contracts or promotion to their First Team squad, and as such, would prove effective opposition regardless of their league position. Venue: The suggestion that Colt teams play all games away from home would see BRFC having one or two more home games each season, and a minimum of four less away games. This is an important consideration in increasing revenue from home fixtures, including hospitality and sponsorship, and decreasing travel costs to away fixtures. We also note that facing Colt opposition on six occasions at Shielfield is not such an attractive option for fans. Squad: The proposal to ring-fence Colt squads to U21 with the addition of possibly two specific older players or player-coaches is acceptable. Management: The proposal of an identifiable Management structure for Colt teams is welcome. It has also been suggested that at least two Directors of the parent club will be present at all games. Finance: The proposal to guarantee 250 admissions for each game is an important consideration for Berwick Rangers. This alone would increase gate admissions by £15,000, over 50% of our current budgeted figure. When put in the context of recent seasons, where the Club has declared losses of £81,000 and £89,000, and another substantial loss likely for 2017/18, the Directors must look to the financial security of the Club outwith the rewards associated with a Scottish Cup run. As it stands, League Two attracts only 2% of the cumulative wealth of the Scottish game, and in future we must hope for a restructure of financial distribution, as well as league reconstruction.The Board would welcome constructive comment and opinion from supporters of the Club, particularly through the medium of e-mail, letter and Facebook. Link to comment
RUL Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 We didn't want to follow suit, allegedly. Or couldn't afford the bribes? Why don't we put a team in the Highland League or is that full to capacity? It would have similar benefits on crowds I would have thought and saved travelling to berwick etc? Link to comment
Edinburgh_dandy Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Last email from the SSC had the following regarding the use of Hampden: "The Scottish FA Board are considering all options for the possible hosting of international and Scottish Cup matches under our jurisdiction after the lease expires in 2020. A period of consultation with key stakeholders has been ongoing and discussions have taken place with Celtic, Rangers, Scottish Rugby and Queens Park" So expect it to be already decided on leaving Hampden, with the SRU and Queens Park given a crap deal to pretend they tried alternatives to the OF grounds. Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Or couldn't afford the bribes? Why don't we put a team in the Highland League or is that full to capacity? It would have similar benefits on crowds I would have thought and saved travelling to berwick etc? Fort William could fuck off. We could replace them with similar standard from out under 12's. Link to comment
dave_min Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Claggan Park is a fine footballing arena. Link to comment
Betty Swallicks Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Claggan Park is a fine footballing arena. Sees plenty of goals anyway.Minus 98 goal difference after 18 games.Why bother? Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Small point of distinction. The no relegation/promotion rule is only for the two year pilot. And on a wider note. Would a club - elgin are a good example as they've been play-off or thereabouts for at least three years now - want the chance to play the following in their last couple of games: 1/ a fellow playoff contendor 2/ a team at the bottom desperately trying to avoid the playoff/pyramid spot (nod to Brora effectively chucking it here to further complicate matters) 3/ being visited by a team of billy big baws thinking because they arrived in a PoH bus that they're the dogs McIlvaneys Won't lie. Nervous about this one and justifiably suspicious at the route ("the club has been told that the SFA have been consulted" WTF?) and the urgency being brought to bear. Repeat my point from a few days ago. Who exactly do we think is going to be playing in these colt sides and how does that affect the direct opposition (which is their problem) and the available pool of young players in Scotland (our problem). Thin ice methinks. 1 Link to comment
mcdougall(4) Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Yeah, there's a huge statement on Berwick Rangers page, posted it below but whilst it's not confirmed it all but is at the same time if that makes sense: Colt Teams: Berwick Rangers FC has been asked to consider a proposal to admit two ‘Colt’ teams into Ladbrokes League Two for a two year pilot project, commencing next season. The concept has been put forward by representatives of Rangers and Celtic, and we understand that other Premier League clubs are supportive of the proposal, as are the SFA. It is intended that the pilot project would run alongside other proposals for league reconstruction, a new reserve league, and changes to the system of loans. The case for the introduction of the Colt teams is primarily illustrated by the drop-off in performance of the Scottish national team from comparative success at U16, U17 and U19 levels, to poor performance at U21 and above. Several other European countries such as Germany, Spain, Holland and Norway have employed Colt systems to good effect.The pilot proposal would affect League Two clubs as follows: League Structure: Two Colt teams (Rangers and Celtic) added to create a 12 team league, with a preferred option of three games against each opponent, making a 33 game season. Promotion/Relegation: It is proposed that Colt teams would not be promoted or relegated, and their final league position would be discounted from play-off positions with the place allocated to the next eligible League Two team. Venue: It has been suggested that the Colt teams would play all their fixtures away from home. Squad: Colt teams would have a distinct squad of predominantly U21 players with no movement between Colts and First Team permitted outside transfer windows. Management: Colt teams would have an identifiable Manager and backroom staff separate to those of the First Team. Finance: The Colt parent clubs would purchase 250 ground admissions for ‘away’ support for each game, with the tickets being distributed through their own allocation systems. Admissions on match day would be entirely to the benefit of the home club. It is likely that the proposal will be considered by the SPFL later this Spring, and will need a substantial majority of the 42 clubs to vote in favour. The Board of Berwick Rangers has discussed the proposal and would make the following comments: League Structure: It is clear that many fans would welcome a change from the current ten team division, and seeing the same opposition on at least four occasions. The Board would welcome any discussions to review and alter the current structure. Promotion/Relegation: It is a concern on the grounds of sporting integrity that at the start of a season, some teams are not competing for the same rewards as others. However, we would accept that Colt teams are likely to be comprised of young players aspiring to extended professional contracts or promotion to their First Team squad, and as such, would prove effective opposition regardless of their league position. Venue: The suggestion that Colt teams play all games away from home would see BRFC having one or two more home games each season, and a minimum of four less away games. This is an important consideration in increasing revenue from home fixtures, including hospitality and sponsorship, and decreasing travel costs to away fixtures. We also note that facing Colt opposition on six occasions at Shielfield is not such an attractive option for fans. Squad: The proposal to ring-fence Colt squads to U21 with the addition of possibly two specific older players or player-coaches is acceptable. Management: The proposal of an identifiable Management structure for Colt teams is welcome. It has also been suggested that at least two Directors of the parent club will be present at all games. Finance: The proposal to guarantee 250 admissions for each game is an important consideration for Berwick Rangers. This alone would increase gate admissions by £15,000, over 50% of our current budgeted figure. When put in the context of recent seasons, where the Club has declared losses of £81,000 and £89,000, and another substantial loss likely for 2017/18, the Directors must look to the financial security of the Club outwith the rewards associated with a Scottish Cup run. As it stands, League Two attracts only 2% of the cumulative wealth of the Scottish game, and in future we must hope for a restructure of financial distribution, as well as league reconstruction.The Board would welcome constructive comment and opinion from supporters of the Club, particularly through the medium of e-mail, letter and Facebook. Whilst I am against this on principle.The proposal doesn't look terrible on paper, but the administration of the playing squads will be interesting - no movement, let's see how that would be managed. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 At least they are playing all games away from home. That stops them cashing in Its a pilot though so might be a trojan horse for both home and away fixtures later Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Having said that Rangers withdrew from the under 20 league to play friendlies and Celtic struggle to fulfil their fixtures due to other commitments. Maybe 2 or at least 1 other more committed and deserving club could have been included in the pilot Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Are the old firm reserves only playing friendliest abroad? I thought it was slightly more structured than that. Whilst it doesnt affect Berwick Id be interested to know what the cheeks intention was. Does this become their reserve team or do they still have another between the colts and the 1st team playing squad? Link to comment
Chewie37 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 So if the Colts have to play away, will they play each other at Hampden? Big crowds for those matches I’d imagine and a sweetener to Queens Park for SFA using Hunbrox and Parkhead instead.... Link to comment
BWG Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Because this is only the arse cheeks this can get straight to fuck. Hope league two vote it down. Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Nice to see Berwick point out that their own fans would have no interest in watching the scum reserves 6 times a season 1 Link to comment
robbojunior Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 No need to read any of the details. If theyre proposing 2 teams only to take part, sevco and Celtic, then I am firmly opposed and urge the people who came up with this idea to go fuck themselves. 5 Link to comment
Chewie37 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Maybe they should just create a league where these Colts teams play against each other? gDont think its been tried before..... Link to comment
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